Brilliant Energy errata?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Brilliant Energy errata?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Turel
10-28-07, 06:56 PM heya guys

One of my fellow gamers thinks he has seen an errata for Brilliant Energy weapons.
He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade.
I cant find anything about it, has anyone seen this ruling?
In anycase, does it sound right to you and would you use this rule.
Salla
10-28-07, 07:37 PM With brilliant energy often being a hindrance (against undead or constructs, for example), I see no reason to forbid the Strength bonus from applying. The weapon still strikes living targets with appropriate force.
Zherog
10-28-07, 07:47 PM Your player is misremembering; no such rule exists.
Prator_The_Golden
10-28-07, 07:51 PM The blade is insubstantial, but so what? It's not a lightsaber, and won't cut things by itself. It has to have SOME kind of force behind it when it strikes something, and that force is nothing more than the physical strengthh of the wielder.
deathbane
10-29-07, 07:45 AM heya guys

One of my fellow gamers thinks he has seen an errata for Brilliant Energy weapons.
He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade.
I cant find anything about it, has anyone seen this ruling?
In anycase, does it sound right to you and would you use this rule.

Just tell him to show it to you or he can tell you where to find it.
DrMorganes
10-29-07, 09:49 AM He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade.

The rules do not support this assertion. Brilliant Energy weapons have their "significant portion transformed into light, although this does not modify the item’s weight." Nowhere in the enhancement's description does it reference a penalty or negation to STR modifiers.

"Insubstantial" carries connotations of incorporeal entities and the Ghost Touch enhancement. Even in this case, however, there is no reduction or negation of STR modifiers.
nowiwantmydmg
10-29-07, 11:18 AM That would be the description of the brilliant energy modifier from the 3.0 DMG.
Turel
10-29-07, 09:34 PM 3.0 is spot on, the only books this guy owns are the phb 3.0 and the dmg 3.0

He was sure hed seen it written in a Dungeon/Dragon in the sage section, but i'll point him to this thread to clear things up.

Thanks guys, this has been niggling at me for aaages.
:)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Turel 10-28-07, 06:56 PM	heya guys One of my fellow gamers thinks he has seen an errata for Brilliant Energy weapons. He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade. I cant find anything about it, has anyone seen this ruling? In anycase, does it sound right to you and would you use this rule.
Salla 10-28-07, 07:37 PM	With brilliant energy often being a hindrance (against undead or constructs, for example), I see no reason to forbid the Strength bonus from applying. The weapon still strikes living targets with appropriate force.
Zherog 10-28-07, 07:47 PM	Your player is misremembering; no such rule exists.
Prator_The_Golden 10-28-07, 07:51 PM	The blade is insubstantial, but so what? It's not a lightsaber, and won't cut things by itself. It has to have SOME kind of force behind it when it strikes something, and that force is nothing more than the physical strengthh of the wielder.
deathbane 10-29-07, 07:45 AM	heya guys One of my fellow gamers thinks he has seen an errata for Brilliant Energy weapons. He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade. I cant find anything about it, has anyone seen this ruling? In anycase, does it sound right to you and would you use this rule. Just tell him to show it to you or he can tell you where to find it.
DrMorganes 10-29-07, 09:49 AM	He is under the impression that once made brilliant you can no longer apply your strength modifier to your damage, due to the insubstantial nature of the blade. The rules do not support this assertion. Brilliant Energy weapons have their "significant portion transformed into light, although this does not modify the item’s weight." Nowhere in the enhancement's description does it reference a penalty or negation to STR modifiers. "Insubstantial" carries connotations of incorporeal entities and the Ghost Touch enhancement. Even in this case, however, there is no reduction or negation of STR modifiers.
nowiwantmydmg 10-29-07, 11:18 AM	That would be the description of the brilliant energy modifier from the 3.0 DMG.
Turel 10-29-07, 09:34 PM	3.0 is spot on, the only books this guy owns are the phb 3.0 and the dmg 3.0 He was sure hed seen it written in a Dungeon/Dragon in the sage section, but i'll point him to this thread to clear things up. Thanks guys, this has been niggling at me for aaages. :)