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bhu 06-10-07, 02:08 AM	A DM I know wants to start a campaign based on the idea that you get to play whatever you've always wanted to but have always been told no. The more bizarre the better. If I want to I can be a Winged, Awakened, Anthropomorphic, Amphibious, Multiheaded Octopus. As long as whatever I come up with is somehwere around ECL 12. So I got to thinking while looking at my options that this is gonna be a hard choice :D So any thoughts on what I should try? Only rules are it has to be around ECL 12, the freakier the better.
Eshenaleros 06-10-07, 02:12 AM	well, a couple demons have about ECL 12. i know the succubus does (male would be incubus), but i'm not sure what the others like the vrock are. then there's also a troll. ah, the troll. my best buddy. they start at ECL 11. or you could have a gagroyle with a couple levels in barbarian or fighter or something, or maybe even a minotaur. if you have the savage species book, you can screw around with these already existing creatures with the feral, reptilian, or insectile templates. that's my two cents :cookie: for me!
Rerecros 06-10-07, 02:18 AM	A lich? A Mindflayer? A Beholder? Why choose? A Mindwitness Alhoon :D
Eshenaleros 06-10-07, 02:22 AM	and if you wanted something absolutly breathtakingly freakish, i suggest coming up with your own critter or template. there's nothing better than ripping some random monster's head off with a claw you created.
Majick 06-10-07, 02:40 AM	Anthropomorphic Half-Fiendish Octopus with a Iron Golem Arms (half-golem template) replacing each arm... +12 to strength for every arm... 6 arms... yeah... scary stuff :eek:
navar100 06-10-07, 03:19 AM	A 12th level human fighter. :P
bhu 06-10-07, 04:42 AM	I did suggest a Pixie/Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker and he said okay. I'm not actually gonna do it though. That would just be evil.
Kezarim 06-10-07, 07:13 AM	1)Tauric Xeph/Cheetah, Shadow Creature, Feral. ECL: 4+2+1+2=9. Add a few Levels of Monk, 1st Barbarian, and a ToB Class, and go for "tornado throw" manouver ^_^ The only reason to have much STR is so you can carry a medium sized female person. "Hey there hon. Rides are free for such a beauty. Get aboard." 2) Try an awakened Cat, make it a psion, or add levels of pyrocineticist. It doesn't have to be able to speak, just burn down things. 3) Two words: half tarrasque. 4) Awakened Winged Half-Janni Catfolk Skeleton. ECL: HD+8 Make it an Archer. Looks like an ordinary catfolk skeleton with skeletal nonfuctional wings. But with up to 32 dex. And if you ask nicely, your two "Improved Initiative" stack for "greater initiative" (+6) 5) Kobold. ^_^ Take your standard kobold, and add templates so long, until you reach ECL 13. That's a LOT of templates. (half-dragon half-fiend mineral creature feral Kobold, anyone? STR +22 ^_^)
MagicMouth 06-10-07, 07:32 AM	Half-Farspawn Goblin Dread Necromancer Get your freak on...
Ainianu 06-10-07, 07:47 AM	Weird doesnt have to be a powergamer template unless thats the game your playing :) If someone told me to make a 'wierd' character today... It would be one of these.. A woman who is pregnant (could be any class i guess) A neanderthal who was woken from a very long an unusual hibernation (Likely a strong fighter, but with limited language) A blind woman (Druid or Wizard would be most interesting i think) An escaped criminal (some combination of fighter+rogue) Id probably pick the blind woman. :)
Ryusage 06-10-07, 08:14 AM	Half-Fiend Hound Archon:D
Avatar of Kokusho 06-10-07, 08:23 AM	A rakshasa. With racial hit dice replaced with sorcerer levels.
bhu 06-10-07, 03:42 PM	Some part of me is thinking of going with an Awakened Half Celestial Monstrous Spider Favored Soul. "Doesn't anyne else have healing? Do I really have to go ask the THING?"
Pyro_Azer 06-10-07, 03:56 PM	I am not the most up to date on what monsters exist so if anyone could reccomend something based on this it would be greatly appreciated. Be something that can change its form; preferably at will. Change. A lot. For no reason other than you feel like it. Once you factor in its monster levels be levl 1 in as many classes as possible. Keep the classes unrelated (so don't make a rouge/bard/ninja.) Be C-N and be insane. Have fun.
Kezarim 06-10-07, 06:23 PM	Try playing a Marrutact from "Sandstorm". They really ARE fun.
geekling 06-10-07, 06:31 PM	A fairy - tinkerbell type rather than pixie... With a vampire template added. Whatever is left of the ECL filled up with spellthief, rogue, or bard levels. A popcan-sized little flying bloodsucker is really the only 'out there' character I've ever wanted to play. Just for the in character comments that could be made.
