fighting undead with arcane spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

fighting undead with arcane spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

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JasonC779
07-26-07, 10:51 PM Ok I have a level 17 wizard (actually a wiz/beguiler/ultimate magus/incantatrix) and we are playing an adventure in which we will be fighting many undead, then a very powerful dracolich. I am looking for some input on the best spells to use against undead. Illusion is my prohibited school, and I have access to 8th level spells. I have PHB, Complete Arcane, Magic of Faerun, Spell Compendium, Complete Mage, and Libris Mortis.
Thanks!
Krusk
07-26-07, 11:21 PM command undead is very very useful.

I like fireball because some undead take extra from it, and most are not immune.

Magic missile is good for incorperal undead.
Terraneaux
07-27-07, 12:19 AM Disintegrate has the nickname of "superior disrupt undead" around my gaming group due to its efficacy at killing them. Unlike most fort save effects, it actually affects undead, which have a hard time passing the save due to their poor fort save and lack of a constitution bonus.

You aren't playing "Into the Wyrmcrawl Fissure" by any chance?

Also check out "Black Blade of Disaster" and "Sphere of Ultimate Destruction" out of the Spell Compendium.
KillerGM
07-27-07, 12:33 AM Disintegrate has the nickname of "superior disrupt undead" around my gaming group due to its efficacy at killing them. Unlike most fort save effects, it actually affects undead, which have a hard time passing the save due to their poor fort save and lack of a constitution bonus.

Disintegrate is win.. :D
Yokomohoyo
07-27-07, 01:31 AM Since your up against a Draco Lich Im preaty sure you'll need anti magic field to suppress anything it may cast at you.
JasonC779
07-29-07, 02:38 PM Actually we're playing Age of Worms....

Ok thanks for the tip on disintigrate! Any others you can think of?
elporko
07-29-07, 03:22 PM Resonating bolt is a great low level spell for messing up undead- as it is a fort save that effects objects.

Undeath to Death is okay for dealing with lower powered minions who rely on swarm tactics

And yes, all of the disintegrate type spells are very nice.
RobTzu
07-29-07, 03:51 PM Wall of fire works well. It is a good bit of crowd control that does double damage vs undead. Perfect for mindless critters. And only a level 4, so you can save higher spots for some real good hitters.
Talisman
07-30-07, 12:27 AM Orb of force (Complete Arcane) is good for those nasty incorporeals.
Wall of fire, disintegrate, fireball and magic missile are all must-haves. Especially disintegrate. Lovely, lovely disintegrate... :drool:

If you can get your paws on a copy of the Book of Exalted Deeds, you might consider taking the Purify Spell feat at 18th level (assuming you have a mostly-good party). It bumps it by +1 level, but purified spells do not harm good creatures...awesome for when the melee masters are tying down the boss monsters.
kelvinaw273
07-30-07, 12:19 PM Basically, pour on the raw destruction spells. Check what kind of dracolich though, as a dracolich of a red dragon will laugh at fire. A few protective spells wouldn't hurt to keep things at bay as well ...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
JasonC779 07-26-07, 10:51 PM	Ok I have a level 17 wizard (actually a wiz/beguiler/ultimate magus/incantatrix) and we are playing an adventure in which we will be fighting many undead, then a very powerful dracolich. I am looking for some input on the best spells to use against undead. Illusion is my prohibited school, and I have access to 8th level spells. I have PHB, Complete Arcane, Magic of Faerun, Spell Compendium, Complete Mage, and Libris Mortis. Thanks!
Krusk 07-26-07, 11:21 PM	command undead is very very useful. I like fireball because some undead take extra from it, and most are not immune. Magic missile is good for incorperal undead.
Terraneaux 07-27-07, 12:19 AM	Disintegrate has the nickname of "superior disrupt undead" around my gaming group due to its efficacy at killing them. Unlike most fort save effects, it actually affects undead, which have a hard time passing the save due to their poor fort save and lack of a constitution bonus. You aren't playing "Into the Wyrmcrawl Fissure" by any chance? Also check out "Black Blade of Disaster" and "Sphere of Ultimate Destruction" out of the Spell Compendium.
KillerGM 07-27-07, 12:33 AM	Disintegrate has the nickname of "superior disrupt undead" around my gaming group due to its efficacy at killing them. Unlike most fort save effects, it actually affects undead, which have a hard time passing the save due to their poor fort save and lack of a constitution bonus. Disintegrate is win.. :D
Yokomohoyo 07-27-07, 01:31 AM	Since your up against a Draco Lich Im preaty sure you'll need anti magic field to suppress anything it may cast at you.
JasonC779 07-29-07, 02:38 PM	Actually we're playing Age of Worms.... Ok thanks for the tip on disintigrate! Any others you can think of?
elporko 07-29-07, 03:22 PM	Resonating bolt is a great low level spell for messing up undead- as it is a fort save that effects objects. Undeath to Death is okay for dealing with lower powered minions who rely on swarm tactics And yes, all of the disintegrate type spells are very nice.
RobTzu 07-29-07, 03:51 PM	Wall of fire works well. It is a good bit of crowd control that does double damage vs undead. Perfect for mindless critters. And only a level 4, so you can save higher spots for some real good hitters.
Talisman 07-30-07, 12:27 AM	Orb of force (Complete Arcane) is good for those nasty incorporeals. Wall of fire, disintegrate, fireball and magic missile are all must-haves. Especially disintegrate. Lovely, lovely disintegrate... :drool: If you can get your paws on a copy of the Book of Exalted Deeds, you might consider taking the Purify Spell feat at 18th level (assuming you have a mostly-good party). It bumps it by +1 level, but purified spells do not harm good creatures...awesome for when the melee masters are tying down the boss monsters.
kelvinaw273 07-30-07, 12:19 PM	Basically, pour on the raw destruction spells. Check what kind of dracolich though, as a dracolich of a red dragon will laugh at fire. A few protective spells wouldn't hurt to keep things at bay as well ...