Casting Shrink Item on an opponents full plate armor [Archive] - Wizards Community

Casting Shrink Item on an opponents full plate armor [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Furious D 18
09-10-05, 11:35 AM Last week, the wizard in the group cast Shrink Item on the full plate armor that a city guard was wearing. I gave the item/guard a saving throw, but it/he failed. I didn't know exactly what would have happened so I just said that the armor did 1d6 points of constricting damage as it shrunk. It eventually got too small and thin and broke apart as it shrank, leaving the guard unarmored. This one spell reduced his AC by 8. Did I play this right?
Ogmug
09-10-05, 11:42 AM Since the spell description doesn't say, you can handle it pretty much anyway you want. However, i would consider handling it like enlarge person, etc.

That mean, it will shrink till it cannot shrink anymore, becoming a very snug, very uncomfortable peice of armor, and perhaps give the person wearing it a -1 t attack, and no dodge bonus due to the restrictive nature.

However, remember also that once an item strikes a hard surface, or the command word is given, it returns to normal, so if you did this, and the person got into battle, the first solid hit against his armor would break the spell and return it to normal function.
Venom of the Yuan Ti
09-10-05, 11:43 AM I would say no (and ounch the wizard for runing over 1000gp of treasure).

spells that expand you stop at resistance (or rather you make a str cheack or grow no further) so I would think that shrink item would stop when it met resistance.
Furious D 18
09-10-05, 11:49 AM Yeah, I just looked at the Rusting Grasp spell for the druid. If used on metal armor, it only reduces the AC by 1d6. That is a 4th level spell compared to Shrink Item which is 3rd. I don't like the idea of a lower level spell doing more so I may change the outcome of the spell.
Gort32
09-10-05, 01:03 PM In general, whenever a creature or object would grow or shrink in a way that the environment around it is affected, the effect fails. For example, you can't force something that is in a 5' hallway to grow large enough that it damages anything.

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Furious D 18 09-10-05, 11:35 AM	Last week, the wizard in the group cast Shrink Item on the full plate armor that a city guard was wearing. I gave the item/guard a saving throw, but it/he failed. I didn't know exactly what would have happened so I just said that the armor did 1d6 points of constricting damage as it shrunk. It eventually got too small and thin and broke apart as it shrank, leaving the guard unarmored. This one spell reduced his AC by 8. Did I play this right?
Ogmug 09-10-05, 11:42 AM	Since the spell description doesn't say, you can handle it pretty much anyway you want. However, i would consider handling it like enlarge person, etc. That mean, it will shrink till it cannot shrink anymore, becoming a very snug, very uncomfortable peice of armor, and perhaps give the person wearing it a -1 t attack, and no dodge bonus due to the restrictive nature. However, remember also that once an item strikes a hard surface, or the command word is given, it returns to normal, so if you did this, and the person got into battle, the first solid hit against his armor would break the spell and return it to normal function.
Venom of the Yuan Ti 09-10-05, 11:43 AM	I would say no (and ounch the wizard for runing over 1000gp of treasure). spells that expand you stop at resistance (or rather you make a str cheack or grow no further) so I would think that shrink item would stop when it met resistance.
Furious D 18 09-10-05, 11:49 AM	Yeah, I just looked at the Rusting Grasp spell for the druid. If used on metal armor, it only reduces the AC by 1d6. That is a 4th level spell compared to Shrink Item which is 3rd. I don't like the idea of a lower level spell doing more so I may change the outcome of the spell.
Gort32 09-10-05, 01:03 PM	In general, whenever a creature or object would grow or shrink in a way that the environment around it is affected, the effect fails. For example, you can't force something that is in a 5' hallway to grow large enough that it damages anything.