1001 Character That No Sane DM Would Allow [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kearif

02-15-07, 02:56 PM
I'm looking for characters that you won't even tell your DM about, because you already know that there is no way in any reality that he'd/she'd let you play it. I'll be submitting mine slowly through out the thread so everybody else can set the tempo.

Don't forget to number and please no 17a, 17b, ...

All characters must be legally buildable in D&D 3.5. Max level is 20. All races, classes, prestige classes, and alignments are allowed.

Here's my first one

Oaenbaer "Twisted Tree" Gnome Druid 20 NG

This aged Gnome has a problem, he keeps calling squirral animal companions and then he awakens them. As a result he has many intellgent squirral followers, one of each character class.
Some_call_me_Tim

02-15-07, 03:21 PM
2. Anyone who gets character ideas from a thread titled: "1001 Character That No Sane DM Would Allow."
Pangeon

02-15-07, 03:24 PM
3. Pun-Pun.

(Hah! I said it first!)
Ryusage

02-15-07, 03:53 PM
3. Pun-Pun.

(Hah! I said it first!)

Ooh... Beat me to it...:D
Far_Traveler

02-15-07, 04:11 PM
4. Hulking Hurler
Fatalis_902

02-15-07, 04:22 PM
3. Pun-Pun.

(Hah! I said it first!)

DARN IT, PANGEON! I was gonna say that. Oh well...

5. Nup-nup.

(So THERE!)
snakeman830

02-15-07, 04:25 PM
6. Balor
and, if you were talking class levels and not HD
7. Balor scorcerer10/fighter10
Thanqol

02-15-07, 09:00 PM
7. Balor scorcerer10/fighter10

That's actually fairly terrible, optimization-wise. He's epic level and casts spells as a 10th level sorcerer?
Keiichi_m

02-15-07, 10:17 PM
8. Githzerai Monk with a VoP
"What!? I can't hear you over your 54 AC!"
Siduakal

02-15-07, 10:45 PM
9. Wizard with Tarasque Familiar
Melpomene

02-15-07, 11:04 PM
10.) Brain inna Jar.
rice830

02-15-07, 11:10 PM
VoP Monk in a no/ low magic world.

Me! Haha!


...I win.
johnkretzer

02-16-07, 12:59 AM
11: A CE Frenzied Berserker who is in it just for the kill.
Cold Napalm

02-16-07, 01:05 AM
12) Planar shepherd...
MeklorIlavator

02-16-07, 01:53 AM
13)Master Specialist(abj)/initiate of the 7fold viel
Callista

02-16-07, 02:19 AM
14. CG Drow ranger.
bhu

02-16-07, 03:52 AM
15) Naked human barbarian wielding a dead squirrel
Boraxe

02-16-07, 10:53 AM
16) A dual scimiatr wielding good-aligned drow ranger who is most certainly not based on Drizzt in any way.

17) Anything based on an anime character. Ever. Period.
snakeman830

02-16-07, 11:04 AM
That's actually fairly terrible, optimization-wise. He's epic level and casts spells as a 10th level sorcerer?
Don't forget Balor's have some nice spell-like abilities of their own, a couple of which are 5th level spells (telekinesis), not castable until 10th level anyway, so that's not a big deal. Except that it isn't limeted on the majority of it's spell-like abilities. When it quickens telekinesis, it's mimicking at least a 17th level scorcerer. Plus, he trades in some spellcasting ability for quadruple the skill points , double the B.A.B, and two more good saves. Throw in the unique abilities and you've got a very formidable opponent.

If you think this is a bad idea, then switch out the scorcerer levels for fighter or vice-versa and wah-lah, it is good.
ZiggZagg

02-16-07, 11:20 AM
18. Kobold Bard
Ok sing your inspire confidence
"Chirp, creak, insert other annoying sounds from a little crocodile dragon wanna-be"
Sajek

02-16-07, 11:43 AM
19. "I want to make my character blind."
BAM! Said it first!
tankschmidt

02-16-07, 12:06 PM
18. Kobold Bard
Ok sing your inspire confidence
"Chirp, creak, insert other annoying sounds from a little crocodile dragon wanna-be"

"Hey, Boss!! Doom, doom, doom..."
roninwolf109

02-16-07, 05:52 PM
20. A Paladin with VoP. (Well, okay my DM has more or less banned VoP after my Paladin. The funny part was I wasn't even TRYING to break the character. I think my lowest save was like a 18 at 12th level)
Kearif

02-16-07, 05:56 PM
This is not just a optimizing thread, it is also for insanely wierd characters. You lot are doiong great with the optimizing but lets have some real fun, okay. Also, i'm seeing lot of Character CONCEPTS but no CHARACTERS, Make them characters, give them names, races, alignments, and some depth! If you're having trouble remembering that here's a template.

And What the :devil: is Pun-Pun!?

name race class level alignment
depth, story, personality, background, info and all those other thing that make a character a character!
Fatalis_902

02-16-07, 06:17 PM
Pun-Pun is a theoretical exercise in optimization. He is the most powerful character ever, currently a level 1 human ardent, I believe.
Elsydeon

02-16-07, 07:22 PM
A monk with no arms.

...

My DM's just not quite sane. Nor is my group. Hehe, I make a normal PC, they make at least one cripple.
Siduakal

02-16-07, 07:34 PM
22. A War Troll Barbarian named 'Thud' who wields a great club, walks around with a flower collection (Y'know, closed into books), reads "See Spot Run" books to try to learn to read, is afraid of the dark, and has a little blind girl he takes care of. (This was a char I played.. he was insanely powerful, but I roleplayed him as a very nice and completely oblivious character.. He once got bit by this really nasty Undead creature that was slimy and such... He bit it back.)
TwiddleStootch

02-16-07, 07:36 PM
23) The Half-Giant Half-Dragon Half-Celestial with the Major Demon Bloodline :D

Or, better yet!
24) A Half-Dragon Balor who changed alignment with a Atonement spell and then became a Half-Celestial :D
And I believe he would have 3 pair of wings :p
snakeman830

02-16-07, 08:47 PM
And What the :devil: is Pun-Pun!?

Pun-Pun is the impossibly strong (yet still legal) Kobold Divine Minion 1/Wizard 1/ master of many forms 3. I'd give you a link to the massively long description, but I don't have the adress.

In short, he can literally pick up a mountian and beat you over the head with it from five miles away if he likes.

and TwiddleStootch, perhaps you need a refresher that half-celestial is INHERITED.

Okay, how's this:
25: Xill Fighter/Dervish wielding four longswords of speed named Greivous, an ex-general in the Xill military because he "went soft" and is now trying to regain his version of honor. I will tell you right now that this guy is a living buzzsaw and yes, I have played him.
YamiSouru

02-16-07, 09:23 PM
pun-pun is ecl 13 charactor thatwhile being completely legal has limitless statsd and can hit you with a melee strike from wherever in the planes he so desires. also he uses a good deal of psionics to achieve this i beleive.

Anyway as for what i myself would not allow.

anything with a +3 lvl modifier or more. but thats because i feel sorry for players with that few hp.
snakeman830

02-16-07, 09:35 PM
pun-pun is ecl 13 charactor thatwhile being completely legal has limitless statsd and can hit you with a melee strike from wherever in the planes he so desires. also he uses a good deal of psionics to achieve this i beleive.


Essentia investments for the unlimited reach and speed (using the special features of Dusklings and Umbral Disciples from Magic of Incarnum that he gains access to through his MOMF level).
Maekrix_Waere

02-16-07, 09:36 PM
25: Xill Fighter/Dervish wielding four longswords of speed named Greivous, an ex-general in the Xill military because he "went soft" and is now trying to regain his version of honor. I will tell you right now that this guy is a living buzzsaw and yes, I have played him.

