Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tharivol_Nailo 01-10-07, 08:55 PM	It says in the PHB that any spell I cast on myself also affect my familiar. Does this mean that if I cast tongues and then permanency on myself, would tongues also be permanent on my familiar too?
TheChilliGod 01-10-07, 09:48 PM	Yeah, I suppose it would. But, if your familiar moves more than 5 feet away from you, then both the permanency and the tongues effect would stop affecting the familiar (because the duration of both spells is not instantaneous), which would make all that effort you spent wasted. And the familiar would still only be able to speak one language, even if you casted both spells only on the familiar (which would negate the above disadvantage).
Tharivol_Nailo 01-12-07, 04:02 PM	Becousae ita permanent ability, wouldnt it mean that if he came back to within 5 ft it would reactivate?
Artector 01-12-07, 04:13 PM	Becousae ita permanent ability, wouldnt it mean that if he came back to within 5 ft it would reactivate? Nope. If the spell or effect has a duration other than instantaneous, it stops affecting the familiar if it moves farther than 5 feet away and will not affect the familiar again even if it returns to the master before the duration expires. Additionally, the master may cast a spell with a target of "You" on his familiar (as a touch range spell) instead of on himself.
Tharivol_Nailo 01-12-07, 04:30 PM	Ok thank you for clearing this up.