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DemonsOfRazgriz

04-05-05, 06:39 PM
What are the consequences when one of your stats reaches zero for example strength or charisma. We were battling a half-orc with two scimitars one dealt con damage the other strength and my Dm firmly beleives if one of your stats hits zero you are dead. I know there was a thread called 0 Dexterity but I can't find it. I already lost a few charachters because of it.
Master_of_Flames

04-05-05, 06:43 PM
0 strength, as stated in the phb, is instant death.
Arrowhen

04-05-05, 06:49 PM
0 strength, as stated in the phb, is instant death.
Nope; you may be thinking of Constitution.

According to the SRD:


A character with Strength 0 falls to the ground and is helpless. A character with Dexterity 0 is paralyzed. A character with Constitution 0 is dead. A character with Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma 0 is unconscious.
The Equalizer

04-05-05, 07:11 PM
Yeah 0 constitution means instant death. 0 Strength means that you are unable to move, helpless.
You shouldn't be dying from 0 ability scores unless you reach 0 constitution. You can be Coup de graced though, because you are helpless whenever you reach 0 in any other ability score.
LordArcheron

04-05-05, 08:12 PM
I image the situation how a character behaves if it's INT, CHA or WIS is 0.
What is the different?
INT 0: The Person is jumping like a really insane foolish fool around?
He should get then an foolish deflection bonus to his AC. lol
Edymnion

04-05-05, 08:43 PM
If Con=0, you're dead.
If Str=0, you're a limp ragdoll on the ground, but alive.
If Dex=0, you're stiff as a board, but alive.
If Int=0, you're in a coma, but you're alive.
If Wis=0, you're unconcious, but alive.
If Cha=0, you're completely and utterly out of it, but you're alive.

Only Con=0 will kill you, because it governs hitpoints, and Con 0 effectively means a negative infinity modifier to your hitpoints.

Only exception is when you're strength drained by a wraith (or a wright, or a shadow, or one of those things, whichever one it is that does it), and raise as a new wraith (or whatever) a couple rounds later.
Unidentified

04-05-05, 08:47 PM
Okay...
Strength 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He lies helpless on the ground.
Dexterity 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He stands motionless, rigid, and helpless.
Constitution 0 means that the character is dead.
Intelligence 0 means that the character cannot think and is unconscious in a coma-like stupor, helpless.
Wisdom 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a deep sleep filled with nightmares.
Charisma 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a catatonic, coma-like stupor, helpless.
Phrennzy

04-06-05, 10:01 AM
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Keenath

04-06-05, 11:21 AM
Only Con=0 will kill you, because it governs hitpoints, and Con 0 effectively means a negative infinity modifier to your hitpoints.
Actually, that's correct, but for the wrong reason. The rules specifically say that 0 Con means death, but they also say that you always have 1 HP per HD, no matter how hugely negative your con modifier is. Specifically, "If a character’s Constitution score drops, then he loses 1 hit point per Hit Die for every point by which his Constitution modifier drops. A hit point score can’t be reduced by Constitution damage or drain to less than 1 hit point per Hit Die."

So a wizard who rolled 2 on every hit die and 10 CON would have 22 HP at 10th level (the two extra are from 1st level, where you get a full die). If he got CON drained to 1, which is a -5 modifier, he would theoretically have 22-50 = -28 HP, and he's dead. But the rule cancels that, and you actually have 10 HP, one per hit die.

Conversely, a fighter who had 10 CON but rolled maximum on every die would have 100 HP. If he got drained to 1 CON, he still has 50 HP -- but then, just like the wizard, if he loses one more point of CON, he dies instantly.