I am going out on a limb here and guessing that you tried to emulate General Grevious from Ep. III. Just a little FYI, that would be a LE Iron Half-Golem from MMII. Also, he would have the following feats-Exotic Weapon Proficiency(Bastard Sword), Monkey Grip (Bastard Sword), Oversized Multiweapon Fighting, and Multiweapon Fighting. Translated-He would be quad-wielding large sized bastard swords (2d8 each) and would take penalties as if they were all light weapons. I like the idea of making them all bastard swords of speed...at BAB +11, with good stats and appropriate feats, that would be 16 attacks.

Back on topic:

26:Any Frenzied Berzerker at all. It's simply not fair to the other players. How would you feel if you always had to run every time your buddy goes "RAWR!"?
snakeman830

02-16-07, 09:49 PM
I've only got a few books at my disposal (PHB, MM, DMG, CA, Drac). But I like how you think here. And you are guessing correctly. Which book is Monkey grip in anyway?
Oh yeah, you think he's good with BAB of +11, wait until he hits +20 and gains P.M.W.F. (20 attacks, all doing 2D8 damage) Oh yeah, make sure he has weapon focus and specilization feats for Bastard swords as well as Improved critical. If you want to lose the speed quality (dropping his total attack number down by 4), give him a necklace of antimagic field. He makes little chunks out of magic-reliant foes.
Just one question, did you forget DERVISH LEVELS? (yes, they are in the original post) No penalties from fighting with more than one light weapon.

Note: this will make a great boss for campaigns if anyone wants to borrow the idea.

27. Drathir
Dark halfling rouge7/shadowsmith 4.
With the only item boosting her hide and move silently checks is her shadowsilk leather armor (it's not even enhanced at all) and without activating the shadowsmith class feature, her hide modifier is 33 and move silently is 28. Add in the HIPS and she is difficult at best to find. My next thing to do with her is to actually get some items that boost these even further (even if it is just Gloves of Dex)
In any case, I drive my DM nuts as the enemies try to figure out where those incredibly painful bolts keep coming from.
Maekrix_Waere

02-16-07, 10:02 PM
27. Drathir
Dark halfling rouge7/shadowsmith 4.
With the only item boosting her hide and move silently checks is her shadowsilk leather armor (it's not even enhanced at all) and without activating the shadowsmith class feature, her hide modifier is 33 and move silently is 28. Add in the HIPS and she is difficult at best to find. My next thing to do with her is to actually get some items that boost these even further (even if it is just Gloves of Dex)
In any case, I drive my DM nuts as the enemies try to figure out where those incredibly painful bolts keep coming from.

Ring of Invisibility/Greater Invisibility, add the special qualities to your armour that increase Hide and Move Silently. Also, just gonna tell you...I once had an ECL 12 character who rolled a 102 (with armour and Ring that was a +84) on a Hide check. During that same "encounter" he rolled a 96 (after armour that was a +80) on a Move Silently check. Tell your DM to thank the entire Pantheon they don't have me as a character. Especially if they're miffed with +33 to Hide.

P.S.-I don't have rules for Dervish.
P.P.S.-I only took it up to +11 because thats the max BAB at which he gains an attack that would fit within the LA that the template would add.
snakeman830

02-16-07, 10:07 PM
When I get enough wealth, I'm going to go Amulet of Supirior Invisibility. Makes any other enhancement a moot point (except adding to hide for those foes with true seeing, but those are rare enough anyway). As is, the gretest thing is that that is without any items minus the armor. If I did get items as well as use my class ability, it would be even better.

PS, how did you get a set of armor and ring that will stck to give you a +84 bonus by ECL 12?
Maekrix_Waere

02-16-07, 10:11 PM
When I get enough wealth, I'm going to go Amulet of Supirior Invisibility. Makes any other enhancement a moot point (except adding to hide for those foes with true seeing, but those are rare enough anyway). As is, the gretest thing is that that is without any items minus the armor. If I did get items as well as use my class ability, it would be even better.

PS, how did you get a set of armor and ring that will stck to give you a +80 bonus by ECL 12?

Armour SQ was (I believe) Greater Shadow from DMG and Ring was Greater Invisibility. None of us are good at knowing which bonuses stack and which don't, so if those don't stack, thats the reason.

P.S.-Where's Superior Invisibility from?
snakeman830

02-16-07, 10:22 PM
Invisiblity grants a +40 circumstance bonus on hide when you are standing still. Greater shadow in the DMG is only a +15 comptence bonus.
A general rule of thumb is that bonuses of the same type do not stack. The exceptions are dodge bonuses, racial bonuses, most circumstance bonus, and un-named bonuses.

Supirior Invisibility is in the Complete Arcane.
9th level spell
casting time: 1 standard action
duration 1 HOUR/level

I'll make this short. It turns you invisible as greater invisibility, but it also negates sound and vibration in a 5 foot radius centered on you. Thus, someone under the effect (or standing next to someone under the effect) cannot cast spells with verbal or somatic components. It also means you make no noise whatsoever. You also do not give off a scent or heat during the effect. You are completely undetectable by anything other than blindsight (not blindsense, blindsight), touch, taste, and True Seeing. Not even tremorsense or see invisibility can see you.
Maekrix_Waere

02-16-07, 10:28 PM
Invisiblity grants a +40 circumstance bonus on hide when you are standing still. Greater shadow in the DMG is only a +15 comptence bonus.
A general rule of thumb is that bonuses of the same type do not stack. The exceptions are dodge bonuses, racial bonuses, most circumstance bonus, and un-named bonuses.

Exactly, I was a Ninja (Complete Adventurer) and after taking away those two, I only had to have a base modfier of +29. Also, FYI, my Dex bonus was such that I would have my Dex restricted by wearing padded armour. My DM said I sould apply the bonuses to clothes so long as I paid 200g for Masterwork Clothes (:P) and then added the price on top of that.

Supirior Invisibility is in the Complete Arcane.
9th level spell
casting time: 1 standard action
duration 1 HOUR/level

I'll make this short. It turns you invisible as greater invisibility, but it also negates sound and vibration in a 5 foot radius centered on you. Thus, someone under the effect (or standing next to someone under the effect) cannot cast spells with verbal or somatic components. It also means you make no noise whatsoever. You also do not give off a scent or heat during the effect. You are completely undetectable by anything other than blindsight (not blindsense, blindsight), touch, taste, and True Seeing. Not even tremorsense or see invisibility can see you.

:bigeyes: :love: :incog: Wait...:uh-huh:..."TASTE"?!?!?!?:ahem:
Pangeon

02-17-07, 12:19 AM
Skrugg!/Thogg, the Orc Barbarian with a 3 Int, 5 Wis, and 4 Cha.