Doleth 06-10-07, 06:31 PM	Play the psionic sandwich, that would be awesome.
yellowdingo 06-10-07, 08:07 PM	Half Troll-Half Elf (a green 7' tall hairless elf) Necromancer (CLeric-Wizard) employed in bond to the local monarch and tasked with keeping a watch on the conduct of the party... Its not easy being the rat of the party.
Candin 06-10-07, 09:32 PM	Gelatinous cube? Or a cube that became a lich? Oh dear god.
Lykor 06-10-07, 10:41 PM	I tried to get a DM to let me run a 6 foot animated wheel of cheese.
bhu 06-11-07, 02:56 AM	Gelatinous cube? Or a cube that became a lich? Oh dear god. Black Pudding with the Ghost Template (or something close) :eek: !!
LoneStranger 06-11-07, 03:04 AM	A half-angelic, half-demonic parakeet familar for one of the spellcasters in the party.
IceFractal 06-11-07, 03:12 AM	Kobold or Goblin Ghost - you are the avenging spirit of every weak mook slain by adventurers on their way to the treasure. Fun concept, gives you a goal to start with (either flat out slay, or alternately outdo and embarass adventurers, depending on the rest of the party), and Ghost is more fun than a barrel of fiendish monkeys. For Ghost powers, Malevolence and Telekinesis are the most fun - you can juggle flaming cartwheels while possessing your foes and making them dance. Classwise, the big LA can be a problem for spellcasters, and your lack of corporeality may hinder you as a warrior. That's why I favor Rogue - sneak attack works no matter what body and attack method you're using (fun with TK), and skills are always a good thing. Bard could work too, for much the same reasons (high Bluff+possession = fun, and illusions+TK is works well).
Omnirahk, half-Rahkshi 06-11-07, 08:25 AM	I'd play an awakened ferret wizard with an orc (half-orc if you must, though troll would also be nice) improved familiar. Dress up your familiar as a wizard. Have the DM allow it to look like your familiar is casting. Or take spell-linked familiar if you must. Watch the look on your foes' faces when they think they're facing a troll wizard. Invest in a headband of intelligence for it.
Tusalu 06-11-07, 08:30 AM	Gelatinious Cube Monk :gel: :monk:
Light_Colonel 06-11-07, 08:42 AM	Neanderthal (base race - Frostburn) + Lycanthrope (Were-Deinonychus +7/ MM) + Half (*)Dragon (+3 / MM) + Lolth-Touched (+1/ MM4) + Barbarian 1 *As to Half what kind of Dragon, I would suggest Something Exotic, perhaps an Abyssal Dragon; Alternately Shadow or Fang would be good backups. Especially Fang. The templates pretty much have to go on in the order I laid out. We will call him Ned for this example. //FLUFF// Ned was descended from a line of prehistoric Neanderthals. His grandparents were infected with Lycanthropy via a Were-Deinonychus. They bred true and had a child, a true Lycanthrope, Ned's Mom. Ned's Dad was a Fang Dragon who well.. "met" Ned's mom and however those things happen in D&D, Ned was born. Prior to his birth however, minions of Lolth receiving a prophetic vision from their goddess, met with Ned's mom. They then conducted a dark and unholy ritual on Ned while still unborn. The child was Touched by the pure evil of Lolth and was born into the world an unholy killing machine dedicated to serving the Queen of the Demonweb. //CRUNCH// I can't give you actual stats right now. I can come back later crunch hardcore numbers, but it will work out *something* like this: This is of course, just stat bonuses, not actually including the base stats. ~+26STR, ~+10DEX, ~+18CON and no significant penalties (and maybe a bonus or two) to mental stats. You will have Pounce as a Racial ability, so you won't need to give up Fast Movement for it. Alternately you could take Scout and go for Skirmish damage. You would be getting Claw rake +2 claws +Bite each getting Skirmish. Also, you would have 4 racial hit dice from were-raptor, each of which is upgraded thanks to half-dragon.
