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| Drausktanchache07-10-06, 12:05 AM | what do you think of this? I had this character in a friend's campaign, It's a lvl 12 barbarrian and his str and con were obscenelyhigh, like 80 str and about 30-40 con.. he wasstrong enough to rip the whole city wall (intact) from the ground surrounding a metropolis, and he kindof did just that, he took the city gate straight fromthe wall and broke down the keep with it, basically it ended up that he and a single party member took a whole city singlehanded..it was really cool! |
| runestar07-10-06, 12:22 AM | How the heck did you get a str that high? Skullcrush ogres get only +14 str, assuming starting str of 18, that's (18+14+3 from lv ups) for a base str of 35. Assuming equipped with girdle of strength +6 and tome of str+5, that's still only a final score of 46. Even if you replaced those lvs of barb with warhulk, your final str is still only 66. :confused: After rage, your str reaches 70, but it is still 10 point short. Then there's the problem of con as well - since they get just +6 con, or +10 con while raging. Could you repost your build? Thanks. |
| FeceMan07-10-06, 01:05 AM | EDIT: Nevermind, misread something. |
| Encard07-10-06, 05:09 AM | Err... That's nice. And rather silly, I think. But hey, if you like it, go for it. How did you get the Str/Con up there, though, I am also curious? Not that I haven't seen higher, but it is a tad unusual... |
| Boshi07-10-06, 09:55 AM | Yay munchkinism! |
| Drausktanchache07-10-06, 01:18 PM | oh..i don't exactly remember but he had everything you possibly could hav to up str and con, and possibly more, he had a few permenancy spells placed upon him, and monkey grip so he used a huge greatsword, he also kept a huge warhammer with him to play golf with peoples heads it was reall quite interesting, he'd dig a hole put them in the holw and keep their head above ground, tthen fill the hole in and *whack* or else he participated in gnome throwing.... |
| Encard07-10-06, 01:24 PM | I'm getting this feeling that, if everything about this character were actually checked, the Str score would go down a fair bit. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, who knows. *shrug* |
| Drausktanchache07-10-06, 01:57 PM | it was checked..by the players..by the dm..by the other players who sometimes play dms as a dms...it was funny how many tmes the looked over the piece of paper... |
| FeceMan07-10-06, 04:54 PM | oh..i don't exactly remember but he had everything you possibly could hav to up str and con, and possibly more, he had a few permenancy spells placed upon him, and monkey grip so he used a huge greatsword, he also kept a huge warhammer with him to play golf with peoples heads it was reall quite interesting, he'd dig a hole put them in the holw and keep their head above ground, tthen fill the hole in and *whack* or else he participated in gnome throwing.... "Okay, guys, I'm having the wizard cast Bull's Strength and Bear's Endurance on me, then he's going to permanency it. Then he'll do it again, and then I'll wear my amulet of health +6 and belt of giant's strength +6. Then maybe we'll do it again." |
| kelvinaw27307-10-06, 06:58 PM | it was checked..by the players..by the dm..by the other players who sometimes play dms as a dms...it was funny how many tmes the looked over the piece of paper... If it was in my game, I'D check it thoroughly. Frankly, blowing your strength to that level is crazy .... And you said he had a high Con AS WELL???? <shudders at the munchkinism> |
| Encard07-10-06, 09:39 PM | Fair enough. I still stand by my guess, though. No offense meant, but I've seen enough other sheets that have been "checked over" and still manage to be completely impossible. Any chance you feel like putting the stuff up? I'm actually pretty curious where this is coming from... |
| runestar07-11-06, 01:11 AM | I have a gut feeling the high str was achieved by stacking multiple enhancement str bonuses together....which shouldn't be the case by the RAW... |
| allenchan07-11-06, 03:03 AM | Yea, no way this was legit, plain and simple, and if he had 12 levels of barbarian in a 12th level game someone needs to be taught what ECL means. |
| LouSapphire07-11-06, 04:01 AM | And this fits into "Whats a Player to Do?" how? No offence, but it just seems like you're trying to get attention. |