I've seen it done. It was a monstrosity.
A beautiful monstrosity.
snakeman830

02-17-07, 09:39 AM
Exactly, I was a Ninja (Complete Adventurer) and after taking away those two, I only had to have a base modfier of +29. Also, FYI, my Dex bonus was such that I would have my Dex restricted by wearing padded armour. My DM said I sould apply the bonuses to clothes so long as I paid 200g for Masterwork Clothes (:P) and then added the price on top of that.
Okay, if you've got Complete Adventurer, then you have Dervish stats (That's the CA I was refering to above, not Complete Arcane)

Yep, that adds up to 84 + 1D20 on hide. Move silently is another story that I'd like to know.
BTW, armor only restricts Dex bonus to AC, not to anything else.
tharivol266

02-17-07, 10:59 AM
i want my current rogue (max ranks umd at tenth level ill take the ability to take ten in it) to buy a few sneak wands (silence, invs etc) and start robbing people blind then using that money to buy more wands that are helpful to the party in battle. once that gets going there is no sane dm who wont stop me. im glad i have an insane dm instead.

as for a link to pun-pun i have the ecl 5 one in my sig.
Jezmund

02-17-07, 11:57 AM
28. Half-dragon centaur vampire.
Warmonger856

02-17-07, 12:22 PM
29. Actual conversation when I was starting up a game:

A: I've got a character from another game, can I use it?
B: What is he?
A: He's a half-dragon.
B: What's the other half?
A: ... Displacer beast.

30. Goblin paladin. Who rides a pot-bellied pig as his mount. And uses a pointy stick as a lance. I've been wanting to run this character for years.
Siduakal

02-17-07, 04:06 PM
30. Goblin paladin. Who rides a pot-bellied pig as his mount. And uses a pointy stick as a lance. I've been wanting to run this character for years.

lol! I ran that character. He wore trash can lids as his armor. He was funny as hell to play. Made my throat sore doing the goblin voice for hours, though.
Maekrix_Waere

02-17-07, 05:09 PM
31:Any Necromancer who swears by the Libris Mortis.

I believe my record, after some XTREME loopholing, for Undead was 10 thousand HD of undead per HD of my character. I'd have to check though...
Norad3

02-17-07, 09:06 PM
I made a charcter once because i thought it would be fun to play a really small character that nobody could hit. He was a gnome and basically all he needed was a pair of rapiers and a perminant reduce person (through an item or otherwise). with those items at 20th lvl with standard point buy he had an AC of 58 while not moving agianst medium creatures and 67 while moving. It was so funny to walk into a monsters space and sneak attack them from right under them and then watch them get hit again by thier buddies who are trying to get at me.
Siduakal

02-17-07, 10:10 PM
I made a charcter once because i thought it would be fun to play a really small character that nobody could hit. He was a gnome and basically all he needed was a pair of rapiers and a perminant reduce person (through an item or otherwise). with those items at 20th lvl with standard point buy he had an AC of 58 while not moving agianst medium creatures and 67 while moving. It was so funny to walk into a monsters space and sneak attack them from right under them and then watch them get hit again by thier buddies who are trying to get at me.

That's not that bad. Using a 32 point buy and starting with 16 dex. At 20th level, with all 20 levels in Psion and a devotion of 4 Power slots, along with buying +5 Natural Armor Amulet, +6 Dex Item, and +5 Ring of Protection...

As a human: 39 AC for 20 of the 24 hours in a day (Via Inertial Armor augmented), with 2 rounds of prep he goes up to 54 AC (Precognitive Defense, last 20 mins. Force Screen, last 20 mins). With another round of prep, he gains Damage Reduction 7/- for another 20 minutes (Biofeedback, I believe).

And that's for a caster..
Norad3

02-17-07, 10:42 PM
That's not that bad. Using a 32 point buy and starting with 16 dex. At 20th level, with all 20 levels in Psion and a devotion of 4 Power slots, along with buying +5 Natural Armor Amulet, +6 Dex Item, and +5 Ring of Protection...

As a human: 39 AC for 20 of the 24 hours in a day (Via Inertial Armor augmented), with 2 rounds of prep he goes up to 54 AC (Precognitive Defense, last 20 mins. Force Screen, last 20 mins). With another round of prep, he gains Damage Reduction 7/- for another 20 minutes (Biofeedback, I believe).

And that's for a caster..

Well if you want to add magic items off the top of my head +8 bracers of armor. +6 headband of intellect, +6 gloves of dex, amulet of nat armor +5, two +5 defending rapiers, +5 ring of protection puts him up to 92 AC at all times and hits 101 when moving. yay over 100 AC makes me happy. :)
Siduakal

02-17-07, 11:35 PM
Well that char wasn't really an effort at optimization. I was just fiddling one day with augmented powers at 20 to see how effective some were long run.

Inertial Armor ends up as good as +8 Bracers of Armor (20 of 24 hours a day) - and can surpass them epic.. Without any drain on funds. So that was nice. The rest were just okay discoveries.

However, he sacrifices nothing offensively to do this. Hell, with Schism up I believe his other half of his mind could manifest all of those powers for him while he acted normally. :P
Nathreet

02-18-07, 12:23 AM
Kobold peasant 20. No splatbooks. Starting gold spent on roughly a megaton of cheddar cheese :D

Venerable gray elf expert 20 w/ maxed knowledge skills, languages, etc. Expert is another NPC class, picks any 10 class skills it wants. That plus skill boosting magic items, feats, etc. Would avoid all combat.

Derro (racial insanity, +6 charisma -6 wisdom) Paladin 2 / Monk 1 / Druid 1 / Ranger 1 / Cleric 1 / etc. 1. Cloak of resistance +5, plus a certain other 2 other magic items that give +1 to saves each. All save feats. Cloak of charisma +6. Periapt of wisdom +6. Amulet of health +6. Gloves of dexterity +6. Etc. He can't do anything but, yes, he made his save.
Suzaku455

02-18-07, 12:39 AM
#36?) A module written by gygax, when everyone is a roleplayer.
Demetri_Knighthawk

02-18-07, 02:39 AM
#37) ANY imported character from any other D20 game:
Male Wookiee: Solider-5/Martial Arts Master-5/ Force Warrior 10
Init: +4 (+4 Dex)
Defense: 35 (+15 Class, +4 Dex, +6 Natural Armor [Alchemy]) 41 With Sith
Swords,
Spd: 10
VP/WP: 212/16
Base Attack: 20/15/10/5
Attack:28/23/18/13 Or 26/26/26/26/21/21/21/21/16/11 With Multi-weapon
(DMG 3d4+3d6+STR Unarmed) Ranged: 24/19/14/9
Special Qualities: Uncanny Dodge (Dex & Flanking) Dodge Blasters (Half
Damage), Improvisation, Defensive Roll (No Damage with Reflex save equal
to damage dealt), Increased unarmed damage +3d6, Fire Breath (10m x
10m, 20d6, Reflex DC 24/Half
Saves: Fort +17, Ref +16, Will +10
Size: Medium
Force Points: 19 (LS-7d6/DS-5d6)
Dark Side Points
Rep: 6
Abilities: Str26 , Dex 18 , Con 16 , Int 18 , Wis 13 , Cha 12
Equipment: Combat gloves, +3 mastercraft, personalized +1 critical :Sith
sword, +3 mastercraft, personalized +1 critical: Homemade Ion pistol,
Personalized +6 fort DC :Blas tech DY-225 Heavy blaster pistol,
Personalized +6 fort DC: Creshaldyne Industries Barabel Microbe armor, +3
mastercraft, personalized,+1 ACP: Comlink: Sith Robe: Credit Chip:
Skills:
Astrogate +9
Balance +9
Bluff +6
Climb +15
Computer Use +9
Craft (Melee Weapons) +9
Demolitions +9
Escape Artist +9
Intimidate +14
Jump +13
Knowledge (Sith Lore) + 9
Knowledge (Tactics) +9
Listen+6
Move Silently +9
Pilot +9
Profession (Mercenary) +6
Sense Motive +6
Spot +6
Treat Injury +6
Tumble +9

