Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rizzen_Coloana_120 06-05-05, 09:50 PM	A player in my campain, if he doesnt get his way, casts charm person... Now thats all well and good but how does one react to having this cast on them? How do they react while hes casting it. I know how they react while they are "under the influence" but what about after? If they "made" them do something they wouldnt normally do (like sleep with them or something along those lines) they would obviously be mad. But what if it was fairly harmless, would they still be mad that they cast the spell on them? (i would say yes, but i would like other opinions.)
Roreck 06-05-05, 10:00 PM	ummm could you explain why they wouldn't be angry. How would you feel if some stranger took away your freewill so they could get their way? After the spell wears off and they know what happened they would undoubtably be ****** the **** off!! and if he tried to cast it and the person succeded on their save they would also be ****** cause someone tried to control them. To prevent this from happening again salespeople and other important NPCs could have good will saves to prevent mind control. Promanant people having strong wills (ie high wisdom) is not really a streach of the imagination
Sildatorak 06-05-05, 10:37 PM	Have you ever been conned by a slick salesperson or otherwise tricked into trusting someone that didn't really deserve it? That is on par with charm person for upsetting the person you charmed.
Colmarr 06-05-05, 11:10 PM	Charm person does not make someone your slave. It simply makes them think you are their friend. In the circumstances, such creatures should only very rarely do things that would make them hate the caster. So no "Give me that +5 sword for free". At best, a shopkeeper would question the worth of such a friend. If the caster is dumb enough to stand right in front of the target and cast his spell, he deserves any ire he or she may attract. If the caster charms the target surreptitiously (in a crowd, through a window, or silenced and stilled), the target should have no reason to hate the caster, because they don't know the caster did anything to them.
fatal error 06-06-05, 01:06 AM	Its not dominate, its charm, you can't make people do things against their own will. They simply look upon the caster as a friend, so I doubt they would do much stuff that would make them really angry at said person, though I can see a few things, like the PHB's example...
Maerdash 06-06-05, 01:40 AM	I dont know about you but if some guy charmed me id go find rich Uncle Alaster the Mighty Mage of Seven Colors and tell him about the bad man. :D Seriously though no one is going to react well to this.
Fixxxer 06-06-05, 03:17 AM	So no "Give me that +5 sword for free". At best, a shopkeeper would question the worth of such a friend. Note, however, that there are many potential ways around this. PC: "Wow, is that a +5 sword?" Charmed: "Yeah, beauty, isn't she?" PC: "She sure is. Hey, would you get us some wine from the cellar?" Charmed: "Sure!" *leaves to get wine* PC: *takes +5 sword and leaves*
Rizzen_Coloana_120 06-06-05, 05:41 AM	Alright, thats what I thought. The player thinks he can get away with that kind of thing and it wont take much longer to figure out he cant. Thank ye :D
SwitchUK 06-06-05, 07:38 AM	I'd say the "charm" spell wouldn't do much to incur the ire of the target, unless it fails... in which case, the target will quite likely summon the guard, who probably have a few wizards on standby to deal with felonious mind-magic users in the marketplace. remember, if the will save is passed, the target knows that he was the target of a spell...