Calculation of Magic Item saves ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Calculation of Magic Item saves ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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noxioustaco
02-01-06, 11:04 AM OK I have some ambiguity to deal with (whats new right?).

When calculating saves for an item the DMG says to use 2 plus the 1/2 the caster level.

So how can the caster level of a Ring of Protection +1 be listed as CL 5 when a caster has to be 12th level to get the Forge Ring feat?
ThePrivateer
02-01-06, 01:34 PM Caster level is distinct from the level of the creater of the item. Just as how you can lower your effective caster level when making a scroll (if you only want the spell to be treated as cast at level one if you're level five, say) the default ring of protection +1 has a caster level of 5; less than the creator's, because it's cheaper to make an item with a lower caster level.
ThePrivateer
02-01-06, 01:41 PM Caster level is distinct from the level of the creater of the item. Just as how you can lower your effective caster level when making a scroll (if you only want the spell to be treated as cast at level one if you're level five, say) the default ring of protection +1 has a caster level of 5; less than the creator's, because it's cheaper to make an item with a lower caster level.
Nom
02-01-06, 04:53 PM Because many of the CL values in the DMG are wrong, especially for multi-valued items.

Look at that entry: "CL 5th ... caster must be of a level at least three times greater than the bonus of the ring". A +1 ring must be at least CL 3, a +2 ring CL 6, and so on.

The correct minimum CL for a ring of protection is the larger of bonus * 3 or 12 (Forge Ring).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
noxioustaco 02-01-06, 11:04 AM	OK I have some ambiguity to deal with (whats new right?). When calculating saves for an item the DMG says to use 2 plus the 1/2 the caster level. So how can the caster level of a Ring of Protection +1 be listed as CL 5 when a caster has to be 12th level to get the Forge Ring feat?
ThePrivateer 02-01-06, 01:34 PM	Caster level is distinct from the level of the creater of the item. Just as how you can lower your effective caster level when making a scroll (if you only want the spell to be treated as cast at level one if you're level five, say) the default ring of protection +1 has a caster level of 5; less than the creator's, because it's cheaper to make an item with a lower caster level.
ThePrivateer 02-01-06, 01:41 PM	Caster level is distinct from the level of the creater of the item. Just as how you can lower your effective caster level when making a scroll (if you only want the spell to be treated as cast at level one if you're level five, say) the default ring of protection +1 has a caster level of 5; less than the creator's, because it's cheaper to make an item with a lower caster level.
Nom 02-01-06, 04:53 PM	Because many of the CL values in the DMG are wrong, especially for multi-valued items. Look at that entry: "CL 5th ... caster must be of a level at least three times greater than the bonus of the ring". A +1 ring must be at least CL 3, a +2 ring CL 6, and so on. The correct minimum CL for a ring of protection is the larger of bonus * 3 or 12 (Forge Ring).