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Melfina the Blue 08-15-04, 03:04 PM	I'm playing a NG wizard(1)/druid(2). One of the other party members is an evil cleric(2)/wizard(2). He is more powerful than my character (she knows that). Given that she is a wild elf without much exp with other races or adventuring, she has not been a member of this group for very long, and that she is rather easygoing in general, what actions of his is she likely to object to? He's already taken control of some undead, which she attacked and killed. There is another druid in the party, and so far she's been taking her cues from him, but he is true neutral. I have no experience with dealing with evil PCs, or playing good PCs, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
MyrddynsRose 08-15-04, 04:34 PM	My DM does not allow evil PCs, but the whole undead thing would cause me to get scrappy with the cleric. Roleplaying your character in one sense should be easy. He is evil, you are good. There is very little he can do that will not offend you. Your elf should be nagging him about his motives constantly, since she is inexperienced with other races. There should come a time soon that the elf, weaker or not, should stand up to him and do what all good characters do to evil ones.
Cymraegmorgan 08-15-04, 11:47 PM	Dump the evil cleric. Evil and Good, oil and water, nitro and glycerine. See the trend in bad mixing ideas?
Mitchell 08-16-04, 03:49 AM	Without turning this into an(other) alignment debate, you pretty much need to do something. 1) Confront the evil character directly. Maybe you die, maybe you don't. Are you level adjusted? What about the evil one? If you are a wizard, you could always try to use a sleep spell on them, and then just coup de grace them. 2) Ask the neutral druid for help, then confront the evil one. Two against one is better odds, and a neutral druid may recognize the problems that a powerful evil druid could create. This is an easier sell if evil is dominant in your world, as the dictates of a "cosmic" neutrality would be to bring good and evil back into balance. 3) Ditch them in their time of need. If they find themselves facing something that they may well need your help with, then just leave them and let it do the deed. If they both die, then you can decide whether the "neutral" druid should be raised or whatever. My vote is no. 4) Are there just the three of you? Any more members can be enlisted to your cause and possibly shift the balance in your favor. I can feel for you. I just spent a couple of weeks working up a paladin, only to show up at the game and realize that my paladin will attempt to finish the adventure and bail. The party is way too chaotic greedy for me. I guess I should have known, but I was hoping to be a light to show them the way, that if they would follow my lead, they would learn a whole other aspect of the game. Even the allegedly good cleric was wanting a piece of the hack/slash/loot action. I'm sure someone will argue, but my experience has been that anyone who makes an evil character for what is supposed to be a "good" game is selfish, and just have to be special. If you want to destroy the game, just ditch your character and make a new one who can kill theirs. They may get angry and make a new one to destroy yours, etc. At this point, you can explain to your DM that you would rather play a miniatures game if this is what the game is going to be like. Hopefully they will reload with some ground rules, and hopefully the formerly evil player won't decide to use the neutral excuse to be a jerk. Good luck.
Bloodtide_the_Red 08-16-04, 04:42 AM	You need to set down what is good and evil for your character. You need to get away from the vague 'good and evil'. Try to fit it to your character personaly, not create a cosmic dogma. A wild elf from some remote wild area will have a bit of a diffrent view of good then say a preist in a city. For example a wild elf could think it's evil to kill a tree to make a house, but the city guy would have no problem with that act. Or it's wrong to kill someone for stealing from you, if all they take is gold coins...while stealing is wrong, bits of metal should not be of equal value to a life. Guess you need to remember that your not a super good guy(All life has value and you should never ever kill an intelligent creature unless you have no other choice), but more subjective good(the goblins are evil so I can kill them). Your good and evil would be based a bit more on nature...and nature is not exactly good or evil. BT