Changeling Substitution Wizard and Master Specialist. HELP! [Archive] - Wizards Community

Changeling Substitution Wizard and Master Specialist. HELP! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Spellskin
10-24-06, 04:05 PM I have a question wich is burning in my skull! Recently the Complete Mage came out and with it the Master Specialist prestige class. Naturally it focusses on specialist wizards and, in my opinion, very well at that.

But, in comes the Changeling!

In Races of Ebberon the Changeling gets substitution levels for the Wizard. The first one makes the Changeling into a dual-specialist. She is a transmuter and an illusionist.

So how do these two work together? Does the changeling need both Spell Focus (Transmutation) and (Illusion)? what about the benefits? Will she get both Greater Spell Foci? What about the School Esoterica?

ARGH!

Any suggestions would be extremely appreciated! Thank you :)
JasonOrlandoHawk
10-25-06, 12:43 AM I am not very familiar with Eberron, but I would recommend that a Changeling should decide on wether they wish to enter the class as an Illusionist or as a Transmuter. While a Changeling has the Dual-Specialist trait, the Master Specialist is designed to represent extreme focus in one school of magic.

However, some modification could also happen pretty easily. You might house-rule that a Changeling who meets the pre-requisites to enter the class as both a transmuter and an illusionist can do so, and gains the benefits of both, but at a cost of reduced spellcasting progression. (I would recommend losing 1st, 5th, and 10th level spells, but this is off the top of my head, w/o any books in front of me.)
sparkster4242
10-29-06, 04:13 PM it sometimes makes for some pretty wacky results, but as it stands - as long as you meet the prerequisites for a class, you gain all of its class features.
For Master Specialist, Spell Focus in _any_ of your specialized schools will qualify. however, because the School Esoterica abilities state, 'You gain an ability from those below,' you would only gain one at a time, not one for each of your specialized schools.
The White Sorcerer
10-29-06, 04:49 PM I'd rule that a changeling wizard with the substitution level doesn't meet the requirements of master specialist.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Spellskin 10-24-06, 04:05 PM	I have a question wich is burning in my skull! Recently the Complete Mage came out and with it the Master Specialist prestige class. Naturally it focusses on specialist wizards and, in my opinion, very well at that. But, in comes the Changeling! In Races of Ebberon the Changeling gets substitution levels for the Wizard. The first one makes the Changeling into a dual-specialist. She is a transmuter and an illusionist. So how do these two work together? Does the changeling need both Spell Focus (Transmutation) and (Illusion)? what about the benefits? Will she get both Greater Spell Foci? What about the School Esoterica? ARGH! Any suggestions would be extremely appreciated! Thank you :)
JasonOrlandoHawk 10-25-06, 12:43 AM	I am not very familiar with Eberron, but I would recommend that a Changeling should decide on wether they wish to enter the class as an Illusionist or as a Transmuter. While a Changeling has the Dual-Specialist trait, the Master Specialist is designed to represent extreme focus in one school of magic. However, some modification could also happen pretty easily. You might house-rule that a Changeling who meets the pre-requisites to enter the class as both a transmuter and an illusionist can do so, and gains the benefits of both, but at a cost of reduced spellcasting progression. (I would recommend losing 1st, 5th, and 10th level spells, but this is off the top of my head, w/o any books in front of me.)
sparkster4242 10-29-06, 04:13 PM	it sometimes makes for some pretty wacky results, but as it stands - as long as you meet the prerequisites for a class, you gain all of its class features. For Master Specialist, Spell Focus in _any_ of your specialized schools will qualify. however, because the School Esoterica abilities state, 'You gain an ability from those below,' you would only gain one at a time, not one for each of your specialized schools.
The White Sorcerer 10-29-06, 04:49 PM	I'd rule that a changeling wizard with the substitution level doesn't meet the requirements of master specialist.