Confused on La and Ecl [Archive] - Wizards Community

Confused on La and Ecl [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Shyness
03-03-05, 02:56 PM I'm confused about La and Ecl. If you have 4 lvl of character does that mean a la 3 can be a 1 class lvl character and how does ecl affect this? Please give an example if possible?

Thanks ahead of time. :)
Jayr
03-03-05, 03:13 PM LA + racial hit dice = ECL. For instance a minotaur has 6 hit dice and an LA of +2 so its ECL is +8. You subtract your ECL from your starting level, so at 4th level you could be, for example, a 1st-level gnoll fighter, because a gnoll has 2 hit dice and a +1 LA, which gives it a +3 ECL.

Personally, I think Wizards should have scrapped LA and just used ECL, because that would have streamlined the system, but that's just my opinion. Just wondering, what race do you want to play?
Vharuck
03-03-05, 03:21 PM Yup, but more defined it's LA + ALL HD = ECL. 2 racial HD, a +3 LA, and 4 levels of cleric is ECL 9 (2+3+4=9).
Shyness
03-04-05, 01:27 AM I'm not sure. I've got 4 lvls to work with. I would like to play a rogue type, but I want to try out something beside the basic 5. The last character I made was a halfling barbarian. He was pretty good a first lvl. +6 to hit, 18 Ac, but only did 1d3+1 damage. It was fun to try.
Koda77
03-04-05, 02:17 AM try a githenki monk
Jayr
03-04-05, 10:04 AM You could try a 2nd-level drow, a 3rd-level gith or tiefling, a 1st-level grig, or a pixie with no character levels. The only downside is that your hit points will really be crippled, since none of the low level roguey races have hit dice. For races without level adjustments, well, there's always goblins and kobolds :D
Callista
03-06-05, 12:27 AM Hmm, yes... goblin or kobold is cool. :) Kobold you have to contend with annoying minuses to stats though.

I've always liked Tieflings. There's just so much of a "cool factor" to having fiendish heritage...
Wizard
03-06-05, 01:04 AM To chime in for the forces of good, though, No One Smites Like Aasimar (TM).
Finley DaDum
03-06-05, 05:19 AM try a githenki monk

Assuming Koda meant githyanki I will counter with Githzeria Monk or Rogue.

+6 Dex, -2 Int, +2 Wis, some spell like abilities and +4 to AC as a Monk your HP will be subpar (recomend high con, toughness, and Imp toughness) but your AC can end up being through the roof. Always better not to get hit at all and with bonuses to Dex and Wis if you put a high stat in Con your saves will be excellent as well.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Shyness 03-03-05, 02:56 PM	I'm confused about La and Ecl. If you have 4 lvl of character does that mean a la 3 can be a 1 class lvl character and how does ecl affect this? Please give an example if possible? Thanks ahead of time. :)
Jayr 03-03-05, 03:13 PM	LA + racial hit dice = ECL. For instance a minotaur has 6 hit dice and an LA of +2 so its ECL is +8. You subtract your ECL from your starting level, so at 4th level you could be, for example, a 1st-level gnoll fighter, because a gnoll has 2 hit dice and a +1 LA, which gives it a +3 ECL. Personally, I think Wizards should have scrapped LA and just used ECL, because that would have streamlined the system, but that's just my opinion. Just wondering, what race do you want to play?
Vharuck 03-03-05, 03:21 PM	Yup, but more defined it's LA + ALL HD = ECL. 2 racial HD, a +3 LA, and 4 levels of cleric is ECL 9 (2+3+4=9).
Shyness 03-04-05, 01:27 AM	I'm not sure. I've got 4 lvls to work with. I would like to play a rogue type, but I want to try out something beside the basic 5. The last character I made was a halfling barbarian. He was pretty good a first lvl. +6 to hit, 18 Ac, but only did 1d3+1 damage. It was fun to try.
Koda77 03-04-05, 02:17 AM	try a githenki monk
Jayr 03-04-05, 10:04 AM	You could try a 2nd-level drow, a 3rd-level gith or tiefling, a 1st-level grig, or a pixie with no character levels. The only downside is that your hit points will really be crippled, since none of the low level roguey races have hit dice. For races without level adjustments, well, there's always goblins and kobolds :D
Callista 03-06-05, 12:27 AM	Hmm, yes... goblin or kobold is cool. :) Kobold you have to contend with annoying minuses to stats though. I've always liked Tieflings. There's just so much of a "cool factor" to having fiendish heritage...
Wizard 03-06-05, 01:04 AM	To chime in for the forces of good, though, No One Smites Like Aasimar (TM).
Finley DaDum 03-06-05, 05:19 AM	try a githenki monk Assuming Koda meant githyanki I will counter with Githzeria Monk or Rogue. +6 Dex, -2 Int, +2 Wis, some spell like abilities and +4 to AC as a Monk your HP will be subpar (recomend high con, toughness, and Imp toughness) but your AC can end up being through the roof. Always better not to get hit at all and with bonuses to Dex and Wis if you put a high stat in Con your saves will be excellent as well.