CHaracter wanting to make alchemy [Archive] - Wizards Community

CHaracter wanting to make alchemy [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DraconicSpectre
11-05-04, 04:14 PM a Character in my campaign wants to be able to infuse potions and oils with his cleric spells. He is a lvl 11 Cleric and wants to infuse spells such as Cure Medium Wounds and Heal Spells. How would he go about doing that?

-Thanks
DraconicSpectre
symons
11-05-04, 04:17 PM brew potions it a feat in the player hand book.
Mordmorgan the Mad
11-05-04, 04:26 PM Check out the following:
BREW POTION [ITEM CREATION]
Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd.
Benefit: You can create a potion of any 3rd-level or lower spell that you know and that targets one or more creatures. Brewing a potion takes one day. When you create a potion, you set the caster level, which must be sufficient to cast the spell in question and no higher than your own level. The base price of a potion is its spell level x its caster level x 50 gp. To brew a potion, you must spend 1/25 of this base price in XP and use up raw materials costing one half this base price.
When you create a potion, you make any choices that you would normally make when casting the spell. Whoever drinks the potion is the target of the spell.
Any potion that stores a spell with a costly material component or an XP cost also carries a commensurate cost. In addition to the costs derived from the base price, you must expend the material component or pay the XP when creating the potion.
trapspringer
11-05-04, 04:28 PM You can't duplicate the effects of a spell with alchemy, this is specifically forbidden. The above poster hit it dead on.
Antigone
11-05-04, 05:58 PM The only way I know of that you can get a potion of a spell above 3d level (according to the RAW, that is) is through the Master Alchemist PrC from Magic of Faerun. Of course, that's also assuming you use FR and PrCs. And they didn't update it in PGtF -- don't know whether that means they nixed it or thought it didn't need to be updated. Maybe they'll update it in Complete Arcana?

But whatever you do, I wouldn't let them mimic that PrC with the alchemy skill, even though the class is called Master Alchemist. As trapspringer pointed out, that's a no go.
Lordofthebean
11-05-04, 08:33 PM The ability to produce potions above 3rd level is extremely powerful, and should be left to the master alchemist. As Antigone pointed out, it was not reprinted. I don't really think it needs updating (besides the skills).

The Craft (Alchemy) skill is exclusively for making alchemical items like sunrods and poisons, not potions.
Bloodtide_the_Red
11-06-04, 05:30 AM He has this option. Take the feat-Craft Wondrous Item. Then he is free to make any oil or 'potion' of any spell level he wishes. He could make an Elixir of Heal, for example.

BT
Antigone
11-06-04, 01:03 PM He has this option. Take the feat-Craft Wondrous Item. Then he is free to make any oil or 'potion' of any spell level he wishes. He could make an Elixir of Heal, for example.

BT

I disagree. While I can't find anything in the rules that says you can't do this, I think the implication of having one feat that allows you to make potions of up to 3d level and another feat that allows you to enchant items like carpets and clothing pretty clear. I'll even go so far as to say allowing a PC to use Craft Wondrous Item to circumvent the level restriction on Brew Potion would be an inappropriate house rule. Please note that I mean no offense, I just disagree. Strongly.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DraconicSpectre 11-05-04, 04:14 PM	a Character in my campaign wants to be able to infuse potions and oils with his cleric spells. He is a lvl 11 Cleric and wants to infuse spells such as Cure Medium Wounds and Heal Spells. How would he go about doing that? -Thanks DraconicSpectre
symons 11-05-04, 04:17 PM	brew potions it a feat in the player hand book.
Mordmorgan the Mad 11-05-04, 04:26 PM	Check out the following: BREW POTION [ITEM CREATION] Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd. Benefit: You can create a potion of any 3rd-level or lower spell that you know and that targets one or more creatures. Brewing a potion takes one day. When you create a potion, you set the caster level, which must be sufficient to cast the spell in question and no higher than your own level. The base price of a potion is its spell level x its caster level x 50 gp. To brew a potion, you must spend 1/25 of this base price in XP and use up raw materials costing one half this base price. When you create a potion, you make any choices that you would normally make when casting the spell. Whoever drinks the potion is the target of the spell. Any potion that stores a spell with a costly material component or an XP cost also carries a commensurate cost. In addition to the costs derived from the base price, you must expend the material component or pay the XP when creating the potion.
trapspringer 11-05-04, 04:28 PM	You can't duplicate the effects of a spell with alchemy, this is specifically forbidden. The above poster hit it dead on.
Antigone 11-05-04, 05:58 PM	The only way I know of that you can get a potion of a spell above 3d level (according to the RAW, that is) is through the Master Alchemist PrC from Magic of Faerun. Of course, that's also assuming you use FR and PrCs. And they didn't update it in PGtF -- don't know whether that means they nixed it or thought it didn't need to be updated. Maybe they'll update it in Complete Arcana? But whatever you do, I wouldn't let them mimic that PrC with the alchemy skill, even though the class is called Master Alchemist. As trapspringer pointed out, that's a no go.
Lordofthebean 11-05-04, 08:33 PM	The ability to produce potions above 3rd level is extremely powerful, and should be left to the master alchemist. As Antigone pointed out, it was not reprinted. I don't really think it needs updating (besides the skills). The Craft (Alchemy) skill is exclusively for making alchemical items like sunrods and poisons, not potions.
Bloodtide_the_Red 11-06-04, 05:30 AM	He has this option. Take the feat-Craft Wondrous Item. Then he is free to make any oil or 'potion' of any spell level he wishes. He could make an Elixir of Heal, for example. BT
Antigone 11-06-04, 01:03 PM	He has this option. Take the feat-Craft Wondrous Item. Then he is free to make any oil or 'potion' of any spell level he wishes. He could make an Elixir of Heal, for example. BT I disagree. While I can't find anything in the rules that says you can't do this, I think the implication of having one feat that allows you to make potions of up to 3d level and another feat that allows you to enchant items like carpets and clothing pretty clear. I'll even go so far as to say allowing a PC to use Craft Wondrous Item to circumvent the level restriction on Brew Potion would be an inappropriate house rule. Please note that I mean no offense, I just disagree. Strongly.