Dragon PC's [Archive] - Wizards Community

Dragon PC's [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Orinkar
09-22-05, 11:33 PM Hey,

I'm currently playing a red dragon PC in my campaign as a DM character whent here's not enough others to play. He's currently at 14th level but will soon be 15th. I've got the Dragon magazine issue with the level progressions in it but I'm actually a bit stumped.

I plan on running this campaign well into epic levels and the Red Dragon PC progression stops at level 20 right in the middle of the "Young" age category. I was wondering if there were some ideas out there on what the class would look like past 20?

I was going to just take rogue classes or something next level but I'd kind of like to know at least how to get the dragon to Juvenile or Adult using those progressions. Is this one of those things I'm going to have to calculate myself?

I hope not.

Thanks for the help!
On_the_wings_of_TPK
09-23-05, 04:10 PM get yourself a copy of the epic players hand book. (It may be 3.0 but it has a formunal for extending levl progression into epic levels.) Or a copy of the Draconomicon. it gives dragon PC rules and i think they go into epic. Although be careful with the creastures in there as they are TPK machines.

On a side note, DMPCs Baddddddddddd. Reducing monsters, lowering encounter levels, and allowing leadership Goooooooooood.

Seriousely DMPCs just detract from the game and take away a players sence of acomplishment. Aldo it is a mjour conflict of interest. i refuse to play in a game with DMPC.
Devin, The Rogue Princess
09-23-05, 04:14 PM i refuse to play in a game with DMPC.
Ditto. I can understand how it can help if there's not enough players, but DMPC tend to make other people who play with them seem weak by comparison. The only time I actually enjoyed playing with a DMPC was when we were trying out a DragonLance compaign, and the DM was using a Gully Dwarf as his PC. We could kick him around, blame him for all the bad stuff happening, and finally just sell him for some money at the end of the campaign! :D
Orinkar
09-23-05, 06:11 PM Yeah I only play a DM character when there's not enough players to go around. I balance the encounters for four people usually (don't ever know until game night whether everyone can show) and only use my characters as auxilliary. Mine fill the role of 'advanced hireling' usually, and I haven't really had any complaints yet.

I do let everyone who wants to use the Leadership feat. The only problem is no one does, and while I do let them roll their own cohorts up it's hard to run them as NPC's and my players don't really like using more then one character at a time anyway.

So anyway those books don't have level progressions in them. Not for dragons anyway.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Orinkar 09-22-05, 11:33 PM	Hey, I'm currently playing a red dragon PC in my campaign as a DM character whent here's not enough others to play. He's currently at 14th level but will soon be 15th. I've got the Dragon magazine issue with the level progressions in it but I'm actually a bit stumped. I plan on running this campaign well into epic levels and the Red Dragon PC progression stops at level 20 right in the middle of the "Young" age category. I was wondering if there were some ideas out there on what the class would look like past 20? I was going to just take rogue classes or something next level but I'd kind of like to know at least how to get the dragon to Juvenile or Adult using those progressions. Is this one of those things I'm going to have to calculate myself? I hope not. Thanks for the help!
On_the_wings_of_TPK 09-23-05, 04:10 PM	get yourself a copy of the epic players hand book. (It may be 3.0 but it has a formunal for extending levl progression into epic levels.) Or a copy of the Draconomicon. it gives dragon PC rules and i think they go into epic. Although be careful with the creastures in there as they are TPK machines. On a side note, DMPCs Baddddddddddd. Reducing monsters, lowering encounter levels, and allowing leadership Goooooooooood. Seriousely DMPCs just detract from the game and take away a players sence of acomplishment. Aldo it is a mjour conflict of interest. i refuse to play in a game with DMPC.
Devin, The Rogue Princess 09-23-05, 04:14 PM	i refuse to play in a game with DMPC. Ditto. I can understand how it can help if there's not enough players, but DMPC tend to make other people who play with them seem weak by comparison. The only time I actually enjoyed playing with a DMPC was when we were trying out a DragonLance compaign, and the DM was using a Gully Dwarf as his PC. We could kick him around, blame him for all the bad stuff happening, and finally just sell him for some money at the end of the campaign! :D
Orinkar 09-23-05, 06:11 PM	Yeah I only play a DM character when there's not enough players to go around. I balance the encounters for four people usually (don't ever know until game night whether everyone can show) and only use my characters as auxilliary. Mine fill the role of 'advanced hireling' usually, and I haven't really had any complaints yet. I do let everyone who wants to use the Leadership feat. The only problem is no one does, and while I do let them roll their own cohorts up it's hard to run them as NPC's and my players don't really like using more then one character at a time anyway. So anyway those books don't have level progressions in them. Not for dragons anyway.