RealSorceror 06-11-07, 11:39 AM	Nezumi Wererat with the Vermin Lord prc. Or better yet, an awakened rat Were-rat. You become a super-sain rat with the Hivemind ability. If you can gain the Swarm subtype somehow (and therefore gain free hivemind abilities), more power to ya. And if I may make a sugestion for your deity, Ojike-Chan the Rat Lord (Nuetral Demi-god). His domains are Vermin, Nature, and Secrets. His favored weapon is his Bite (or any natural weapon).
northern_bear 06-11-07, 11:56 AM	A DM I know wants to start a campaign based on the idea that you get to play whatever you've always wanted to but have always been told no. . . I'm jealous. This sort of happened to me once, but it backfired on both me and the DM. The DM said we could do (almost) whatever we wanted. Including using material from other D20 sources (D20 modern, D20 future). I made a ferral, half dragon, dwarf. He had wings, huge claws, and a whole bunch of mutations from D20-future, including many energy resistances. He had a bionic skeleton, and a bunch of cybernetic implants. His weapons of choice were his claws, followed closely by his death ray. I gave him a whole bunch of feats related to grappling, fighting with natural weapons, aerial combat, and aerial movement. He could use a fly by attack to hit 5 guys at once. Or he could pick up anybody who weighed less than a mack truck, fly 200 feet straight up into the air, and drop them. All in a single round. He was so super freaking awsome. It was great. The other PCs in the party chose to play: human monk, orc fighter, human rogue, human ranger. Wow. I got to play my uber character for about 4 games. Then he had to be retired because everybody else in the party was such a useless glob of flesh next to this guy that there was litterally zero semblance of party balance. So my advice to you is this: before you make your bizaro uber character, talk to the other PCs. Make sure you guys are on the same page and that your space gorrila octopus man is going to fit into the party. Both mechanically, and from an RP persepctive.
Frylord 06-11-07, 12:00 PM	Nezumi Wererat with the Vermin Lord prc. Or better yet, an awakened rat Were-rat. You become a super-sain rat with the Hivemind ability. If you can gain the Swarm subtype somehow (and therefore gain free hivemind abilities), more power to ya. And if I may make a sugestion for your deity, Ojike-Chan the Rat Lord (Nuetral Demi-god). His domains are Vermin, Nature, and Secrets. His favored weapon is his Bite (or any natural weapon). Wait, are you trying to help him make a Skaven from warhammer? Heh. I'd say a weird one would be.. Hmm... How about a human pirate with a peg leg, hook for a hand, and an eyepatch, with animate object cast on each item? (Isn't there an awaken object spell or something like that? Or is that just living creatures?) Oh, and the most sinster spell ever, a Living Spell Floating Disk!
RealSorceror 06-11-07, 12:22 PM	Wait, are you trying to help him make a Skaven from warhammer? Heh. Nope, I'm just modeling it after my player deity. Hes a rat swarm Vermin Lord, and therefore gains sorceror spellcasting ability and free feats just for having hp. After casting Creeping Doom a few times his caster level becomes completely broken and overcomes almost anything's spell resistance. :rolleyes: I'd say a weird one would be.. Hmm... How about a human pirate with a peg leg, hook for a hand, and an eyepatch, with animate object cast on each item? (Isn't there an awaken object spell or something like that? Or is that just living creatures?) For more fun with living body parts, I'd suggests the living armor and weapons from the Eberron setting. They count as creatures, so you can add templates to them, too. Oh, and the most sinster spell ever, a Living Spell Floating Disk! I forget all about living spells. Oh Gawd...........Living Mind Rape. *drools all over keyboard*
Light_Colonel 06-11-07, 02:40 PM	Clearly I have too much free time on my hands... I statted out Ned, just for humors sake: Wereraptor, Humanoid Form Medium Dragon (Shapechanger) Hit Dice: 1d6+6 plus 4d10+40 (74 hp) Initiative: +3 Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares) Armor Class: 19 (+6 natural, +4 MW chain shirt, -1 dex) touch 9, flat-footed 19 Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+13 Attack: Scythe +12 melee (2d4+15/20) or bite +12 melee (1d6+10/20) Full Attack: Scythe +12 melee (2d4+15/20[x4]) and bite +10 melee (1d6+5) Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Draining bite, skirmish (1d6) Special Qualities: Alternate form, raptor empathy, low-light vision, scent, half-dragon qualities Saves: Fort +10, Ref +5, Will +3 Abilities: Str 30, Dex 9, Con 22, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10 Skills: Jump +30, Hide +15, Listen +16, Move Silently +7, Spot +16, Survival +16 Feats: Improved Initiative, Iron Will(B), Run(B), Track(B), Multiattack Environment: Subtropical jungles Organization: Solitary Challenge Rating: 7 Treasure: Standard Alignment: Always chaotic evil Advancement: By character class Level Adjustment: +7 Wereraptor, Raptor Form Medium Dragon (Shapechanger) 1d6+6 plus 4d10+40 (74hp) +5 70 ft. (14 squares) 22 (+1 Dex, +11 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 21 +3/+17 Talons +17 melee (1d8+21) Talons +17 melee (1d8+21), 2 claws +15 melee (1d4+7) and bite +15 melee (2d4+7) 5 ft./5 ft. Curse of lycanthropy, draining bite, skirmish (1d6), pounce Alternate form, raptor empathy, damage reduction 10/silver, low-light vision, scent, half-dragon qualities Fort +14, Ref +7, Will +3 Str 38, Dex 13, Con 30, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10 Jump +46, Hide +17, Listen +16, Move Silently +9, Spot +16, Survival +16 Wereraptor, Hybrid Form Medium Dragon (Shapechanger) 1d6+6 plus 4d10+40 (74 hp) +5 40 ft. (8 squares) 22 (+1 Dex, +11 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 21 +3/+17 Scythe +17 melee (2d4+19) Scythe +17 melee (2d4+21/20[x4]) and bite +15 melee (1d6+7) 5 ft./5 ft. Curse of lycanthropy, draining bite, skirmish (1d6) Alternate form, raptor empathy, damage reduction 10/silver, low-light vision, scent, half-dragon qualities Fort +14, Ref +7, Will +3 Str 37, Dex 13, Con 30, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10 Jump +34, Hide +17, Listen +16, Move Silently +9, Spot +16, Survival +16 Thematically, I gave him a Scythe, because in raptor form he has his scything claws. Obviously, Raptor form is his usual combat form.
