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pws421 04-17-06, 07:49 AM	If you have a Drow PC, is it possible to craft some sort of visor of colored glass (most likely black), so that the PC would not be stunned and dazzled in light? It could work kind of like sunglasses, shading their more sensative eyes...
Codethulhu 04-17-06, 08:39 AM	There's no mention of it in the books that I know. There's a feat in the FRCS called daylight adaptation, that allows you to move in the sun with no penalty, but that's it. Any visor/goggles/lens/factor 5000 sun block you come up with would probably be subject to DM approval. I imagine such a device would be very costly however, or drow raids on the surface world would be a great deal more frequent.
nyysjan 04-17-06, 10:02 AM	sundark goggles from races of dragon
kelvinaw273 04-17-06, 11:45 AM	After all, a disadvantage is a disadvantage. A smoked glass visor might be feasable, but would anyone think of it? Smoked glass was around for a long time before sunglasses were thought of, after all. Unless precision grinding of these is also invented (ie good lenses or even flat, even glass) then a visor would still distort vision (if you don't believe me, look at small tudor glass windows, the glass is distorted - thicker at the bottom than the top - and this is post-medieval technology). Even if you could make the visor, could you keep it on in an adventurer's exertions? They might need regular reflex checks to keep their visor on. If it falls off it certainly will shatter. Lastly, your drow might have other problems. In the Belgariad the Ulgo Relg lived all his life in a subterranean environment. He had the problem of light sensitivity solved using veils, but suffered badly from Agoraphobia (fear of open spaces ... the sky, it was just so BIG!).
pangalactic 04-17-06, 12:30 PM	I seem to remember reading that old glass windows are thicker at the bottom because glass is actually an incredibly viscous liquid. The effect of gravity over time is what leads to the glass sinking downwards and becoming thicker at the bottom; it's nothing to do with the quality of the manufacturing techniques used at the time.
pws421 04-17-06, 01:49 PM	Pangalactic is correct about his readings. This is the case, but there are certain things that I will have to considder, as you mentioned, kelvinaw273... Such as having it as a sort of helmet or something, and figure out the appropriate checks to use it. Thanks for the advice!
kelvinaw273 04-17-06, 02:08 PM	I seem to remember reading that old glass windows are thicker at the bottom because glass is actually an incredibly viscous liquid. The effect of gravity over time is what leads to the glass sinking downwards and becoming thicker at the bottom; it's nothing to do with the quality of the manufacturing techniques used at the time. A common mythconception, because to a physicist glass is a liquid. The panes were actually made that way because they had problems making flat glass. :D
green_yawgmoth 04-17-06, 04:19 PM	There's also sunglasses in the Libris Mortis that prevent bright light effects and lets a vampire stay in sunlight for a full round. I think they're like 9000gp. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
kelvinaw273 04-17-06, 05:14 PM	There's also sunglasses in the Libris Mortis that prevent bright light effects and lets a vampire stay in sunlight for a full round. I think they're like 9000gp. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif Never before how have I felt the urge to call any official product a splat-book. Such ideas as these should never see the light of day ....
Gaia 04-27-06, 11:15 PM	After all, a disadvantage is a disadvantage. A smoked glass visor might be feasable, but would anyone think of it? Smoked glass was around for a long time before sunglasses were thought of, after all. Unless precision grinding of these is also invented (ie good lenses or even flat, even glass) then a visor would still distort vision (if you don't believe me, look at small tudor glass windows, the glass is distorted - thicker at the bottom than the top - and this is post-medieval technology). Even if you could make the visor, could you keep it on in an adventurer's exertions? They might need regular reflex checks to keep their visor on. If it falls off it certainly will shatter. Lastly, your drow might have other problems. In the Belgariad the Ulgo Relg lived all his life in a subterranean environment. He had the problem of light sensitivity solved using veils, but suffered badly from Agoraphobia (fear of open spaces ... the sky, it was just so BIG!). As Nyysjan already told, the sundark goggles from RotD solve the problem. All of your advices are covered there. First of all, the sundark goggles they have a band that keeps them from falling off. Also, wearing them makes you take a -2 penalty to Search and Spot checks.
green_yawgmoth 04-28-06, 02:41 AM	Never before how have I felt the urge to call any official product a splat-book. Such ideas as these should never see the light of day .... What, magic items that make tiny penalties go away and make a cripplingly immense drawback slightly less crippling? Am I missing something here, or are you just a purist who thinks that a +3 sword should be an artifact? http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
Priest_of_Shaundakul 04-28-06, 02:50 AM	There are also glasses that Orcs use in Races of Eberron to cut down on the glare as well. *laughs at Yawgmoth's comment* So true, so many players look at anything +1 and over as some godly gift :)
Another Gnome 04-28-06, 02:53 AM	The concept of a vampire wearing a pair of sunglasses is what's really terrible about it. Couldn't they have at least make it a frigging sun lotion..?