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Lord_Soth1106 09-15-07, 12:20 AM	OK I'm not sure how to chalange this Gnome Cleric of Wee Jas that is playing in my champaign. It is a very undead heavy adventure so that may be the reeason but I,ve even thrown 5 earth necromentals at him and he still won. He is level 8. HELP
madd0g200 09-15-07, 12:26 AM	Isn't he supposed to win? Or do you want to kill the cleric?
Eerongal 09-15-07, 12:29 AM	what does he do/why is it hard for you to challenge him/why is his build giving you trouble?
Lord_Soth1106 09-15-07, 12:43 AM	well of coarse i want him to win but he cake walks everything I try he even disrupted A litch and a Death Knight. and he has a dire bear skeleton and am amythyst dragon skeleton folowing him around from previous encounters that I cant seem to get around or through.
Eerongal 09-15-07, 12:46 AM	well of coarse i want him to win but he cake walks everything I try he even disrupted A litch and a Death Knight. and he has a dire bear skeleton and am amythyst dragon skeleton folowing him around from previous encounters that I cant seem to get around or through. Commanded A commanded undead creature is under the mental control of the evil cleric. The cleric must take a standard action to give mental orders to a commanded undead. At any one time, the cleric may command any number of undead whose total Hit Dice do not exceed his level. He may voluntarily relinquish command on any commanded undead creature or creatures in order to command new ones. Dire bear = 12 HD, and i'm sure the dragon is more than his 8, too. The max he can command is 8HD worth of undead. Also, when things become undead skeletons/zombies, they lost pretty much everything as far as special abilities go. For example, the dragon wont have his breath weapon. He cant command a dire bear for 4 more levels. And then, he can ONLY have the dire bear.
Lord_Soth1106 09-15-07, 12:50 AM	Dire bear = 12 HD, and i'm sure the dragon is more than his 8, too. The max he can command is 8HD worth of undead. Also, when things become undead skeletons/zombies, they lost pretty much everything as far as special abilities go. For example, the dragon wont have his breath weapon. He cant command a dire bear for 4 more levels. And then, he can ONLY have the dire bear. its not a rebuke its an animate dead spell.
Eerongal 09-15-07, 12:55 AM	Either way, they are still mindless undead. Zombies/skeletons are easy to get around/kill. You can use the spell hide from undead and they cant sense you in any fashion, no save. However, this ends when you attack. Also: Disentegrate. Being undead, they have 1/3 fort saves, and no con to add to it. Meaning a 12 HD undead adds a whole 4 to his fort save. Fort save is basically the weakness of undead, because they dont have con to add into it.
Lord_Soth1106 09-15-07, 12:58 AM	oh yea, I forgot about that, thx. thats what I get for trying to muscle through them.
Eerongal 09-15-07, 01:02 AM	No prob. You don't wanna go toe-to-toe with the big, beefy, undead idiot guardians. You want to outsmart them (because it's oh so easy :P). If you have to engage them in melee, be sure to bring a disruption weapon. It's only a DC14 fort save for instant death, so 50% chance for our dire bear friend, but that's for EVERY ATTACK. Gotta fail sometime :P
Lord_Soth1106 09-15-07, 01:03 AM	Good man. thx again.