Force Skills: (+6 Force Aptitude Bonus; +4 to Dark Side)
Battlemind +19
Enhance Ability +21
Force Lightning +23
Heal Self +18
Move Object +18
See Force +10
Sith Alchemy +10
Telepathy +10

Feats:
Improved Critical (Unarmed)
Martial Arts
*Advanced Martial Arts
*Defensive Martial Arts
*Improved Martial Arts
Wrruushi
Stava
*Stave Expertise
*Stava Mastery
Multi-Weapon Fighting
Improved Multi-Weapon Fighting
Sith Sword Defense
*Sith Sword Expertise
*Sith Sword Mastery
Weapon Groups (Blaster Pistols, Blaster Rifles, Heavy Weapons, Simple
Weapons, Vibro Weapons)
Armor Proficiency (Light)


Force Feats:
Force Sensitive
Alter
Sith Sorcery
Control
Sense

Speak/Read/Write: Shyriiwook
Understand/Read/Write Sith
Understand/Read/Write Basic
Understand/Read/Write huttese
Understand/Read/Write ewok
Understand/Read/Write mandolorian
Understand/Read/Write trandoshan
======================================== =
this is followed by anyone who wishes to wield a lightsaber in D&D, sword of light is NOT a lightsaber.
snakeman830

02-19-07, 04:35 PM
38. Soulfused Iron Golem Fighter
Voldar_Mecorthio

02-19-07, 07:24 PM
39. Anything with an AC above 80.
40. Anything that came from CharOp.
41. A mindless undead (yes, I had a player want to play a mindless skeleton)
42. Anything that doesn't have hands
43. Anything that even resembles a CG drow ranger who duels scimitars
44. Frienzied Berserker.
45. Anything that includes the word "lightsaber"
46. Anything that involves the BoVD or BoED
47. Anything that comes from a 3rd party book the player "forgot"
Daebereth

02-20-07, 01:30 AM
11: A CE Frenzied Berserker who is in it just for the kill.

Alas, we're going to have one of those in our party... :( which leads to:

48: The ce female vampire barb (dm's own vamp template based on masquerade and the Lifedrinker PrC) who spends blood points to regain hp. Normally, would have to feed to replenish blood points, UNTIL the dm gave her a masterwork katana that restored her blood points whenever it touched blood, ie her opponents. Infinite hp while the rest of the party retreats from battle because of low healing supply. And yes, she plans on taking the frenzied beserker prc.... much much alas. Truly proving our dm is NOT sane.
epifreak

02-20-07, 03:17 AM
49. Succubus. 'nuff said
50. I've always wanted to make a build using the beastmaster (I believe that's what it's called) PrC from Masters of the Wild to call literally thousands of squirrels as animal companions. Imagine the looks when the monster gets shredded by your vicious squirrel swarms. Bonus points if you twink the HD loophole by tacking on every template you can find that doesn't change the type past magical beast.
enderrocksonall

02-20-07, 07:27 AM
How about a gestalt ninja//warlock?
Radijs

02-20-07, 09:02 AM
Any gestalt in a non gestalt game of course.

But why is ninja/warlock gestalt so bad?
Soluphobe

02-20-07, 09:53 AM
51. Cthulhu.

Half-Illithid Changling Warlock 6, ECL 11(I believe)

Use Minor Change Shape to appear fiendish. Get a Giant Size (CA) scroll or something, use Decieve Device to hack it, then use Fell Flight. And Beguiling Influence. Result: Giant flying mind flayer with claws and blood-red eyes. That can convince you its actually a kitten (total bluff modifier should be +19 without items at least, +27 with).
ravenshrike

02-20-07, 11:21 AM
Invisiblity grants a +40 circumstance bonus on hide when you are standing still. Greater shadow in the DMG is only a +15 comptence bonus.
A general rule of thumb is that bonuses of the same type do not stack. The exceptions are dodge bonuses, racial bonuses, most circumstance bonus, and un-named bonuses.

Supirior Invisibility is in the Complete Arcane.
9th level spell
casting time: 1 standard action
duration 1 HOUR/level

I'll make this short. It turns you invisible as greater invisibility, but it also negates sound and vibration in a 5 foot radius centered on you. Thus, someone under the effect (or standing next to someone under the effect) cannot cast spells with verbal or somatic components. It also means you make no noise whatsoever. You also do not give off a scent or heat during the effect. You are completely undetectable by anything other than blindsight (not blindsense, blindsight), touch, taste, and True Seeing. Not even tremorsense or see invisibility can see you.
The sc came out with it's own version. 8th level, 1 rnd per level, and true seeing can't penetrate it. Or you could just use Mindblank, which tells true seeing to **** off. And then just use standard invisibility.
snakeman830

02-20-07, 04:08 PM
True seeing doesn't deal with the mind at all, so mind blank does nothing against it.

52. A player with a highly intelligent, animated suit of armor. (We had no idea just how powerful that could be when my DM okayed it) My winged centaur fighter's armor is an animated, intelligent set of heavy fortification ghost-touch mithril breastplate with resistance 20 fire, acid, and cold and the special purpose of defend centaurs (dimension door ability). It was interesting when he was knocked out and the armor kept fighting, throwing insults at the Titan the entire time.
AJ53

02-20-07, 04:43 PM
Awakened Housecat Monk/Reaping Mauler. 'nuff said.
Sunblast

02-20-07, 05:04 PM
54. My DM didn't seem to like the idea of a giantborn halfling master thrower. Must have something against halflings. :shifty:
snakeman830

02-20-07, 05:21 PM
55. Halfling barbarian in the same party as a giant. Giant throws halfling, halfing flys into a rage in the air. He lands and you see meat chunks flying.
ravenshrike

02-21-07, 03:06 PM
True seeing doesn't deal with the mind at all, so mind blank does nothing against it.

True Seeing
Divination

Mind Blank
Abjuration
Level: Protection 8, Sor/Wiz 8
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One creature
Duration: 24 hours
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

The subject is protected from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts. This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects. Mind blank even foils limited wish, miracle, and wish spells when they are used in such a way as to affect the subject’s mind or to gain information about it. In the case of scrying that scans an area the creature is in, such as arcane eye, the spell works but the creature simply isn’t detected. Scrying attempts that are targeted specifically at the subject do not work at all.


The way our eyes perceive light is, at it's most basic component, information gathering. Any spell that can tell miracle and wish to go **** themselves can certainly do the same to true seeing.
uncle_ducky

02-21-07, 04:52 PM
56. Human Fighter with the Sacred Vow, Vow of Poverty, Legendary Trait: STR

all stat points put into STR, all fighter based feats on improving his dual light mace wielding ability. Weapon Master feats. at 20th level he ould have somewhere around 5 automatic critical hits.
Maekrix_Waere

02-21-07, 11:55 PM
The way our eyes perceive light is, at it's most basic component, information gathering. Any spell that can tell miracle and wish to go **** themselves can certainly do the same to true seeing.

So true...
Khadmus

02-22-07, 08:43 AM
57) Blind, mute human covered in bandages who dual-wields 2 punching daggers and is in his "venerable" stage.
RadicalTaoist

02-22-07, 01:29 PM
For reference, the latest version of Pun-Pun is actually a 1st level commoner of any race that doesn't get a penalty to Int.
Voldar_Mecorthio

02-22-07, 02:20 PM
For reference, the latest version of Pun-Pun is actually a 1st level commoner of any race that doesn't get a penalty to Int.
????? please provide a link. I would like to see this for myself...
Thor_axe_impaler

02-22-07, 05:23 PM
16) A dual scimiatr wielding good-aligned drow ranger who is most certainly not based on Drizzt in any way.

