assian for dragon desiple [Archive] - Wizards Community

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prax

04-23-07, 06:35 AM
ok so this has probroly been broght up before so forgive me but i am making a monk and i was going to make him an assassin and use my arcane spells from that to get dragon desiple is this a bad idea and if so why
calronmoonflower

04-23-07, 06:50 AM
The dragon disciple doesn't give you an increased caster level, just a couple new spells.

I'd suggest an Enlightened Fist from the Complete Arcane.

Also Spellwarp Sniper from the Complete Scoundrel gives you extra damage with ray attack.
runestar

04-23-07, 06:55 AM
The concept seems cool, I admit, though I would not recommend it from a mechanics perspective, since I do not feel that assassin has any synergy with dragon disciple whatsoever.

You just end up spreading yourself out so thin that you are unable to excel in any area. You have a bit of everything - sub-par fighting capabilities, a bit of sneak attack, limited low level spellcasting, a variety of misc abilities...

I guess it is okay if you want to do it for the flavour, just bear in mind that your character will be fairly weak.:)
starfire311

04-23-07, 08:53 AM
wait a sec, this may not be too bad... we are loking at something like a monk 5/assassin 8/Dragon Disciple 7... how about monk 4/fighter 1/assassin 8/DD 7

This may not be too bad, and could be kinda cool.
You get
FoB, 2 monk bonus feats, evasion, still mind, Ki strike(magic), slow fall 20ft, monk AC/unarmed strike, +10ft speed
fighter bonus feat
SA +4D6, Death attack, Poison Use, +4 Save vs Poison, Imporved Uncanny Dodge, Hide in plain sight
+3 Natural Armor, +4 strength, +2 Con, Breath weapon 4D8, Claws and bite, Blind sense 30ft

BAB +15, Fort +13, Ref +12, Will +11

Spells/day 3/3/3/6

not a great tool box of abilties, but could be a useful 5th character.
prax

04-23-07, 04:07 PM
ok lets assume i want to take all of these up to max lvl exept for monk then wouldnt i gain some usefull abiltys now if only there was a way to let me take monk lvls agian afterwards


ps im in a campain that goes to epic lvl
RainerNader

04-25-07, 06:52 PM
If you're going Dragon Disciple, you really need to take it up to 10th level since that's where you get the bulk of the benefits.

I'd suggest taking 6 levels of monk (which is a good jumping off point for monk anyway), 1 level of assassin, 10 levels of DD, and filling out the rest with assassin levels.
Sarrazon

04-25-07, 07:54 PM
Assian=best typo EVER
AffableDoomwalker

04-26-07, 01:52 AM
:heehee

You're killing me smalls :rofl:
starfire311

04-26-07, 01:54 PM
If you're going Dragon Disciple, you really need to take it up to 10th level since that's where you get the bulk of the benefits.

I'd suggest taking 6 levels of monk (which is a good jumping off point for monk anyway), 1 level of assassin, 10 levels of DD, and filling out the rest with assassin levels.

isn't there a problem with qualifying for DD as monk 6/assassin 1
prax

04-27-07, 05:40 AM
isn't there a problem with qualifying for DD as monk 6/assassin 1
i dont see why it says u need to cast arcane spells with out preparation and the assassin can do that so whats the problem?
Wilds

04-27-07, 08:41 AM
i dont see why it says u need to cast arcane spells with out preparation and the assassin can do that so whats the problem?

doesn't it say that assassins have to prepare spells as per the way a wizard does?
starfire311

04-27-07, 09:08 AM
i dont see why it says u need to cast arcane spells with out preparation and the assassin can do that so whats the problem?

hint: knowledge (arcana)
The White Sorcerer

04-27-07, 11:19 AM
hint: knowledge (arcana)

Monks have that as a class skill, so no problem.
TwiddleStootch

04-27-07, 11:49 AM
This is actually a pretty cool idea...

I like it!

Mind if I steal it for an NPC :D

I say go for it :D
starfire311

04-27-07, 12:00 PM
Monks have that as a class skill, so no problem.

wow am I a loser, I thought they just had religion
The White Sorcerer

04-27-07, 05:37 PM
wow am I a loser, I thought they just had religion

They used to only have (arcana). (Religion) was added in the revision.
InterSilva

04-27-07, 07:27 PM
Assian=best typo EVER

Actually, I've seen a posted that contained the typo "assinators."