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Raumz 01-27-07, 01:39 AM	Hi, Im a pretty new DM and wanted to know besides the cubic footage is there a way to tell how much a bag can hold? Like the weight, since the cubic feet will be hard to calculate in most cases. Thanks for your time.
Kobogen 01-27-07, 08:17 AM	I cant really think of any rules for how much say "a backpack" can carry. But it has come up im my games before. The fighter tryed to put one to many weapons in his pack and it spilt like a mellon in the middle of a city bazzar and not only did the weapons (some of them pricy ones) fall out. He also had a rather large amount of gold and gems that scatered and started huge roit with the poor poeple and shifty softpaws in the area. To top it all off I had the gaurds come and told the fighter they wouldnt take him to jail for all the trouble if he payed them a good bribe. The city of splenders indeed. Anyway im getting off topic. Just use rational thinking. A normal backpack cant hold 300+ lbs without being damaged. A magical bag wouldnt burst I think seeing as its another plain of being but I always say that becuase of that it can only hold its max and it simply will not let the player place anything eles into it.
CharlieRock 01-27-07, 10:36 AM	I think in 1ed. a backpack carried 250, large sacks 200, small sacks 50. I havn't seen any rule or measurement for a 3ed ruck. Edit: I just checked my Classic D&D book. A small sack holds 200, a backpack holds 400, and a large sack holds 600. Now here is the catch. These are units of coins. Whatever that is, right. But here's this: A mule's max listed encumberance is 6,000 cns (coins). So ,I guess we could do a little math and 'update' the backpack weight limit. :)
Raumz 01-27-07, 01:14 PM	Thanks for the help. If I cant do the math to bring the weights values over I'll just base it off the back pack that can hold 300 pounds or around there.
Edymnion 01-27-07, 01:46 PM	I think in 1ed. a backpack carried 250, large sacks 200, small sacks 50. I havn't seen any rule or measurement for a 3ed ruck. Edit: I just checked my Classic D&D book. A small sack holds 200, a backpack holds 400, and a large sack holds 600. Now here is the catch. These are units of coins. Whatever that is, right. But here's this: A mule's max listed encumberance is 6,000 cns (coins). So ,I guess we could do a little math and 'update' the backpack weight limit. :)3e says that there are 50 coins to the pound. Hence, the small sack holds 4 pounds, the backpack holds 8 pounds, and the large sack holds 12 pounds. The mule, on the other hand, carries 120 pounds.
wrecan 01-27-07, 07:31 PM	Ironically, the only semi-official 3.5 data for container capacities is found in the bottom of this article (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040406a) on convertinc amounts to metric.
tsuyoshikentsu 01-28-07, 01:54 AM	3e says that there are 50 coins to the pound. Hence, the small sack holds 4 pounds, the backpack holds 8 pounds, and the large sack holds 12 pounds. The mule, on the other hand, carries 120 pounds. Well, assume the weight of coins has changed since then. Thus, a mule can carry more coins. By 1CW (1E Coin Weight) a mule can carry 120 lbs. In 3.5E, a mule can carry 690 lbs max. That's a conversion factor of 5.75 to 1. By that math, a backpack can carry 46 pounds -- for an adventurer's large backpack, quite a reasonable sum. The small sack can carry 23, or 1,150 coins -- a reasonable number. A large sack can hold 69 pounds -- 3,450 coins, which makes sense for a scak larger than a backpack.
CharlieRock 01-28-07, 08:40 AM	I don't know how we did it, but we ended up with the same number. I used: 6m/690=400/X 690x400=6mX 46=X m=1,000s I would round that off to 50 (since I have been for awhile, little houserule) :) I remember toting around a lot more in my rucksack and duffle bag. I guess these are 'average' backpacks and sacks. :cool:
wrecan 01-28-07, 12:19 PM	For those who aren't bothering to look at the article I linked above, here are the offical capacities for containers: Item Empty Weight Holds or Carries Backpack 2 lb.1 1 cubic ft./60 lb.1 Barrel 30 lb. 10 cubic ft./650 lb.2 Basket 1 lb. 2 cubic ft./20 lb. Bucket 2 lb. 1 cubic ft./65 lb.3 Chest 25 lb. 2 cubic ft./200 lb. Comp. pouch 1/4 lb.1 1/8 cubic ft./2 lb. Pouch, belt 1/2 lb.1 1/5 cubic ft./10 lb.1 Sack 1/2 lb.1 1 cubic ft./60 lb.1 Saddlebags 8 lb. 5 cubic ft./250 lb. 1 When made for Medium characters. Weighs one-quarter the normal amount when made for Small characters. Weighs twice the normal amount when made for Large characters. Containers carry one-quarter the normal amount when made for Small characters. 2 A barrel filled with liquid holds about 75 gallons. 3 A bucket filled with liquid holds about 7 gallons.
CharlieRock 01-28-07, 12:24 PM	Why is there just one listing on sacks, though?:confused:
wrecan 01-28-07, 08:38 PM	Because there is only one sack in the equipment list (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/goodsAndServices.htm#adventuringGear) in the Players Handbook v.3.5. But see the first footnote for sacks for Small-sized characters.