17) Anything based on an anime character. Ever. Period.

Nice, I've DMed for anime fans... very annoying
TheCrawlingSpleen

02-22-07, 06:31 PM
Someone had to say it.

58.) Chuck Norris

I'd give you a backstory, but anyone who discloses Chuck Norris's backstory will inevitably die of mysterious roundhouse-kick-related injuries. ;)
Herald@Large

02-22-07, 08:46 PM
59. A kender paladin :P
Voldar_Mecorthio

02-22-07, 08:47 PM
Someone had to say it.

58.) Chuck Norris

I'd give you a backstory, but anyone who discloses Chuck Norris's backstory will inevitably die of mysterious roundhouse-kick-related injuries. ;)
Wouldn't he be a paragon human monk 30?
TheCrawlingSpleen

02-23-07, 01:30 AM
Watch out for that roundhouse kick- :monk: :gah: :nonono:

In all seriousness (or what passes for it) though: :ayyyy!:
Finfreeze

02-23-07, 04:43 AM
Um...

60) Pixie Wilder 6/Psion Uncarnate 10.

I think none of us know why, simply because nobody can find it to study.
Encard

02-23-07, 11:49 AM
Anything labeled an optimization exercise as opposed to a real character.

On the concept side, anything with "...and kill/rob/betray" the party in the description that doesn't take part in some well-designed plot point of the DM's.


A couple points on some of what's been mentioned, though...

VoP is generally suboptimal compared to what you can do without it - it just makes it a lot easier to be reasonably good, especially if combat challenges aren't too varied.

The Frenzied Berserker can be a menace to the party... but there *are* ways for the character to deal safely with his Frenzy.
Senevri

02-23-07, 01:07 PM
51. Cthulhu.

Half-Illithid Changling Warlock 6, ECL 11(I believe)

Use Minor Change Shape to appear fiendish. Get a Giant Size (CA) scroll or something, use Decieve Device to hack it, then use Fell Flight. And Beguiling Influence. Result: Giant flying mind flayer with claws and blood-red eyes. That can convince you its actually a kitten (total bluff modifier should be +19 without items at least, +27 with).

WIN!

- pun-pun thread derailer: I believe it's still best to be a psion - or a wizard - for some extra skillpoint tomfoolery - needs 24 in K:Planes before d20 die, after all.

Hmm. I don't get to play enough to have nosaneDM builds well thought out beforehand. Wild Elf Barb2/Bard2/DragonDisciple 2h-power-attacking charger?
RadicalTaoist

02-24-07, 02:53 PM
????? please provide a link. I would like to see this for myself...

Look it up in the Pun-Pun thread. The gist is you need to have a high enough Knowledge [the Planes] check to call Pazuzu. He grants you a wish, you wish for a candle of invocation. Candles of Invocation make for an easy stupid broken core-only infinite wish loop, as well as access to Gate. Gate in a Sarrukh and a creature that can PAO you into a scalykind (there are many). The rest is history.
snakeman830

02-24-07, 03:52 PM
Sorry about the Xill guy with the four swords, I meant Tempest, not Dervish My mistake.
Voldar_Mecorthio

02-24-07, 11:10 PM
Hecatoncheries (ELH) Dervish. 'nuf said.
3DJutsu

02-24-07, 11:17 PM
Alas, we're going to have one of those in our party... :( which leads to:

48: The ce female vampire barb (dm's own vamp template based on masquerade and the Lifedrinker PrC) who spends blood points to regain hp. Normally, would have to feed to replenish blood points, UNTIL the dm gave her a masterwork katana that restored her blood points whenever it touched blood, ie her opponents. Infinite hp while the rest of the party retreats from battle because of low healing supply. And yes, she plans on taking the frenzied beserker prc.... much much alas. Truly proving our dm is NOT sane.
:twitch:

Any gestalt in a non gestalt game of course.

But why is ninja/warlock gestalt so bad?

Sudden Attack + EB = PAIN!!!
Maekrix_Waere

02-25-07, 02:50 AM
Hecatoncheries (ELH) Dervish. 'nuf said.

O....M....F....G

Note-I was going to put one smily in for each attack, but I can only put in 15...here is the heart of my reply -85 smilies

:hides::weep::bigeyes::gah::twitch:
:bigeyes::gah::hides::gah::surrender
:weep::hides::bigeyes::surrender:hides:
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht

02-25-07, 03:31 AM
Hecatoncheries (ELH) Dervish. 'nuf said.

Can't get bonus attacks.
bhu

02-25-07, 04:23 AM
Pixie/Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker. Beware the invisible killa pixies! :lop:
DarkLordSigma

02-25-07, 07:36 AM
A Half-Dragon Ogre Duskblade 13 with Great Cleave and Multiattack. +18 STR, -2 DEX, +6 CON, -2 INT, -2 CHA. +9 Natural Armor. Wings so you can fly around in that Mithral Full-Plate. +26/+24/+24/+21/+16 minimum as a full-round attack, arcane imbue a Vampiric Touch to add a minimum of 6d6 damage to each attack, which is gained back as temporary hit points for an hour...
Need_A_Life

02-25-07, 08:02 AM
:lop:

Yes, the Lady of Pain

The only creature able to defeat Pun-Pun, due to stats so massive that they defy being put on paper.
V8122

02-25-07, 09:03 AM
Suprised no-one said this...

CN Nymph bard, due to the in-party insanity that is sure to follow character creation.

And on a side note, I plan on DMing a campain in which my players all start with templates of up to ECL 4 (no ghosts for me!), so far I have: All fiirst level

Half blue dragon of the Dragon totem (barbarian) CN
Half Golem (clay) Rogue CG
Half-Vampire/Necropolitan Cleric of Wee Jas N Domains: Death, Knowledge

None of these are broken, right? I plan on giving them 2nd level challenges since they don't get extra HP.
Damior

02-25-07, 01:31 PM
The psionic sandwich

anything with ether the frenzied berserker prestige class, the saint template, or being a black ethergaunt. Especially not all on the same character
AffableDoomwalker

02-25-07, 03:21 PM
Jimbul "Finder" Silentstep
NE, any race (something-long lived would be preferable, more patience)
Rogue4/Ranger6/HorizonWalker5/Assassin5

Can you say unstoppable, unavoidable, bounty hunter? This is the kind of character that makes everyone else lose interest in the game and go LARP Vampire.
snakeman830

02-25-07, 03:30 PM
Jimbul "Finder" Silentstep
NE, any race (something-long lived would be preferable, more patience)
Rogue4/Ranger6/HorizonWalker5/Assassin5

Can you say unstoppable, unavoidable, bounty hunter? This is the kind of character that makes everyone else lose interest in the game and go LARP Vampire.

add a level or two of bloodhound from Complete Adventurer
DracoPhoenix

02-25-07, 05:06 PM
No idea on number: Artificer, shortly after the player comes up to you with the components / requirements for a TARDIS like device, with supplemental heavy armament upgrades....

Also, no idea on power level, but for the gestalt submissions:
Monk // Rogue / Incarnum Totemist / Umbral deciple (3+ - hide in plain sight)
Monk // Warlock (with Hideous blow, Eldritch chain)
Incarnum Incarnate // soulknife 5 / illumine soul 5 / soulknife or bow 10

ok, those are more useful in magic deficent settings.
Thugorp

03-02-07, 03:09 AM
Okay, if you've got Complete Adventurer, then you have Dervish stats (That's the CA I was refering to above, not Complete Arcane)

Yep, that adds up to 84 + 1D20 on hide. Move silently is another story that I'd like to know.
BTW, armor only restricts Dex bonus to AC, not to anything else.