bhu 06-11-07, 02:43 PM	Well so far only 1 other person has made a PC for the campaign: A Thri Kreen Monk/Psychic Warrior. And one has mentioned making a Halfling Wizard :twitch: I flinch at this because he plays all of his characters as a melee tank regardless of class......
Anodai 06-11-07, 03:34 PM	Either Pun-Pun (isnt he like level 5 of something?) or the Psionic sandwich:P
RealSorceror 06-11-07, 03:52 PM	And one has mentioned making a Halfling Wizard :twitch: I flinch at this because he plays all of his characters as a melee tank regardless of class...... Let me get this straight. The DM gives you guys a free pass to play anything, anything at all, and this guy comes up with a Halfing Wizard? :uh-huh: Was he tragically born without an imagination? Please tell me that halfing has wings or tentacles or something.
bhu 06-12-07, 05:40 AM	Let me get this straight. The DM gives you guys a free pass to play anything, anything at all, and this guy comes up with a Halfing Wizard? :uh-huh: Was he tragically born without an imagination? Please tell me that halfing has wings or tentacles or something. Nope. Every character he has ever played has been a halfling since they were available in DND. He still has a halfling army for Warhamer. he says playing them is a challenge. Personally I only think the particular way he plays them is a challenge.
geekling 06-12-07, 06:32 AM	Let me get this straight. The DM gives you guys a free pass to play anything, anything at all, and this guy comes up with a Halfing Wizard? :uh-huh: Was he tragically born without an imagination? Please tell me that halfing has wings or tentacles or something. Nope, he'll be the smart guy. The one that realise that in a game like that, if you really want a unique character. One that stands out against the backdrop of 'spuchal snowflake' characters. The half-this/half-that/half-something else- never mind that it comes out as 150%, with a minimum of 4 templates added, tenticles, wings and 14 PrCs characters. Will be the just plain straight out of the PHB with no weirdo-additions one.
RealSorceror 06-12-07, 09:13 AM	Nope, he'll be the smart guy. The one that realise that in a game like that, if you really want a unique character. One that stands out against the backdrop of 'spuchal snowflake' characters. The half-this/half-that/half-something else- never mind that it comes out as 150%, with a minimum of 4 templates added, tenticles, wings and 14 PrCs characters. Will be the just plain straight out of the PHB with no weirdo-additions one. Well, I guess the party does need someone normal looking to talk to the townies....
Bob Loblaw 06-12-07, 10:26 AM	How about a pseudonatural flumph paladin/psychic warrior?
zzakk2to2 06-12-07, 11:20 AM	awakened rabbit soulknife and instead of manifesting a regular blade manifest a switchblade. have the awaken spell cast with maximize. call him Bun-bun
Johnny_Angel 06-12-07, 11:28 AM	Multi-headed Lumi Barbarian
oden131 06-12-07, 01:48 PM	i second the pixie with the vampire template
bhu 06-12-07, 03:22 PM	Well, I guess the party does need someone normal looking to talk to the townies.... Oh GOD no!!! No his characters all have the same personality: Arrogant, overconfident madmen who insult people at the drop of a hat. If we sent him into town he'd tell everyone to do as he said or he'd call his monster buddies in to wipe them out. Then instead of using spells he'd assault them with his quarter staff of..staffiness.
