Base attack question! [Archive] - Wizards Community

Base attack question! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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chefcyric23
09-14-07, 09:31 AM Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider. Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0?
Eerongal
09-14-07, 10:03 AM yes, you add together your BAB from all of your classes to determine your final BAB (A 5HD outsider has 5 'levels' of outsider) and your iterative attacks increase as par the normal rate.
Tempest Stormwind
09-14-07, 10:08 AM Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider. Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0?

Yes, but not the way you think. You don't add the monk levels to the outsider, you add the base attack bonuses.

Level 5 outsider = +5 base attack, saves +4/+4/+4.
Level 1 monk = +0 base attack, saves +2/+2/+2.
You: Level 5 outsider + Level 1 monk = (5+0) base attack, saves (4+2): +5 base attack, +6/+6/+6 saves.
chefcyric23
09-14-07, 10:16 AM Thank you both, I had just miscounted the BA of the outsider. And tis what I figured would happen. Thanks again.
Some_call_me_Tim
09-14-07, 06:50 PM Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider.
Acutally, that is a 6-HD outsider with a LA of +5.
Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0?Yes, but remember a Hound Archon Monk 1 has an Effective Character Level (ECL) of 12.

BAB +6 flurry of blows (+4/+4)
Fort +7 Ref +7 Will +7

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chefcyric23 09-14-07, 09:31 AM	Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider. Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0?
Eerongal 09-14-07, 10:03 AM	yes, you add together your BAB from all of your classes to determine your final BAB (A 5HD outsider has 5 'levels' of outsider) and your iterative attacks increase as par the normal rate.
Tempest Stormwind 09-14-07, 10:08 AM	Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider. Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0? Yes, but not the way you think. You don't add the monk levels to the outsider, you add the base attack bonuses. Level 5 outsider = +5 base attack, saves +4/+4/+4. Level 1 monk = +0 base attack, saves +2/+2/+2. You: Level 5 outsider + Level 1 monk = (5+0) base attack, saves (4+2): +5 base attack, +6/+6/+6 saves.
chefcyric23 09-14-07, 10:16 AM	Thank you both, I had just miscounted the BA of the outsider. And tis what I figured would happen. Thanks again.
Some_call_me_Tim 09-14-07, 06:50 PM	Heres my thing. Im creating a hound archon monk. In MM, it states that it starts out as a lvl 5 outsider. Acutally, that is a 6-HD outsider with a LA of +5. Base attack is 6 and all three saves are 5. Does this automaticly add to the base of the monk. Say for instance, at lvl 1 monk, the base attack would be upped to 6 instead of the usual 0?Yes, but remember a Hound Archon Monk 1 has an Effective Character Level (ECL) of 12. BAB +6 flurry of blows (+4/+4) Fort +7 Ref +7 Will +7