I cant seem to find the dervish in the complete adventurer can some one help me find it?
geekling

03-02-07, 04:25 AM
I cant seem to find the dervish in the complete adventurer can some one help me find it?


That'd be because it's a PrC from Complete Warrior. Not Adventurer. :D Page 25.
TwiddleStootch

03-02-07, 12:06 PM
Ahh, A Gestalt Monk20/Fighter10/Dervish10.
18 Kama Attacks attacks :D
And then make them all vorpal :D
RuckusFox

03-02-07, 12:42 PM
Psions....

"You encounter a CR level 12. What are you going to do?"

*Group babbles about plans. Psion emerges*

<...I'mma cast mind thrust!>

"'Kay...what's the save DC?"

<...There...is no save...>

All: WHAT?!
BuffaloGM

03-02-07, 01:17 PM
A high level Incantrix makes my ears bleed.
OneWinged4ngel

03-02-07, 05:08 PM
An optimized awakened sandwich. And yes, it's been done on CharOp :P
Soluphobe

03-02-07, 06:29 PM
<...I'mma cast mind thrust!>

"'Kay...what's the save DC?"

<...There...is no save...>

Aargh! A Will save negates mind thrust!

73 (I think): The CWD Lover:

Wizard 3/Whatever (Artificer?) 3 with: Scribe Scroll(B), Demon Mastery(level 1), Craft Wonderous Item(level 3), and Extract Demonic Essence(level 6) as feats.

What? He met a dretch in a dungeon? Poor DM. This guy suddenly bursts into insanity with his magical items, draining any demon he finds! Gloves that cast unlimited scorching ray and distract assailant spells*. A one-shot headband of true strike. Boots of levitation. It there is a spell of level 2 or under, this guy can cast it from his shoe, glove, belt, earring, thimble, spectacles, figurines, ANYTHING! If he finds gold, he enchants it with one-use lesser orb spells in favor of actually spending it! If the party finds a portrait, suddenly that portrait is a 50-charge magic missile machine! If this guy is a warlock or artificer, run! With a thought bottle, he is unstoppable! He has destroyed entire civilizations with magic items alone (albeit at epic levels)! And somehow, it is all RAW...

The trick with this is that it reduces the githzerai monk with +9 Dex and +6 Wis to AC 10. Ditto to the Knight in +5 full plate. Distract assailant makes him flat-footed, then a ranged touch attack negates any armor he might be wearing. This trick has caused my players to either run screaming from any kobold wearing gloves or try to used Diplomacy to take them as cohorts.
RuckusFox

03-03-07, 02:03 PM
Aargh! A Will save negates mind thrust!


*shrugs* It was the only Psion "spell" I could think of at the time. I know that there are some that don't have Will saves at all. e.o; I stand by what I said. They're cheap.
MagnaSecuris

03-03-07, 10:22 PM
:lop:

Yes, the Lady of Pain

The only creature able to defeat Pun-Pun, due to stats so massive that they defy being put on paper.

You do realize you would need a forest to put all of Pun-Pun's stats on paper. And he can change them whenever he wants.

74) Any Character with a Tragic Backstory
Because he's just going to want the campaign to be about him.
snakeman830

03-04-07, 08:30 PM
I cant seem to find the dervish in the complete adventurer can some one help me find it?

:banghead: I already sid this was supposed to be TEMPEST!!! (Which is in the Complete Adventurer).
:banghead:
Saberus

03-05-07, 03:17 AM
75. A Lich named Sidious :emp:
Ack

03-05-07, 08:06 AM
76. Any character that is created by an experienced and entirely ruthless player, when beginning a game where the GM is just starting out and has said (in all innocence) "Sure, I don't mind if you use other sourcebooks. Just bring it to me when you've finished."

77. The other character, built by the other player in the same game, in collusion with the first, so that their abilities work off each other.
tharivol266

03-05-07, 08:21 AM
:banghead: I already sid this was supposed to be TEMPEST!!! (Which is in the Complete Adventurer).
:banghead:

the best part about your frustration is how the headbangers line up
Cantankerous

03-05-07, 09:24 AM
78) Anything that has even a third order connection to anything vaguely similiar to the idiocy gotten out of the BoED (Book of Extreme Doltishness) wherein the already muddy alignment system is completely disassembled and made worse than useless... which is the best thing (yet still utterly negative) that can be said about the book.



Isshia
Ack

03-05-07, 09:28 AM
79) Anything that uses a previously innocuous capability, combined with carefully-chosen options from a poorly-thought-out splatbook, to end up with a build that can theoretically make the Tarrasque your b!tch.
baltasar_basilius

03-05-07, 09:35 AM
Artificer with vow of poverty.
Leo

03-05-07, 09:57 AM
Drider fang of loth.
Ack

03-05-07, 11:01 AM
Dwarven half earth elemental (the dwarven half being an Earth Dwarf from the hypertext SRD) with three levels of Paragon, two levels of Ranger (for the Two Weapon Fighting ability with substandard DEX), and ten levels of Horizon Walker.

Well, my GM wouldn't allow it...
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht

03-06-07, 12:13 AM
*shrugs* It was the only Psion "spell" I could think of at the time. I know that there are some that don't have Will saves at all. e.o; I stand by what I said. They're cheap.

The ones that don't require saves require attack rolls. They're far less cheap than arcane spells. Far, far less.
Dragonborn

03-06-07, 12:45 PM
The ones that don't require saves require attack rolls. They're far less cheap than arcane spells. Far, far less.

Actually, there isw at least one power with no attack roll, saving throw, or even spell resistance: Swarm of Crystals. The catch? Lousy damage.
BioEngine

03-06-07, 12:59 PM
80) Baleen Whale Anthropomorph 5 Monk / 5 Druid / 5 Warshaper / 4 Shifter.

Feats: Vow of Poverty, Extra Wild Shape, Assume Extraordinary Ability (SS), Assume Spell-like Ability (SS)

You've gotta look at the Anthro races in Savage Species, great stat modifiers.

Flurry with extra natural weapons, get a necklace of natural weapons to give all of your natural attacks weapon magic attacks.
snakeman830

03-06-07, 03:29 PM
You've gotta look at the Anthro races in Savage Species, great stat modifiers.


I must admit, I have been looking in Savge Species for these and I can't find them. Where are they?
RoamingArcher

03-08-07, 06:06 PM
Pg. 215 of Savage Species. Look for the drooling donkey holding a bone.
snakeman830

03-13-07, 02:37 PM
Found em. I was looking through the template section before.
Daydreamer

03-13-07, 03:24 PM
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=803940
Korvara_Verndari

03-13-07, 04:11 PM
Got a couple but I'll post them individually.

Not complete, I don't have the books or anything with me so this is all off the top of my head.

Goliath (LA 1) Fighter 4/ Warlock 15

Racial Exotic Weapon (Races of Stone gain access to all racial exotic weapons) Goliath Greathammer (3d6 dmg Large 2hd Hammer 60lbs)

Weapon Focus Greathammer
Weapon Spec Greathammer
Battle Caster x2 (I think that's the name, from Complete Arcana gives ability to wear next higher type of armor; ie light to medium, medium to heavy)
Power Attack
Cleave
Weapon Focus Eldritch Blast
Weapon Spec Eldritch Blast

Invocations
Darkness
Devil's Sight
Hideous Blow
Eldritch Spear

So at ECL 20 you have a weapon that does 10d6+9(str) dmg on a melee attack and 7d6 on a melee touch attack without enchantment, I think 4 attacks on a full attack action, and a critical multiplier of 3x. If you enchanted this with the maiming special ability then you would roll 1d6 to find the multiplier of every crit. I would also add the Impacting ability which changes the crit range to 19-20. power attack and you have 10d6+9(str)+10(PA) for a minimum dmg of 29 and max of 79 on a straight hit. Crit (20) min 87/max 237 non enchanted. Enchanted Crit (non-20) would be min 76/max 156, if you didn't play that the eldritch blast was treated as a crit on all weapon crit rolls. Start adding in the maiming ability and you get min(x1 multiplier) 29/max(x6multipier) 480!!!


