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alchemyprime
01-29-07, 07:06 PM Hello. I am playing a Human Rogue 1/ Cleric of Olidammara 3 in a campaign my friend is running. I would like to know how I should level this character up. His domains are Trickery and Luck, his alinment is Chaotic Good, and the theme I want for him is "Master of Disguise". He's the face of the party.
His scores:
Strength 10
Dexterity 16
Constitution 16
Intelligence 16
Wisdom 17
Charisma 16

I already used his 4th level bonus.

And if Fizzleborp is reading this thread, stop.
Alex_
01-29-07, 08:54 PM What's your character's alignment, feats, and what are you trying to achieve with this character both mechanically and in roleplaying wise?
Thubby
01-29-07, 10:36 PM ?blackflame zealot? (its a rogue/clr prc) in comp div. though you'll have to get the dm's ok to change the associated guild.
this very much depends on your idea. if you wanna be a cleric splash rogue, you wanna get at least 3 levels in rogue, then run with cleric. if your gonna be a rogue splash cleric, just start running with rogue. if you wanna go 50/50, go into bf zealot.
no matter what, you want to go for rogue level now, all the other casters are getting level 3 spells, that means fireball is now on the table. the rogues evasion is key.
lvl 5 isnt very impressive for you, so i cant recomend much. butdo get weapon finese asap if your even contemplating melee
alchemyprime
02-14-07, 10:37 PM Okay. Feats... *runs to grab character sheet*

Dodge, Weapon Finese and Combat Reflexes.

I want a cleric who is rather rogue-ish. Splsh rogue.

Chaotic Good alignment, but acts very Chaotic Neutral sometimes.

Mechanically, I want to be a good healer, but also be able to sneak, lie and cheat my way through any situation.

Role-Playing wise, he is a master of disguise, guile, deciet and the seduction of women. He lives his life by his rules, but ignores all others. His faith is not blind faith, but rather a form of rebellion and insugence.

He was raised to be a cleric his whole life. However, he was meant to be a cleric of Wee Jas. He was an excellent spell-caster in the strength of his spells, but the other clergy made fun of him for reading constantly into crime. He wished to become an inquisitor, in order to stop criminals.

However, he insulted the clergy by disobeying a direct order to kill a criminal for stealing to feed his family.

His casting lost, he wandered into town and met an old vagrant that he protected from some thugs with his mace. The vagrant took him into the woods, and taught him in order to reward him. He taught him how criminals thought, what they could do, and how they did it. He gave him a weapon more suited for his strengths: a rapier. He had become Windriver the Vigilante.

The clergy was angered at him for helping the vagrant and defeating an important nobleman who stopped donating to the church. His mother, father and fiance (with unborn son) were kidnapped. He was forced to watch as an ice devil devoured them all. As he watched this, his holy symbol of Wee Jas shattered. He was now Grim.

As he wandered, he used his rapier and theiving abilities to defeat many small temples of Wee Jas, burning them to the ground. However, after starting one of his fires, he saw a young girl. He rescued her and all of the other children in the temple, only to be rewarded with a lightning bolt to the back from the head preist. Left for dead, the vagrant found him. He was in fact a cleric of Olidammara. He nursed Grim to health, and gave him a suit of armour, a song of Olidammara's teachings, a new rapier, a crossbow and some equipment, as well as leassons in disguise and an attonment to be one of Olidammara's flock.

After the vagrant cast a speak with dead spell, Grim's fiance gave him a message: Love. Love as many as possible, in order ot strike back at Wee Jas without violence. Violence only leads to more violence. Olidammara would want you to have fun, and I want you to have love.

So now he is Oliander "Grim" Windriver.
He remember's his past, and has sworn to defeat all devils that cross his path.
He remembers his training, and has sworn to not be only one person, for one person can only take on so many problems.
He remembers his first love, and has sworn to make sure that every woman he meets knows love's sweet taste at least once.
He remembers the old temple, and will defeat all followers of Wee Jas who do not prove themselves as trustworthy or corruptable to the side of chaos to him.
He looks to the future, and lives life as it comes to him.

He also has a tenancy to dress as a woman, seduce men, tie them to their beds, and then steal their stuff.

I want there to be few levels of rogue. I'm wondering if you can sneak attack with a sunbeam spel...
Board_Rider
02-14-07, 10:54 PM Doesn't the Complete Scoundrel have a Master of Many faces PrC?
Hariman
02-20-07, 08:51 PM Shadowbane Inquisitor is an option. (Complete Adventurer, I think) But it has a set of ideals to uphold.

I can't think of anything else.
Orchomenos
02-21-07, 09:55 AM Doesn't the Complete Scoundrel have a Master of Many faces PrC?

Master of Masks. In the Excerpt (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20070105a&page=3).

Is the 1d6 sneak attack really important for you? If not, I suggest you to take one level of bard instead. You have a bit less skill points, but all the cleric skills are class skills for the bard, and you will be able to use some arcane wands.

With the Trickery domain, you have the spell Disguise Self, and Disguise is a class-skill. So I would suggest to maximize this skill, as well as bluff & diplomacy (for more "official" situations). Hide & Move Silently are more or less important, since you have the Invisibility & Silence. I suggest that you cast Silence on something you can throw away, like a dagger, so when a fight begin, you can throw it at the spellcasting opponents. And don't forget Concentration and Heal.

