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NabraKaj 04-28-06, 01:02 PM	Okay here's the story so far, I am a Priest of Heironous. I was called by my order to go investigate an ancient evil in the mines of a town called Silverton. As first level characters we came across a vampire and a demon lord! (No kobolds in this adventure.) Anyway we find that the silver that some of my parties characters were going to steal( we have a merc and a rogue in the group) is tainted and will bring upon an apocalypse! We go to a town called Soulgrave where my priest runs into his long lost brother a fallen paladin named Reeves. Reeves runs Soulgrave and is in charge of all the shipping of the silver in. Trying to convince him to give us the silver to save th world a heated batte ensues and my brother kills me. My party members kill him. Okay here is where it really gets interesting. I die and have a sort of divine or undivine intervention with a being called the Lich King. He claims the only way to stop the demon lord is to ressurect him. In order to ressurect him we need the ashes of a necromancer we killed that is heavily guarded by my temple. I journey to my temple to talk to the high priest and while i am talking me and my friends are captured and labeled heretics. I am thrown into a room and tortued. So my question to you fellow gamers is what does my character do next do i summon the lesser of two evils? Do I leave the faith of heronous? Do we try to assemble an army of warriors to fight the demon lord.
humantoilet 04-28-06, 01:23 PM	leave them and try to become an Ur Priest
Board_Rider 04-28-06, 02:29 PM	Punch your DM and tell him to stop hanging out dead end plothooks. I wouldn't leave the faith..just stick with it.
Doopliss 04-28-06, 02:36 PM	You don't know that the Lich King is telling the truth. If a Lich told me the only way to stop a demon was to revive an evil undead, I'd call him a filthy liar. Did he have a good reason that this would help? I would suggest you attempt to find another way to stop the Demon Lord rising. Quite honestly, I can see why you'd be labeled 'heretic', but you were tortured by clerics of Heironeus!? I imagine a bunch of folks have just lost divine spellcasting. ;)
Spike_Fightwicky 04-28-06, 02:50 PM	Okay here's the story so far, I am a Priest of Heironous. I was called by my order to go investigate an ancient evil in the mines of a town called Silverton. As first level characters we came across a vampire and a demon lord! (No kobolds in this adventure.) Anyway we find that the silver that some of my parties characters were going to steal( we have a merc and a rogue in the group) is tainted and will bring upon an apocalypse! We go to a town called Soulgrave where my priest runs into his long lost brother a fallen paladin named Reeves. Reeves runs Soulgrave and is in charge of all the shipping of the silver in. Trying to convince him to give us the silver to save th world a heated batte ensues and my brother kills me. My party members kill him. Okay here is where it really gets interesting. I die and have a sort of divine or undivine intervention with a being called the Lich King. He claims the only way to stop the demon lord is to ressurect him. In order to ressurect him we need the ashes of a necromancer we killed that is heavily guarded by my temple. I journey to my temple to talk to the high priest and while i am talking me and my friends are captured and labeled heretics. I am thrown into a room and tortued. So my question to you fellow gamers is what does my character do next do i summon the lesser of two evils? Do I leave the faith of heronous? Do we try to assemble an army of warriors to fight the demon lord. You should tell your DM not to recycle Warcraft III plots :D Honestly, the spirit of a dead necromancer who is commanded by "The Lich King" leads Arthas (who was a fallen Paladin, BTW) to collect his ashes from his well guarded resting place and use them to restore that necromancer to unlife (as a lich). You then go about trying to resurrect said Lich King, all the while the rest of the world is trying to stop a demon lord from invading the world in WC3. Thar be parallels here. Back to the story, why doesn't your cleric go find a higher up in his order and ask for advice? To be honest, your character is in a bit of a bind and it would be legitimate to ask for help (rezing anybody called 'the Lich King' never means something positive). Your character's a little bit in over his head, especially for his level.
NabraKaj 04-28-06, 11:04 PM	Thanks for the feedback guys. I can see why I am in the situation ( I mean a lawful good cleric starts talking about seeing a lich king in the after life sounds kind of blasphemus) But would a lawful good cleric lie or not tell the whole truth to the head of his order. I think i played my character. I think he is going to have to do some soul searching. hmm heres a thought what if the church has been replaced by some sort of evil. then i wouldnt have to change deities. well if that is not the case perhaps a deity switch is needed. How do you roleplay a deity change? Or I think perhaps recruiting an army.
Doopliss 04-29-06, 09:41 AM	well if that is not the case perhaps a deity switch is needed. How do you roleplay a deity change? Or I think perhaps recruiting an army.I wouldn't say a deity switch is necessary. Just a better idea not to be a part of that particular order. Come to think of it, it's an unarmored hand holding a lightning bolt, right? Similar enough to a gauntlet holding arrows to confuse a new guy, and I'm getting seriously suspicious when they start torturing their own paladin. ;) You can follow Heironeous without agreeing with most of his clerics.
SweetMeats 04-29-06, 10:02 AM	Punch your DM and tell him to stop hanging out dead end plothooks. Who said it was dead end? The Dm has laid out a series of events/plots and basicaly (by sounds of the original post) left it in the hands of the players to decide the next course of action. He's included repercussions of actions, as well. Thats what a DM does.
Novacat 04-29-06, 10:15 AM	DMs should also come up with their own stories.
Wolfpack 04-29-06, 10:27 AM	How do you roleplay a deity change? That's a bit of a tough one, generally speaking finding a new diety would require a huge event in game that "opens your eyes" or a fair bit of soul searching, without the former we have to go for the latter. If you will no longer worship Heironous then you won't be able to prepare spells etc, until you find a new diety, but wait that isn't completely true now is it? According to the PHB a cleric doesn't need a diety to cast spells, in my opinion that is BS if you actually want to roleplay this situation out (or at least roleplay it this way, more on that below). What I would do is have this character take some time off in game and travel the countryside visiting temples etc while you make a new temporary character until you and your DM (between sessions) have worked out what has happened to your character and what diety he believes "follows the right path". In game this could take a few months which is why you would need a temporary PC for adventuring with the party. Or if one of the other party members has a diety that PC could take you under his wing and preach his diety to you and maybe take you to his local temple where you begin to convert. This way you can stay in the group gaining spells without a diety until a time comes where your prayers to this new diety are answered in the form of some divine sign and you begin gaining spells from your new patron diety. For more role playing oppertunites (if your party can servive without a healer) say that until you gain your new diety you can't prepare spells you will be mostly useless in battle but it could open up some fun soul searching quest that the DM could make. Just my 2cp. Enjoy.
hmmmm 04-29-06, 05:10 PM	Leave.
Board_Rider 04-29-06, 09:25 PM	Who said it was dead end? The Dm has laid out a series of events/plots and basicaly (by sounds of the original post) left it in the hands of the players to decide the next course of action. He's included repercussions of actions, as well. Thats what a DM does. I guess we disagree. As a DM I never say (to paraphrase): You go here. You fight. Oh? You're dead? No matter, a LIch King revives you to go do something that will most likely be against your personal beliefs much more so your church's. Buuut you decide to keep the game rolling so you go to the church. I will now punish you for being a heretic "in game" because my "plot hook" was taken. What was the alternative again? Die? Hmmmmm...engineer cap for that DM and 10 across the chin. Not really of course, but I made my point. Don't see it? Well, thats the beauty of D&D, everybody plays it differently.