Character INT VS players INT [Archive] - Wizards Community

Character INT VS players INT [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Craiggers
09-20-04, 11:23 PM I am playing in a campain where a few of the other players a bit slow... but one of them is playing a Wizard with high int and wis... now, you are supposed to be trying to stay in character during the game... but what about when the player doesnt have the same int or wis the character is supposed to have? in certain situations, the character might be smart (or wise) enough to figure it out when the player is sitting around the table scrratching his ass... the only possible ways around this i could think of are int, wis or more spicificly, knowlage checks... anyone else have ideas?
Darrett
09-20-04, 11:40 PM Int or Wis checks, Knowledge Checks where applicable.

If the player doesn't think of something, just make them do a roll for it.
Bloodtide_the_Red
09-21-04, 12:11 AM This is always tricky. One thing you can do is make things easyer for them. Make any riddles, puzzles and mysteries very easy. You can go the 'kid show' route, and make things very easy(oh, this red key must go to that red door). Or you can go the more 'teen' route. This is where you basicaly give away too many clues and hints. This is where the NPC's say stuff by mistake, for example.
A bit more advanced--
For high intelligence--give him lots of details, including lots of information. Don't say wood staff, say oak staff
For high Wisdom-do the 'feelings and voice in their head', so if they come across something that they should catch, let them know.
It works nicely to give them a aid. A magical speaking item or animal to bring up things and bounce ideas off of.

For realy realy advanced, go for the 'Alternete Reality' idea. This is where the character sees and hears things that don't realy happen in the game. Example-When asking someone if they did a murder...
PC-'Did you kill Gorlp?"
NPC-'No, of course not......I would have burned the body if I did'
Pc-'What?'
NPC-"I said no of course not'
PC-"Yea but after that you said.......'
Npc-'I said nothing else'
Npc2-'He answered no, of course not'
Player to DM-'Did I hear the burn body part or not'
DM-'yes'

BT
hitorijun
09-21-04, 02:19 AM I had a similiar problem once but it was reversed. The player was acting really smart and the character only had an INT of 8 or 9. I told him that if he could not act in character (and obviously you can't raise your own INT to match your Characters-your problem) then he would have to make another character with a higher INT, that way he can act as he would. He couldn't bring himself down to the stupidity level of his character nd finally made a new one. If your guy is to stupid to properly play a high INT character suggest to him that it would be better for him and the group that he play something with a lower INT, say a half-orc barbarian or something of that nature.
allenchan
09-21-04, 02:22 AM This is the same reason Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Bluff are skills as well, so anybody can play a 20+ Cha PC without being able such a people person. Some people say its better to RP, which I dont disagree, but not everyone can.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Craiggers 09-20-04, 11:23 PM	I am playing in a campain where a few of the other players a bit slow... but one of them is playing a Wizard with high int and wis... now, you are supposed to be trying to stay in character during the game... but what about when the player doesnt have the same int or wis the character is supposed to have? in certain situations, the character might be smart (or wise) enough to figure it out when the player is sitting around the table scrratching his ass... the only possible ways around this i could think of are int, wis or more spicificly, knowlage checks... anyone else have ideas?
Darrett 09-20-04, 11:40 PM	Int or Wis checks, Knowledge Checks where applicable. If the player doesn't think of something, just make them do a roll for it.
Bloodtide_the_Red 09-21-04, 12:11 AM	This is always tricky. One thing you can do is make things easyer for them. Make any riddles, puzzles and mysteries very easy. You can go the 'kid show' route, and make things very easy(oh, this red key must go to that red door). Or you can go the more 'teen' route. This is where you basicaly give away too many clues and hints. This is where the NPC's say stuff by mistake, for example. A bit more advanced-- For high intelligence--give him lots of details, including lots of information. Don't say wood staff, say oak staff For high Wisdom-do the 'feelings and voice in their head', so if they come across something that they should catch, let them know. It works nicely to give them a aid. A magical speaking item or animal to bring up things and bounce ideas off of. For realy realy advanced, go for the 'Alternete Reality' idea. This is where the character sees and hears things that don't realy happen in the game. Example-When asking someone if they did a murder... PC-'Did you kill Gorlp?" NPC-'No, of course not......I would have burned the body if I did' Pc-'What?' NPC-"I said no of course not' PC-"Yea but after that you said.......' Npc-'I said nothing else' Npc2-'He answered no, of course not' Player to DM-'Did I hear the burn body part or not' DM-'yes' BT
hitorijun 09-21-04, 02:19 AM	I had a similiar problem once but it was reversed. The player was acting really smart and the character only had an INT of 8 or 9. I told him that if he could not act in character (and obviously you can't raise your own INT to match your Characters-your problem) then he would have to make another character with a higher INT, that way he can act as he would. He couldn't bring himself down to the stupidity level of his character nd finally made a new one. If your guy is to stupid to properly play a high INT character suggest to him that it would be better for him and the group that he play something with a lower INT, say a half-orc barbarian or something of that nature.
allenchan 09-21-04, 02:22 AM	This is the same reason Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Bluff are skills as well, so anybody can play a 20+ Cha PC without being able such a people person. Some people say its better to RP, which I dont disagree, but not everyone can.