Bone_Yard 06-12-07, 05:02 PM	a 1/2 orc Sorcerer multi class Barbarian with a great axe
YamiSouru 06-12-07, 07:05 PM	A kobold Crusader, modeled to act as a Spartan from 300. "And the world will know that 300 Kobolds gave their last breathes to defend it!" A dwarven monk/drunken master who is also a hippy pacisfist. "all we need is love and beer!" Psionic Bounty hunter. ((race and psionic classes are your own choice here)) "I can hear what your thinking..all your doubts and fears..and if you look in my eyes in time you'll find the reason im here.." and lastly. Half troll half Kobold warlock.
RealSorceror 06-12-07, 07:56 PM	Oh GOD no!!! No his characters all have the same personality: Arrogant, overconfident madmen who insult people at the drop of a hat. If we sent him into town he'd tell everyone to do as he said or he'd call his monster buddies in to wipe them out. Then instead of using spells he'd assault them with his quarter staff of..staffiness. Righto. :eek: Better just send in the anthromorphic norwich terrier Bard.
Avatar of Kokusho 06-12-07, 08:04 PM	I was dumb enough to allow this once. I ended up with: A half giant, half minotaur monk with the Vow of Poverty feat; A pixie necromancer whose fondest wish was to become a lich; A dark elf with both the half celestial half fiendish templates...character class: barbarian; And one kobold warlock. :p
User5127 06-12-07, 10:30 PM	I forget all about living spells. Oh Gawd...........Living Mind Rape. *drools all over keyboard* More like Orgasm! haha Took me a second to come up with something outlandish, but here goes: A Winged Insectile Half-Troll Half-Vampire Draconic Incarnate Construct Furitive Filcher Necropolitain Rogue lvl 2. Total ECL 12! winged: SS p 138 Insectile SS p122 Half-Troll FF p92 Half-Vampire LM p106 Draconic RotD p74 Incarnate Construct SS p120 Furitive Filcher ECS p286 Necropolitain LM p114 The Incarnate Construct actually nets a -2LA/min 0LA... so the creature really has +11LA, but I get to minus 2. so I added 2 levels rogue. Alternatively I could use awaken contruct spell on it instead. Anyways, enjoy. I'll try to come up with something more bastardised later.
Encard 06-12-07, 10:50 PM	You know, I'd be wary of templates. Past a low LA, they usually just weaken a character terribly. For example, what was just posted has... 2 HD? It doesn't matter how great your abilities are, you still die in one hit at that level. And in that case, how are you getting Incarnate Construct - that can only be applied to constructs, and I don't see any constructs in there. How about this for an idea: a man (elf, halfling, whatever) who steals other people's life force, distills it, and lets it soak into his cigarettes (pipe tobacco, tobacco subsititue, whatever). Think of the tagline: "Some people smoke their lives away. I smoke other people's lives instead." Not certain how you'd build it mechanically, but you could probably find a way, even if it was just using Soul Eater (BoVD) and some fluff about the distilling/smoking. Alternately, I suppose there's always the anthropomorphic giant squid with the Soul Eater PrC. But that's pretty cliche.
User5127 06-12-07, 10:56 PM	Furitive filcher is a 1 HD construct from the eberron campaign setting. It is Tiny. So it really has 3HD... But I don't care about the HD part. I'm jsut amused as hell by the long name. I took me a deep breath just to read it out. And the fact that I just made an undead construct. heh... this guy is deffinatly not a frontline fighter.. He's really fast and sneaky. land speed of 50. climb 50, fly perfect 70. has an insane dex score. and (though I haven't crunched the numbers to much) a pretty retarded AC. He's also immune like crazy from being a construct and undead and can't be flanked. has fast healing. and some other nifty thingers..
bhu 06-13-07, 03:18 AM	It's too bad the Titanic template is out..... Mr DM sir, I would like to be a 4000 pound budgie. Yes, as in the songbird. I shall call him PEEEP!
zzakk2to2 06-13-07, 08:18 AM	if you have Awaken used for your character have it be maximized.
Omnirahk, half-Rahkshi 06-13-07, 09:29 AM	I just remembered a couple of good ones that have been done before. But they're still good. 1) Male drow elf paladin. In pink armor. Yes, he is gay. This one could be objectionable though. Check if it's fine. 2) Half-giant (or similar) stoneblessed dwarf focused on heavy armor. In walks what appears to be an iron golem. It takes off its head - oh wait, it's a helmet - and inside there appears to be a stone golem. Even better if you get it to be undead and allow it take off the stone head to have a flesh golem inside. Or try this: a fire element/half fire elemental minotaur. Name him Steak-Um. Or BBQ (short for Brak-Bregon Quorsnort or something).