| FeceMan07-11-06, 04:25 PM | I have a gut feeling the high str was achieved by stacking multiple enhancement str bonuses together....which shouldn't be the case by the RAW... "Okay, guys, I'm having the wizard cast Bull's Strength and Bear's Endurance on me, then he's going to permanency it. Then he'll do it again, and then I'll wear my amulet of health +6 and belt of giant's strength +6. Then maybe we'll do it again." :weep: |
| metamind07-12-06, 02:28 PM | It's a lvl 12 barbarrian and his str and con were obscenelyhigh, like 80 str and about 30-40 con. Looks like someone's been reading the char. op. boards while jacked on caffine... And your DM allows this... creature... in his campaigns? If my DM was like that, I'd be using my spellsword again. I miss my spellsword so :censored:ing much *sigh*. Entire campaigns would dissapear with one epic spell. I kinda like your character. Reminds me of my old one. If only I could play him one last time. There are uber dragon gods that need slaughtering! -Lord Metamind |
| Zheon07-12-06, 04:09 PM | i've heard of characters flipping a coin on who gets to rip the drawbridge off a castle wall, but seriously.. no way is this plausable. im guessing you were using several upgrades that in fact dont stack. like an ioun stone and the belt at the same time.. doesnt happen, kid. jeez, munchkins these days.. |
| Drausktanchache07-15-06, 07:02 PM | bad news is i never used anything that stacked. it was from like 10 different books, best things of each....jeez!!!! |
| FeceMan07-15-06, 09:36 PM | bad news is i never used anything that stacked. it was from like 10 different fifth-party crap/splat books, best things of each....jeez!!!! Fixed. |
| Drausktanchache07-15-06, 10:21 PM | they're just supplements, and tenth-party..get it right!!!!! |
| FeceMan07-16-06, 02:21 AM | Tell me, Drausktanchache: at what age did you realize that you enjoyed making baby Jesus cry? |
| Encard07-16-06, 04:12 AM | Ah, so this character used non-WotC books as well? I am no longer surprised, given some of the stuff I've seen printed. Oi. |
| Drausktanchache07-16-06, 04:15 AM | Tell me, Drausktanchache: at what age did you realize that you enjoyed making baby Jesus cry? 1...maybe 1 and a half... |
| Drausktanchache07-16-06, 04:17 AM | Ah, so this character used non-WotC books as well? I am no longer surprised, given some of the stuff I've seen printed. Oi. no it was the libris mortis, complete warrior, draconomican, races of dragon, phb, monster manual 3, dmg... |
| Count Arioch the 28th07-16-06, 12:56 PM | Why not post your character instead of trying to start a urinating contest with us? I call. Post your character, or we'll all know you're lying. |
| capnwoodrow07-16-06, 01:04 PM | I'm getting bogged down, so lemme see if I can sum this thread up: OP: "Hey everyone! I made this uberc00l zomgz0rz character who had like 80 str in my friends game. Look how cool I am!" Everyone: "Um, ok. Why should I care? But let's say I do care - how did you get it that high?" OP: "OMG! I'm not telling! Then you'll be zomgz0rz like me!!" Do you see where this is frustrating? |
| Drausktanchache07-16-06, 01:08 PM | i'll figure it out and post how i got it when i get back to all my books...withc my sheets inside |
| Encard07-16-06, 04:05 PM | i'll figure it out and post how i got it when i get back to all my books...withc my sheets inside All right, sounds like a plan. As I said, I am curious... |
| VerdugoExplode07-16-06, 04:32 PM | Here's my view on the current situation, and to make it more entertaining we'll pretend that we're on a submarine. Here's how I see the this situation coming along: "Captain, sonar is picking up clumps of self esteem up ahead, maybe even a little respect." "What? Madness! Dive, dive, dive!" "How far captain?" "As deep as we can go" 1 loud crunching sound later "Captain we appear to have become entrenched in something" "Quickly man, what is it!" "It appears to be an outcropping of overcompensation. Theres also large amounts of pity clogging up the engines, we're effectively stuck" "Don't worry, we'll be safe here, no one will dare mess with us!" Could have happened in any variety of nautical scenarios. |