I was in the process of playing this character before I moved from DC to Asheville and the only reason that I was allowed to play this character was because I swore I wouldn't take the Hideous Blow Invocation. As a lvl 1 Fighter I had a 22 str, 15 dex, 20 Con, 17int, 16wis, and 18 chr.

Pretty nasty.

Kor
Korvara_Verndari

03-13-07, 04:28 PM
Human Wizard 5/ Force Weaver (Path of Magic) 10/Elemental Lord (Legendary Class from Path of Magic)

couple of pre-reqs I can't remember off the top of my head but I'll list all I can think of

Feats

Enegery Substitution (pick one)
Great Fortitude
Spell Focus Envocation
DM Choice

Class Abilities

Call a +3 Holy* Ghosttouch weapon (any you have proficiency with) 3 times per day
* you chose up to a +2 enchantment to add to the weapon

Call a form of Mage armor that gives a +5 Armor bonus for several hours (can't remember duration now) once per day

+4/ die of dmg to all force spells (magic missile become 5 1d4+5 missiles)

Energy Substitution Force (Fireball becomes Force ball at 10d6+40 dmg)

Immunity to Force Effects (Wall of Force, Magic Missile, etc)

+1 Con (Power Level 1 ElemLord - +1 Con times the power level this ability is taken at)
+6 spell levels (Power Level 2 ElemLord - gain 3 spell levels times the power level this ability is taken at)
+3 Int (Power Level 3 ElemLord - +1 Int times the power level this ability is taken at)
Energy Substituion (the other four that you don't have already) (ElemLord Power Level 4 - Chose one Energy type to substitute times the power level this ability is taken at)
Energy Immunity (All 5 types) (ElemLord Power Level 5 - Chose one Energy type to be immune to times the power level this ability is taken at)

So at level 20 your immune to all energy types and force effects, you have a weapon you can call on 3x/day and armor if you need it, you can substitute any energy type including force to any spell with an energy subtype and get extra dmg with a force spell based on number of dice rolled for the dmg), Bonus to Int and Con, bonus spell levels (ie 6 1st lvl spells, 3 2nd lvl spells, 2 3rd lvl spells, 2 2nd lvl and 2 1st lvl spells, or any combination that adds up to 6).

I played this character once in a Epic game that the DM wanted to play since the Epic Handbook was out and he wanted to see how Epic Levels worked out. It was a one shot that ended early cause I dropped a quick cast globe of force (modified wall of force) on top of the BBEG and his Toady and then filled it with water and watched them drown. Game lasted about 50 minutes all told.
Demonfey

03-13-07, 04:32 PM
Look at my sig.
As for what a metal kender is, take a warforged scout, and make it think and act like its a kender, and even believe its one. You now have a metal kender, who doesn't need to eat, breathe, or sleep, meaning it never has to shut up.
Korvara_Verndari

03-13-07, 04:34 PM
Human Druid 5/ Master of Many Forms 10/ Warshaper 5

Can Wildshape 15 times a day for 15 hours each time (total of 225 hours of Wildshape each day), and can change into any creature type with the maybe one or two exceptions from tiny to Gargantuan (not Collosal), can change form multiple times without ending the duration of the wildshape s/he is using, is immune to critical hits has a +2 to Str and Con, has an increased reach by 5' (ie human with a 10' natural reach, but doesn't look like it), Wildshape as a move action (or free action if your DM isn't thinking straight, since both of the PrCs gain this ability).

Huge 12-headed Hydra anyone??

Kor
Flan

03-13-07, 05:56 PM
Anything based on comics, but Wolverine in particular. Anything based on someone with a "warrior princess" weapon like Xena or Kratos. Anything based on kid's cartoons where 10 second fights last 3 episodes and the characters constantly scream at the top of their lungs like Naruto, Yu-Gi-Oh or Dragon Ball, or where the character "has to catch them all."
Garble Willowwits

03-13-07, 10:06 PM
Hey, it's fine to base something on another character, like Wolverine or something, just make sure you play it with style.

As for anime and such, there are a lot of dramatic moments in most shows, so people are like "Hey that would be cool to do in D&D." Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

But yes, yelling out "Fireball!" as you cast it only serves to aid your opponents Dispel check.
Ubermog

03-16-07, 02:00 AM
A LeShay (ELH pg 202). They start with 2 +10 Keen Brilliant Energy Bastard Swords that weigh nothing and that they can dual wield with no penalty. They also have an AC 52 without armor and fast healing 10.
Ace_of_time

03-16-07, 04:01 AM
Kobold 11th sorc/5th fighter/ lich with the feat practiced spellcaster
Prince_of_Murder_Kinghall

03-16-07, 04:06 AM
Warlock. Next person to say "i cast eldrich blast" I am going to murder to death.
Saberus

03-17-07, 12:38 PM
Warlock. Next person to say "i cast eldrich blast" I am going to murder to death.

Anyone who "casts" eldritch blast deserves to get hurt. I currently play a warlock, I use eldritch blast.
Bonzai

03-17-07, 05:44 PM
Human Psion 5/Flayer Spawn 10/Illithid Savant 5

Technically Illegal, but flavor wise should be legal. You get all the Illithid goodies without the level adjustment, and you can now learn everything.

Dopelganger Chameleon 10

Be anybody, do anything.
Wonder_Petz

03-17-07, 09:40 PM
An old wizard named Gandalf who died in a fight to save his friends in the Fellowship of the ring but later came back as Gandalf the White.
Kobold_Avenger

03-18-07, 10:38 AM
Warcraft RPG Pitlord... Huge.. more spell like abilities than a balor. +26STR +2DEX +16CON +4INT +8WIS +6 CHA wields a Gargantuan Two Bladed sword. Regen 10 self rez once every 20 rounds. Need i go one? Plus no nosy wizards!! they spy of you with magic you come to them and dice them up.
Kearif

07-18-07, 11:30 PM
A character who is only described (even to the DM) as "You see a man sized cloud of black smoke that doesn't blow away with the wind."
Sajek

07-19-07, 02:11 PM
Warcraft RPG Pitlord... Huge.. more spell like abilities than a balor. +26STR +2DEX +16CON +4INT +8WIS +6 CHA wields a Gargantuan Two Bladed sword. Regen 10 self rez once every 20 rounds. Need i go one? Plus no nosy wizards!! they spy of you with magic you come to them and dice them up.

Where are you getting these stats?
Kobold_Avenger

07-19-07, 02:26 PM
Sajek, i'm refering to the pitlord from the Warcraft RPG Manual of Monsters. Though now that i think about it, it would be reasonble, but would have a monsterrously high LA.
RealSorceror

07-19-07, 02:32 PM
1) A Collossal+ hyper intellegnt mecha with a city of Warforged followers living inside of it. And its a god. And its an epic major artifact.

2) A nezumi wererat Druid/Vermin Lord with the abiltiy to cast Creeping Doom. The nezumi itself is a swarm. You'll get a Hivemind so big that it can fight the DM.