Pangeon 06-13-07, 05:16 PM	Heh, that second one was from one of my groups... First Meeting DM: You all arrive at the castle at about the same time, coming from different directions. First, there is a massive, probably the largest any of you have ever seen, hound archon. She is clad in gleaming full plate bearing the holy symbol of Pelor, and carries a warhammer seemingly made out of pure light. Next is a... cat person, carrying a greatsword that looks as if it weighs two pounds. It looks like he could walk faster than most people run. Finally, with booming steps approaches what looks like a giant iron golem, greatsword on back. Belton: (OOC) I take off my helmet. DM:The iron golem removes what you now know as a his helmet, and inside is what looks like a... stone golem! ThiLynn: (OOC) Ooh, I bet if we take off his head we'll find a flesh golem inside, like those Russian dolls! Anyways, as for my suggestions: Insectile Goblin Winged Thri-Kreen Half-Fiend Ogre Draconic Changeling
Bone_Yard 06-13-07, 05:24 PM	a awakened spoon paladin with monkey grip wilding a fork
Encard 06-13-07, 06:12 PM	Check the Half-Ogre and Half-Minotaur templates (I believe they're in Dragon #306 or thereabout for stupidly-good +1 LA melee-oriented templates. this guy is deffinatly not a frontline fighter.. He's really fast and sneaky. land speed of 50. climb 50, fly perfect 70. has an insane dex score. and (though I haven't crunched the numbers to much) a pretty retarded AC. He's also immune like crazy from being a construct and undead and can't be flanked. has fast healing. and some other nifty thingers.. ...He'd still be dead meat at level 12. :P Keep in mind that his skills are also those of a 3 HD character, for added problems. He does have a long name, though, I'll give him that.
User5127 06-13-07, 09:06 PM	...He'd still be dead meat at level 12. :P Keep in mind that his skills are also those of a 3 HD character, for added problems. He does have a long name, though, I'll give him that. Iknow. I did a much better one for the epic boards for a crazy minotaur that was better than his CR indicated. it was pretty funny. Sadly though, monster HD count as levels for PCs and not for NPCs... kinda like big monsters have like 40HD but are CR15. I'll try to find the name of the critter. I called him Brutus for short. EDIT: Paragon-Winged-Natural Werebear (Polar)-Insectile-Half-Troll-Greathorn Minotaur. Flavour text (some of it): Take a lycanthrope troll and have it mate with a greathorn minotaur. Use magic ritual to give the newborn the winged, insectile, and paragon templates. You now have a Brutus. his CR was 27, but I felt it should have been higher as he had way more HP than any CR27 I could find and more AC as well as a really insanely high attack bonus... It was pretty fun to make though. haha
WilwarinAndamar 06-13-07, 11:25 PM	Of all the things I want to play, I think the Drider Rogue is the most bizarre. Either that, or a Dwarf Bard with low charisma. :rolleyes:
DX2052 06-13-07, 11:31 PM	Definitely Pun-Pun
Pangeon 06-13-07, 11:38 PM	Either that, or a Dwarf Bard with low charisma. :rolleyes: Friend of mine once played a Derro Bard...
batkevin1974 06-14-07, 12:58 AM	How about a vampire illithid. Psionics, brain sucking, blood draining, spell resistance and a few levels of wizard just to add some spice
bhu 06-14-07, 04:23 AM	How about a vampire illithid. Psionics, brain sucking, blood draining, spell resistance and a few levels of wizard just to add some spice Only have ECL 12. I think I might be able to play a plain illithid with no class levels tho........ If I make one I shall call him Binky! :D
MagicMouth 06-14-07, 07:55 AM	Only have ECL 12. I think I might be able to play a plain illithid with no class levels tho........ If I make one I shall call him Binky! :D Check out the Vampiric Mind Flayer from Lords of Madness. :D It doesnīt have many typical vampire abilities, basically just Blood- and Energy Drain, Fast Healing, DR and Resistances. Nice Strength and Dexterity scores though (18+) but low Int. Itīs HD is 8, and the total ECL shouldnīt be too far above 12, I think (none is given in the book, but meh).
RealSorceror 06-14-07, 09:31 AM	a awakened spoon paladin with monkey grip wilding a fork Thats like.....art or something. :weep: He should TWF with one of those little lobster forks as an off-hand weapon. :D
Omnirahk, half-Rahkshi 06-14-07, 09:35 AM	Heh, that second one was from one of my groups... Anyways, as for my suggestions: Insectile Goblin Winged Thri-Kreen Half-Fiend Ogre Draconic Changeling Good to know its creator found it. I love Belton. I've just gotta see that character make it to play in one of my games.
Skrimshaw 06-14-07, 04:31 PM	Multi-headed Lumi Barbarian Llama Barbarian!