| FeceMan07-16-06, 05:47 PM | Here's my view on the current situation, and to make it more entertaining we'll pretend that we're on a submarine. Here's how I see the this situation coming along: "Captain, sonar is picking up clumps of self esteem up ahead, maybe even a little respect." "What? Madness! Dive, dive, dive!" "How far captain?" "As deep as we can go" 1 loud crunching sound later "Captain we appear to have become entrenched in something" "Quickly man, what is it!" "It appears to be an outcropping of overcompensation. Theres also large amounts of pity clogging up the engines, we're effectively stuck" "Don't worry, we'll be safe here, no one will dare mess with us!" Could have happened in any variety of nautical scenarios. That is beyond awesome. I'd sig it, but I don't feel like adding anything else to mine. Someone else should sig it. |
| albinomonkeyking07-16-06, 09:22 PM | VerdugoExplode, you are my hero. I'm siging that. |
| FeceMan07-16-06, 11:19 PM | VerdugoExplode, you are my hero. I'm siging that. And the white ape saves the day. |
| Zheon07-16-06, 11:49 PM | Here's my view on the current situation, and to make it more entertaining we'll pretend that we're on a submarine. Here's how I see the this situation coming along: "Captain, sonar is picking up clumps of self esteem up ahead, maybe even a little respect." "What? Madness! Dive, dive, dive!" "How far captain?" "As deep as we can go" 1 loud crunching sound later "Captain we appear to have become entrenched in something" "Quickly man, what is it!" "It appears to be an outcropping of overcompensation. Theres also large amounts of pity clogging up the engines, we're effectively stuck" "Don't worry, we'll be safe here, no one will dare mess with us!" Could have happened in any variety of nautical scenarios. ..what can i say. sigged. |
| anarco_rata07-17-06, 02:19 AM | Oh, yes, I would love to see this character too... and then, the sound of self-steem and sense of acomplishment beign ripped appart by the merciless board members that make our posting fun, and scary. Like VerdugoExplode. |
| Encard07-17-06, 02:43 AM | Hehe, nice, very nice. I like. :P But, I suppose we'll see, if this thing ever does get posted... |
| Netmonmatt07-18-06, 11:23 AM | Tell me, Drausktanchache: at what age did you realize that you enjoyed making baby Jesus cry? Agh... dangit man, that made me choke. :D Seriously though, no it was the libris mortis, complete warrior, draconomican, races of dragon, phb, monster manual 3, dmg... So, you most likely added a Half-Dragon Template, piled on the Half-Dragon/Dragonblood feats, pulled some stuff from MM3 (probably another template, maybe the race, I try to avoid MM3 for what I may make), some CW feats (presumably Combat Brute, which I must say is EVIL. :D), and added some grafts. Whooboy. My DM would snipe that build before it got the foot in the door. :D |
| SokenzanMarauder07-18-06, 12:07 PM | Quick run over here using what’s been suggested throughout previous posts: Skull Crusher Ogre + 14 Str + 6 Con LA: +3 Half-Dragon + 8 Str + 2 Con LA: +3 Barbarian (12) + 3 Con (levels) Items: Girdle of Strength +6 Amulet of Health +6 Tome of Strength +5 Tome of Constitution +5 In total we’ve got: + 33 Str + 22 Con Assuming we’re using 18 for stats it comes to: 18 + 33 = 51 Str 18 + 22 = 40 Con Total level (after adjustments): 18th This is before any feats are taken and with no rage, also permanent versions of spells aren't included as their bonuses shouldn't be stacked and wishes are assumed to have not been used. Plus I’m sure there are items out there to increase con and I just haven’t seen them yet (edit: Found them. :D ). -Gene |
| runestar07-18-06, 12:44 PM | Note that the skullcrusher ogre also has 8 giant HD in addition to its LA of +3, for a total ECL of 11. ;) Forgot what its cr is though. :P |
| Netmonmatt07-18-06, 12:52 PM | Oh, I already know this guy borked LA. :P Also, Amulet of Health and... whatever adds that inherent bonus to Con. I forget. But man, this is way over the GP limit for his level. :D Edit: Aha, Tomes. Forgot the exact name. |
| SokenzanMarauder07-18-06, 01:14 PM | There, I edited my original post with the update. His con bonus basically just doubled all the way up to the supposed 40. Now all we need to get is that strength up. Of course with rage it'd be higher but I'm not gonna factor that in. Also, sorry for not noticing the Con+ items sooner, I should have but I'm not the most "char-op" savvy person. As this is my first attempt at making a totally deadly melee killing machine that's "within the rules," though I doubt any sane DM would allow this to be played. :p -Gene |