3) A Hellfire Warlock named "Arson the Fire Crime". You're just asking for it.

4) A Changling Binder/Chameleon. Really be anything.

And yes, all of these characters where allowed by our DM and are now some of the most popular and well-liked personas in our game world. The DM actually helped me craft number 1, thereby making one the most invicible legal player characters I've ever seen. Rat Lord has yet to battle the DM, but with a Sorceror caster level of 68 or higher (and no levels in Sorceror) he is broken beyond all reason.
Kearif

07-19-07, 09:09 PM
two things
1. (as the creator of this thread) This was suppost to be a silly thread, not a place to wine about broken prestige classes and brag about broken characters. Oh well.

2. (as a player and DM) I LIKE THE BOOK OF EXALTED DEEDS, so there :yuck:!
RealSorceror

07-20-07, 11:57 AM
two things
1. (as the creator of this thread) This was suppost to be a silly thread, not a place to wine about broken prestige classes and brag about broken characters. Oh well.

2. (as a player and DM) I LIKE THE BOOK OF EXALTED DEEDS, so there :yuck:!
1. Well I like bragging about my broken characters. Everyone should have to hear my nerdy rants. :pbbbtt:

2. Well I also like the BoED. So there.
stuporhero93

07-20-07, 12:19 PM
A Transmuter with maxed alchemy named Edward Elric. Espicially if he asks for a philosepher's stone, or a certain pair of gloves...
Blackskullgreymon

07-20-07, 06:49 PM
I love FullMetal Alchemist.

Okay, here's one -

His WoW character he bought off of eBay.
Imreallyagreatredwyrm

07-20-07, 09:22 PM
A stone giant Barbarian 10/Frenzied Berserker 10 with Monkey Grip, Brutal Throw, Str 42, a Huge +6 Adamantine Returning Throwing Greataxe, and 24 rocks.
Fanaticreasercher

07-21-07, 12:05 PM
Any gestalt in a non gestalt game of course.

But why is ninja/warlock gestalt so bad?
Any Non gestalt character in a gestalt campaign. Im in this gestalt campaign, with a changeling beguiler/telepath (me), A raptoran druid/scout, and a half elf duskblade??? She didnt want to make a new caracter after we decided to go gestalt. She really wants to be he melee person, and we tried for 2 days straight to get her to at least take the hit die of a knight, so, my friend and I decided to hide and let her get killed as soon as posible!
Kearif

07-21-07, 02:33 PM
Any character played by someone who is such a jerk that he/she and thier friend would hide and let another party member get killed as soon as posible.

What number are we on, is anyone paying attention to that?
Eridrau

07-21-07, 06:52 PM
102) A character who is incapable of feeling pain.

103) A complete fluffhead. ("Love. And. Peace!")

104) A character who has their entire premise based off of a Song, or a bad joke (The pinball brothers, anyone?)
Realms of Chaos

07-22-07, 10:31 PM
10.) Brain inna Jar.

The scary part...

I tried this with a player. :weep:

The horrifying part...

It worked! :eek: :eek:

And my creation. Half-orc binder 1/warlock 1/sorcerer 1
This requires a flaw, but it is insane, in multiple meanings of the word.
1. half-orc's base weight is set to maximum, 1500 pounds.
2. Improved binding grants access to haaganti, which multiplies weight by x1.5 (2,250 lbs.)
3. enlarge person spell multiplies weight by x8 (18,000 lbs.)
4. thanks to willing deformity and deformity (obese), you weight is multiplied by x3 (54,000 lbs)
5. warlock invocation allows unlimited spider climb.
6. KABOOOOOOM!!!!.

relax, using the actual method for multiplication, the half-orcs weight of 1,500 is actually only multiplied by x10.5 (15,750 lbs.) :D
Klamachpin

07-23-07, 09:52 AM
106) "Soldiers of Fortune" -- A series of suicidal/dumb characters whom are grossly under-optimized but have useful gear.

Step 1 - introduce character.
Step 2 - character dies as soon as possible.
Step 3 - party gets dead character's gear
Step 4 - repeat
Sanstree

09-11-07, 10:20 AM
Githzerai Half-undead-Vampire(Katane)
Holy monk
Flaws, bestial instinct & hot-blooded
Feats: magical training, sacred vow, vow of poverty
exalted, touch of golden ice, ....
Ring the golden bell is a nice feat....
Anyone say, turn undead as paladin, spider climb (EX), Charm person(), blood drain
till tenth level then
Dragon shen for 5 levels, followed by Snake shen for 5 levels

Stack everything into DEX first and weapon finesse unarmed strike
did I mention improved uncanny dodge and Improved evasion with freedom of movement or movement rate 90 with spider climb?

AC exalted + natural + deflection, + monk level + dex + Wis + inertial armor


Exalted feats....
exalted turning, exalted SR, .....
Only thing better
Gestalt the above
Holy monk/Rogue to 5th
Holy monk/Mole to 10th Burrowing (EX)
holy Monk/dragon shen to 15
holy Monk/snake shen to 20
Remula

09-11-07, 05:49 PM
19. "I want to make my character blind."
BAM! Said it first!

Hey i played a blind monk once. :) .

Though would a blind monk with two nymphs for wives with about hundred other nymphs being his children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, great great grandchildren..etc count as a bad char for a dm... well the DM provided the nymphs. :D
Count Arioch the 28th

09-11-07, 06:03 PM
A 15 year old female sorcerer that refreshes her spells only after persuing her boy on boy erotic mangas.
Goon_for_Hire

09-11-07, 06:38 PM
Human Druid 5/ Master of Many Forms 10/ Warshaper 5

Can Wildshape 15 times a day for 15 hours each time (total of 225 hours of Wildshape each day), and can change into any creature type with the maybe one or two exceptions from tiny to Gargantuan (not Collosal), can change form multiple times without ending the duration of the wildshape s/he is using, is immune to critical hits has a +2 to Str and Con, has an increased reach by 5' (ie human with a 10' natural reach, but doesn't look like it), Wildshape as a move action (or free action if your DM isn't thinking straight, since both of the PrCs gain this ability).

Huge 12-headed Hydra anyone??

Kor

Yeargh... then make it a shifter with razorclaw elite and shifter savagery, adding in a little weretouched master along the way... presto! something considers hill giants a light breakfast.
Prince_of_Murder_Kinghall

09-11-07, 08:14 PM
A wizard that casts "deus ex machina"
togapika

09-11-07, 10:22 PM
Psionic Sandwich...
ArgulFraster

09-13-07, 12:09 AM
A 15 year old female sorcerer that refreshes her spells only after persuing her boy on boy erotic mangas.

I have a friend who plays characters like that IRL. She claims to be chaotic evil and proud of it.

101) A homebrew race who recieve a proficiency in a type of homebrew bow that effectively turns them into arrow machine guns (I made 'em, Lapinians, LA+1, originally they were all about...ahem...that which rabbits are infamous for...before I decided they needed weapons. I made the Multibow, which does damage like a composite bow and allows Lapinians to act as if they had the Multishot feat, even if they don't. What's more, if they get the Multishot feat, they get to shoot MORE arrows. My friend the DM and I are trying to figure out how to fix them without ruining their flavor.)
Crash169

09-13-07, 03:54 AM
106) Druid 20.

107) Druid1/Ranger3/Beastmaster10/Druid6
This character has so many animal companions.. He'll want them to go everywhere with him, and his turns will last hours.

108) Level 1 Commoner with Skill focus: Basketweaving.