Pangeon 06-14-07, 07:57 PM	Good to know its creator found it. I love Belton. I've just gotta see that character make it to play in one of my games. Yeah, he was awesome. :P
bhu 06-16-07, 03:39 AM	Think it would be evil to play a Half Fang Dragon SPiked Felldrake/Barbarian 1 and multiclass into FB :evillaugh
User5127 06-16-07, 10:06 AM	wait, wait.... Necropolitain Socerer Swarm Shifter. (no idea about the LA for Swarm Shifter though) Now you can get a hive mind in swarm form.. ummm... sh*t? (some one on the CO boards did stats for a retarded swam with hive mind...) EDIT: pick the Swarm of Undead Sand. You are now a 10 foot spaced creature made up of thousands of sand particles with a hive mind. congrats, you just broke the game.)
vineyard 06-16-07, 12:36 PM	If you want something truly mesmerizing and terribly rare you could always make a liberal republical who actualy gives a damn about other people.
Mystic Lemur 06-16-07, 12:50 PM	Half-celestial Drow Bard. Sorcerer/Monk with no tongue and a raven familiar. Dwarf Dervish. Elf who wields a greatsword. :eek: Neutral Evil rogue who helps people all the time, because then they will 'owe' her.
Hydryh 06-16-07, 01:27 PM	Rust Monster Monk. Buy lots of Thunderstones for casters. 'Nuff said.
bhu 06-16-07, 03:12 PM	Rust Monster Monk. Buy lots of Thunderstones for casters. 'Nuff said. omg that would be hysterical Can I eat your sword? No! Can I eat your sword? No! Can I eat your sword? NO!!!!! Next day... WHile I was on watch and you were sleeping I ate your sword. Sorry...
RealSorceror 06-16-07, 03:57 PM	wait, wait.... Necropolitain Socerer Swarm Shifter. (no idea about the LA for Swarm Shifter though) Now you can get a hive mind in swarm form.. ummm... sh*t? (some one on the CO boards did stats for a retarded swam with hive mind...) EDIT: pick the Swarm of Undead Sand. You are now a 10 foot spaced creature made up of thousands of sand particles with a hive mind. congrats, you just broke the game.) I do the same thing with my Nezumi Druid, except with rats. After casting Creeping Doom once, my Sorceror caster level flies into the 50s, and my Charisma score is absurd. :D
RealSorceror 06-16-07, 04:00 PM	omg that would be hysterical Can I eat your sword? No! Can I eat your sword? No! Can I eat your sword? NO!!!!! Next day... WHile I was on watch and you were sleeping I ate your sword. Sorry... Lollers. :dancin: I like that one. Instead of fighting with your legs, just make kung-fu poses with your antenna.
bhu 06-16-07, 07:52 PM	Well it looks like the other players decided to go with heavy optimization as well, so I repeated the question on the CO boards. Needlefolk might be neat if it werent for the "immediately detect all elves within 1500 feet and move to kill them" thingie.
Johnny_Angel 06-16-07, 08:00 PM	Llama Barbarian! A llama barbarian would be pretty funny too. Semi-seriously though, find a picture of a Lumi; then imagine it with multiple heads; imagine all of those heads spinning around or whatever they'd do in a crazy rage. The only thing I'm unsure of is whether you can put the multiheaded template on a Lumi.
User5127 06-16-07, 09:59 PM	go with the swarm idea. if theyt are heavy optimized this will provide hjilarious results. and i'm sure they will cry. :evillaugh EDIT: Also: a swarm of fine sized maggots or sand would be at least 10,000 individuals parts. As such you would have the following traits in swarm form: 207 INT 202 CHA lvl 184 Sor +98 bonus on skills +98 feats Something to that degree. I got the number 10,000 from the MM description on the Swarm subtype in the glossary.
Einvaldurinn_mikli 06-16-07, 10:26 PM	Elf who wields a greatsword. :eek: I think that this has to be actually rules legal, so that's out.
Johnny_Angel 06-16-07, 10:30 PM	Warforged Warlock might be pretty cool and somewhat unique. Feral Gnome Barbarian
Pangeon 06-16-07, 11:11 PM	The best idea I've had for a high level character so far is a Dwarf Dwarven Defender / Dervish. Wear some Mountain Plate, and be a wall for a little bit. Get some enhancement so you an remove it really quickly, then bust out with you're mithral breastplate and double scimitars... Can you say, "WTF?" :eek:
User5127 06-17-07, 01:10 AM	I think you'r DM will HAVE to ban the undead swarm thing. Since it's almost as bad as playing pun pun. the idea that a lvl 12 can suddenly jump to a lvl 184+... that's retarded.