| Drausktanchache08-11-06, 05:55 PM | Sorry i've been away from the forums for a while and right now i'm in a different city than my books..it will get posted..and no it wasn't a half-dragon, my friend in the pasrty had something stronger too |
| Drausktanchache08-11-06, 05:57 PM | Here's my view on the current situation, and to make it more entertaining we'll pretend that we're on a submarine. Here's how I see the this situation coming along: "Captain, sonar is picking up clumps of self esteem up ahead, maybe even a little respect." "What? Madness! Dive, dive, dive!" "How far captain?" "As deep as we can go" 1 loud crunching sound later "Captain we appear to have become entrenched in something" "Quickly man, what is it!" "It appears to be an outcropping of overcompensation. Theres also large amounts of pity clogging up the engines, we're effectively stuck" "Don't worry, we'll be safe here, no one will dare mess with us!" Could have happened in any variety of nautical scenarios. This is beautiful, basically my friend and I wanted to see responses to this, thank you for making our day |
| Drausktanchache08-11-06, 06:00 PM | we aren'ty sane, and we have a fun time...it all works out but it boilsdown to it was way over the gp limit because of his town ransacking pastime, so really i mean it was basically dm's fault..but i think one of you has most of it down already... |
| Drausktanchache08-11-06, 06:05 PM | Quick run over here using what’s been suggested throughout previous posts: Skull Crusher Ogre + 14 Str + 6 Con LA: +3 Half-Dragon + 8 Str + 2 Con LA: +3 Barbarian (12) + 3 Con (levels) Items: Girdle of Strength +6 Amulet of Health +6 Tome of Strength +5 Tome of Constitution +5 In total we’ve got: + 33 Str + 22 Con Assuming we’re using 18 for stats it comes to: 18 + 33 = 51 Str 18 + 22 = 40 Con Total level (after adjustments): 18th This is before any feats are taken and with no rage, also permanent versions of spells aren't included as their bonuses shouldn't be stacked and wishes are assumed to have not been used. Plus I’m sure there are items out there to increase con and I just haven’t seen them yet (edit: Found them. :D ). -Gene There was some fruity and/or flakey house-item we found it was imbued into my greatsword, it gave like a +20 str, the DM had plenty of opposition for this though and in the end my barbarrian died...I HATE DEATHLESS FRENZY!!! -369 POINTS!!!! -369 FRICKING POINTS!!!!! there is no way to heal that... |
| KnaveofClubs08-12-06, 01:26 PM | And yet no one has mentioned Enlarge, which would add about 8 more str and 4 more con. Off the str build using the core rules I can achieve. Roll 18+14(racial)+5(inherent-the Manuals and wishes don't stack)+6(Enhancement-Belt)+8(Enlarge+perme)+6(greater rage)+3(character level) and I get 60. This doesn't include applicable luck bonuses, competence bonuses, and the many various unnamed bonuses that appear every once in awhile. All these can be found throughout the many supplements. That is why I keep my players sticking to the core, less munchkins, more having to think of creative ways to create builds with what you have. |
| SokenzanMarauder08-12-06, 01:30 PM | And yet no one has mentioned Enlarge, which would add about 8 more str and 4 more con. Off the str build using the core rules I can achieve. Roll 18+14(racial)+5(inherent-the Manuals and wishes don't stack)+6(Enhancement-Belt)+8(Enlarge+perme)+6(greater rage)+3(character level) and I get 60. This doesn't include applicable luck bonuses, competence bonuses, and the many various unnamed bonuses that appear every once in awhile. All these can be found throughout the many supplements. That is why I keep my players sticking to the core, less munchkins, more having to think of creative ways to create builds with what you have. Check out my above post, I went into detail with all the bonuses and non-epic items for him. I didn't use spells of any kind though. And, as he says, he has a +20 str greatsword so his str is now 71 I guess. Edit: Though, assuming that the str bonus from the greatsword is an enhancement bonus, his strength would only be 65. My error. -Gene |