Gestalt Rogue/Ninja [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gestalt Rogue/Ninja [Archive] - Wizards Community

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R.I.P GMFGD
10-25-06, 11:36 PM Hi i am playing a Gestalt Rogue/Ninja....my question is that our monk choose improved trip on the attack of oppurtunity...do i get both my sudden strike and sneak attack bonus damage? So far the problem has never come up i have been playing my character as a deceptive person who doesnt want ppl to know i am a ninja do to a bad stigma the class has within the world...so i tend not to use the sudden strike ability but use the sneak attack all the time flanking. But i do use the ninja abilities when i scout and infiltrate. But now with the trips, I think that i would get both the sneak attack and sudden strike on the attack of opportunity do to the fact the target loses his dex bonus. Any ideas would be interested in hearing.
TheChilliGod
10-25-06, 11:43 PM The target looses his dex bonus to AC if he's tripped?

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No, he doesn't. False Alarm.

Since the enemy still retains his dexterity bonus to AC if he's tripped (although melee attacks are at +4 to hit against prone people, but that's not good enough), you don't get to Sudden Strike him, nor Sneak Attack the enemy unless you're flanking.

But he's arbitrarily easier to hit, at least.
Orchomenos
10-26-06, 11:59 AM The target looses his dex bonus to AC if he's tripped?

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No, he doesn't. False Alarm.

However, if the monk is able to Stun the foe, then he looses his dex bonus to AC, and you can use Sudden Strike in addition to Sneak Attack. Sure, it's a lot of d6 of damages, but the PCs and NPCs don't see that, they just see that the target seems in really bad shape after you stroke him. You can just pretend it was a really lucky blow, or that the target was weaker than you thought.
SunTzuWarmaster
10-27-06, 09:01 AM Simply role-play it. "Using sudden strike and sneak attack, I'm going to take a quick blow to the enemy's neck"
The characters don't say "he stabbed him in the neck, he must be a ninja!", instead they say "by Pelor, you damn near felled the beast with that blow"
and you simply respond with: "knowing where to hit is half the kill"

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
R.I.P GMFGD 10-25-06, 11:36 PM	Hi i am playing a Gestalt Rogue/Ninja....my question is that our monk choose improved trip on the attack of oppurtunity...do i get both my sudden strike and sneak attack bonus damage? So far the problem has never come up i have been playing my character as a deceptive person who doesnt want ppl to know i am a ninja do to a bad stigma the class has within the world...so i tend not to use the sudden strike ability but use the sneak attack all the time flanking. But i do use the ninja abilities when i scout and infiltrate. But now with the trips, I think that i would get both the sneak attack and sudden strike on the attack of opportunity do to the fact the target loses his dex bonus. Any ideas would be interested in hearing.
TheChilliGod 10-25-06, 11:43 PM	The target looses his dex bonus to AC if he's tripped? ... No, he doesn't. False Alarm. Since the enemy still retains his dexterity bonus to AC if he's tripped (although melee attacks are at +4 to hit against prone people, but that's not good enough), you don't get to Sudden Strike him, nor Sneak Attack the enemy unless you're flanking. But he's arbitrarily easier to hit, at least.
Orchomenos 10-26-06, 11:59 AM	The target looses his dex bonus to AC if he's tripped? ... No, he doesn't. False Alarm. However, if the monk is able to Stun the foe, then he looses his dex bonus to AC, and you can use Sudden Strike in addition to Sneak Attack. Sure, it's a lot of d6 of damages, but the PCs and NPCs don't see that, they just see that the target seems in really bad shape after you stroke him. You can just pretend it was a really lucky blow, or that the target was weaker than you thought.
SunTzuWarmaster 10-27-06, 09:01 AM	Simply role-play it. "Using sudden strike and sneak attack, I'm going to take a quick blow to the enemy's neck" The characters don't say "he stabbed him in the neck, he must be a ninja!", instead they say "by Pelor, you damn near felled the beast with that blow" and you simply respond with: "knowing where to hit is half the kill"