bhu 06-17-07, 01:33 AM	I think you'r DM will HAVE to ban the undead swarm thing. Since it's almost as bad as playing pun pun. the idea that a lvl 12 can suddenly jump to a lvl 184+... that's retarded. He would ban it. At least, he would ban it once i used it's abilities and he'd figured out what I'd done......
poxjedi 06-17-07, 01:33 AM	Dwarf Half-Ogre... Barbarian/Warhulk Half-Dragon Warforged Charger
bhu 06-17-07, 08:27 PM	Winged, Amphibious, Half-Farspawn Ixitxachitl Vampire Cleric Named Timmy
Johnny_Angel 06-17-07, 08:48 PM	Dwarf Half-Ogre... Barbarian/Warhulk Half-Dragon Warforged Charger lol, thanks for the inspiration... Half-Ogre Halfling I'd still like to see somebody play Lumi Barbarian sometime; heck, maybe that will be my next character. The Lumi entry already states that they have an extreme hatred for lying and dishonesty, so I think it would be funny to have a character who flipped out and went into a bloody rage when someone told any sort of lie.
bhu 06-19-07, 04:45 AM	Lollers. :dancin: I like that one. Instead of fighting with your legs, just make kung-fu poses with your antenna. Actually you'd probably do the flurry of blows with your tail. Which means you'd be thwacking people like some huge, demented insectoid beaver....
bhu 06-19-07, 04:48 AM	You know after peeking at the Lumi (and knowing hte guy who will be DM'ing) i think I might just go with them. WIth an appropriately freaky set of templates of course...
RealSorceror 06-19-07, 08:45 AM	go with the swarm idea. if theyt are heavy optimized this will provide hjilarious results. and i'm sure they will cry. :evillaugh EDIT: Also: a swarm of fine sized maggots or sand would be at least 10,000 individuals parts. As such you would have the following traits in swarm form: 207 INT 202 CHA lvl 184 Sor +98 bonus on skills +98 feats Something to that degree. I got the number 10,000 from the MM description on the Swarm subtype in the glossary. Don't post that again. You made me drool a little bit. :drool:
snakeman830 06-19-07, 12:47 PM	Goblin Wizard, 'nuff sid right there. You want something better? Do that whole golem-in-golem type-thing mentioned earlier and put it in Clockwork Armor (it's mentioned somwhere on the D&D site). Oh, and find a way to stick a warforged scout inside. Insectile Thri-keen totemist 6 with permanent Blssings of the Garillion on him. When he binds Garillion Arms, he's got (at least) twelve arms. Add on multi-headed for an additional head, subtract the necessary levels of totemist, and he can use all of them without penalty. Somewhere, I remember seeing a set of armor that had two magical arms built in. Put that on him.
starfire311 06-19-07, 01:03 PM	A DM I know wants to start a campaign based on the idea that you get to play whatever you've always wanted to but have always been told no. The more bizarre the better. If I want to I can be a Winged, Awakened, Anthropomorphic, Amphibious, Multiheaded Octopus. As long as whatever I come up with is somehwere around ECL 12. So I got to thinking while looking at my options that this is gonna be a hard choice :D So any thoughts on what I should try? Only rules are it has to be around ECL 12, the freakier the better. I just started a game like this, it has 5 players... but it is APL 14, they are all level 14 characters, if the races ECL was higher than 14 I creted a savage progression. We have a silver dragon Bralani Ghaele half blue dragon Pixie Human Saint Take a guess which is becoming clearly the most powerful race after 3 sessions... I told them make anything, absolutly anything, and the Player that is always asking to play evil characters is the one that choose the saint. I am now seeing her diabolical plot though, saint is the most evil thing I have ever seen in a game.
RealSorceror 06-19-07, 01:18 PM	.Insectile Thri-keen totemist 6 with permanent Blssings of the Garillion on him. When he binds Garillion Arms, he's got (at least) twelve arms. Add on multi-headed for an additional head, subtract the necessary levels of totemist, and he can use all of them without penalty. Somewhere, I remember seeing a set of armor that had two magical arms built in. Put that on him. Don't forget Arms of the Naga from Savage Species. ;)
Omnirahk, half-Rahkshi 06-19-07, 03:41 PM	Actually you'd probably do the flurry of blows with your tail. Which means you'd be thwacking people like some huge, demented insectoid beaver.... Don't forget - monk. Like Jackie Chan turned into a huge, demented insectoid beaver. Then again, the tail may be more akin to a roundhouse kick. Chuck Norris turned into a huge, demented insectoid beaver. I've so gotta try this.
WilwarinAndamar 06-20-07, 01:14 AM	And one has mentioned making a Halfling Wizard :twitch: HA! That was my first character. Oddly enough, it worked. I loved her. So sad that campaign ended.