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alchemyprime 01-29-07, 07:06 PM	Hello. I am playing a Human Rogue 1/ Cleric of Olidammara 3 in a campaign my friend is running. I would like to know how I should level this character up. His domains are Trickery and Luck, his alinment is Chaotic Good, and the theme I want for him is "Master of Disguise". He's the face of the party. His scores: Strength 10 Dexterity 16 Constitution 16 Intelligence 16 Wisdom 17 Charisma 16 I already used his 4th level bonus. And if Fizzleborp is reading this thread, stop.
Alex_ 01-29-07, 08:54 PM	What's your character's alignment, feats, and what are you trying to achieve with this character both mechanically and in roleplaying wise?
Thubby 01-29-07, 10:36 PM	?blackflame zealot? (its a rogue/clr prc) in comp div. though you'll have to get the dm's ok to change the associated guild. this very much depends on your idea. if you wanna be a cleric splash rogue, you wanna get at least 3 levels in rogue, then run with cleric. if your gonna be a rogue splash cleric, just start running with rogue. if you wanna go 50/50, go into bf zealot. no matter what, you want to go for rogue level now, all the other casters are getting level 3 spells, that means fireball is now on the table. the rogues evasion is key. lvl 5 isnt very impressive for you, so i cant recomend much. butdo get weapon finese asap if your even contemplating melee
alchemyprime 02-14-07, 10:37 PM	Okay. Feats... runs to grab character sheet Dodge, Weapon Finese and Combat Reflexes. I want a cleric who is rather rogue-ish. Splsh rogue. Chaotic Good alignment, but acts very Chaotic Neutral sometimes. Mechanically, I want to be a good healer, but also be able to sneak, lie and cheat my way through any situation. Role-Playing wise, he is a master of disguise, guile, deciet and the seduction of women. He lives his life by his rules, but ignores all others. His faith is not blind faith, but rather a form of rebellion and insugence. He was raised to be a cleric his whole life. However, he was meant to be a cleric of Wee Jas. He was an excellent spell-caster in the strength of his spells, but the other clergy made fun of him for reading constantly into crime. He wished to become an inquisitor, in order to stop criminals. However, he insulted the clergy by disobeying a direct order to kill a criminal for stealing to feed his family. His casting lost, he wandered into town and met an old vagrant that he protected from some thugs with his mace. The vagrant took him into the woods, and taught him in order to reward him. He taught him how criminals thought, what they could do, and how they did it. He gave him a weapon more suited for his strengths: a rapier. He had become Windriver the Vigilante. The clergy was angered at him for helping the vagrant and defeating an important nobleman who stopped donating to the church. His mother, father and fiance (with unborn son) were kidnapped. He was forced to watch as an ice devil devoured them all. As he watched this, his holy symbol of Wee Jas shattered. He was now Grim. As he wandered, he used his rapier and theiving abilities to defeat many small temples of Wee Jas, burning them to the ground. However, after starting one of his fires, he saw a young girl. He rescued her and all of the other children in the temple, only to be rewarded with a lightning bolt to the back from the head preist. Left for dead, the vagrant found him. He was in fact a cleric of Olidammara. He nursed Grim to health, and gave him a suit of armour, a song of Olidammara's teachings, a new rapier, a crossbow and some equipment, as well as leassons in disguise and an attonment to be one of Olidammara's flock. After the vagrant cast a speak with dead spell, Grim's fiance gave him a message: Love. Love as many as possible, in order ot strike back at Wee Jas without violence. Violence only leads to more violence. Olidammara would want you to have fun, and I want you to have love. So now he is Oliander "Grim" Windriver. He remember's his past, and has sworn to defeat all devils that cross his path. He remembers his training, and has sworn to not be only one person, for one person can only take on so many problems. He remembers his first love, and has sworn to make sure that every woman he meets knows love's sweet taste at least once. He remembers the old temple, and will defeat all followers of Wee Jas who do not prove themselves as trustworthy or corruptable to the side of chaos to him. He looks to the future, and lives life as it comes to him. He also has a tenancy to dress as a woman, seduce men, tie them to their beds, and then steal their stuff. I want there to be few levels of rogue. I'm wondering if you can sneak attack with a sunbeam spel...
Board_Rider 02-14-07, 10:54 PM	Doesn't the Complete Scoundrel have a Master of Many faces PrC?
Hariman 02-20-07, 08:51 PM	Shadowbane Inquisitor is an option. (Complete Adventurer, I think) But it has a set of ideals to uphold. I can't think of anything else.
Orchomenos 02-21-07, 09:55 AM	Doesn't the Complete Scoundrel have a Master of Many faces PrC? Master of Masks. In the Excerpt (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20070105a&page=3). Is the 1d6 sneak attack really important for you? If not, I suggest you to take one level of bard instead. You have a bit less skill points, but all the cleric skills are class skills for the bard, and you will be able to use some arcane wands. With the Trickery domain, you have the spell Disguise Self, and Disguise is a class-skill. So I would suggest to maximize this skill, as well as bluff & diplomacy (for more "official" situations). Hide & Move Silently are more or less important, since you have the Invisibility & Silence. I suggest that you cast Silence on something you can throw away, like a dagger, so when a fight begin, you can throw it at the spellcasting opponents. And don't forget Concentration and Heal.