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| Calaheardof11-24-04, 12:12 AM | I just don't know what to say. He is one of the best DMs I have played with and he just started a new campaign I but he has canceled three sessions so far so he can play that game. He also as said to me that he wants to reduce how often we play so he can play that game more. I don't think he wants to stop DMing so he can play but if definitely more concerned with that game than anything else. We have an adventure tomorrow. I will post to tell you if he canceled and if he didn't how it went. Hopefully the game hasn't affected his ability to DM but he says he hasn't really worked on the adventure much because he is always playing. |
| The_other11-24-04, 12:29 AM | That is pure bull. I mean canceling a game for family matters is one thing, but canceling because of a stupid video game? Beat him in the head with the Players Handbook cause we all know every great player has the feat Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Players Handbook) DnD is all about commitment to the game and players you game with. But don't go fanatical about it and sacrifice him with a blade encrusted with goat blood cause the authorities never see reason. You can't put off DnD with your friends just to play a game you own and can play anytime you want. Especially the DM since with the DM there is no game. |
| BlueFlames11-24-04, 12:41 AM | It's quite simple really... Get yourself a pair of bolt-cutters and march on over to your DM's house/apartment. Find his incoming phone/cable line. Snip your DM's EverCrack umbilical cord. Alternatively, you can get the bolt cutters, go to your DM's place, and rigorously apply the bolt-cutters to his computer, monitor, skull, or whatever else tickles your fancy, but he might see you coming and press charges later. Seriously, I occasionally have the same problem with my DM and Halo 2 or Warcraft 3's beta. A really effective way to deal with it is get all the players in your group calling him in sequence, asking to play. Usually, he'll get the point or get annoyed and say yes. It gets tricky when he leaves town, but he doesn't do that often, so I haven't much advice for that situation. |
| DrMorganes11-24-04, 01:21 AM | That is pure bull. I mean canceling a game for family matters is one thing, but canceling because of a stupid video game? I take it then that you've never actually played EQ? It's definitely the sort of game that folks with addictive personalities need to avoid. Fun, definitely, especially once you make some friends, but it's one helluva time sink. They don't call it "EverCrack" and "NeverRest" for nothing... ;) |
| Lord_Anthrax11-24-04, 06:44 AM | Well, I can certainly understand a DM's desire to have a little 'me' time. It takes a fair amount of time and energy to plan and prepare adventures, and that eats up creativity. Taking a break and playing something instead of running it is cathartic, gives your batteries some time to recharge. Give him a little time and see if he comes back around to it. If he keeps dropping away even more, collect your fellow players and explain that you really want to game some more. Failing that, a nice powerful magnet is your friend... ;) |
| the_fools_wildhunt11-24-04, 10:18 AM | 1: Buy game yourself and meet him online. 2: Make a cleric and offer to join as a party. 3: Find big nasty monster, encourage him to fight it and you will heal him. 4: Watch him die. Say you were lagging and could not help/ 5: Start at 2 again. Eventually he will rack up such a big experience debt he will throw the mouse, punch the screen and go let off steam at poor unfortunate players by running a game. Its a good and bad solution, but at least you are playing. |
| Stuntman11-24-04, 12:10 PM | Hey, guys. Let's not forget that D&D is just a game too. I know that my interest in D&D and other games waxes and wanes over time. I've played off and on since I started in the 80's. Over that time, my interest in D&D varies. Sometimes I lose interest because I just need a break, sometimes it is because of another game/hobbie (hockey, MtG, BFG). I have been a DM and I know that if start to lose interest in D&D for whatever reason, my game and my players suffer. I'd rather not play or play less often than run a bad sessions for my players. Sometimes taking a break or just simply playing less often will be good for everyone. I understand that the game cannot continue without a DM, but D&D is a game/hobby. It is not top priority for many people. Getting the same group of people together on a regular ongoing basis is difficult because most people have interests and priorities outside of D&D. I would enjoy the times you can get together to play and if you cannot, I'm sure people have other activities they could do when one or some people in the group cannot or choose not to play. |
| Wil Harvey11-24-04, 12:19 PM | Bah. I had a good friend who me and my best friend would hang out with all the time. Then he found EverQuest. We barely see him once a week now, and when we do, all he really talks about is EverQuest. If I hear about his 60th level ranger once more... And the crazy thing is he lives with his girlfriend. And she's very hot and very much not a gamer. How he balances things with her amazes me. The guy should publish his secrets. |
| ShadowDragon868511-24-04, 12:22 PM | 1: Buy game yourself and meet him online. 2: Make a cleric and offer to join as a party. 3: Find big nasty monster, encourage him to fight it and you will heal him. 4: Watch him die. Say you were lagging and could not help/ 5: Start at 2 again. Eventually he will rack up such a big experience debt he will throw the mouse, punch the screen and go let off steam at poor unfortunate players by running a game. Its a good and bad solution, but at least you are playing. This is a VERY bad soloution. frustrated beyond rage DMs tend to create TPKs. But go ahead and try it if you want to. I'd love to hear how it turns out. :rolleyes: |
| the_fools_wildhunt11-24-04, 12:30 PM | This is a VERY bad soloution. frustrated beyond rage DMs tend to create TPKs. But go ahead and try it if you want to. I'd love to hear how it turns out. :rolleyes: Hey, I did say good and bad, not perfect. Anyway, character creation is part of playing D&D even if you have to do it multiple times a session. :P |
| Neerie11-24-04, 04:02 PM | Well, perhaps one of you could think of becomming a DM himself and start another campaign. |
| Feriin11-24-04, 04:10 PM | Bah. I had a good friend who me and my best friend would hang out with all the time. Then he found EverQuest. We barely see him once a week now, and when we do, all he really talks about is EverQuest. If I hear about his 60th level ranger once more... And the crazy thing is he lives with his girlfriend. And she's very hot and very much not a gamer. How he balances things with her amazes me. The guy should publish his secrets. Well concidering that the level limit in Everquest is 70 now and he is only 60. I am willing to bet he does not play often. Maybe an hour a day on the week days and maybe 3 or 4 hours each day on weekends. (In other words he probably plays when his girlfriend is at work, or when she wants to visit her friends) As for dming and playing EQ/EQII well it is pretty easy. I log in and play for about 2 hours a day. I write down notes for D&D then after I am done with EQ I work about 2 hours on D&D with my notes. So altogether I spend about 4 hours a day on games and the rest is free for work/relationships/other stuff. |
| Wil Harvey11-24-04, 05:04 PM | Well concidering that the level limit in Everquest is 70 now and he is only 60. I am willing to bet he does not play often. Maybe an hour a day on the week days and maybe 3 or 4 hours each day on weekends. (In other words he probably plays when his girlfriend is at work, or when she wants to visit her friends) Wow. Never thought anyone would try and analyze that post of mine. 1.) He plays EverQuest: Frontiers on the PS2 which has a level cap of 60. 2.) He has two level 60 characters as well as another around level 30. Not sure about that one, because by the time someone is detailing their third character in a game you don't care for, one tends to start smiling, nodding, and thinking about other things. (In other words, don't try and think you know more about my buddies than I do.) |
| Neerie11-24-04, 05:30 PM | (In other words, don't try and think you know more about my buddies than I do.) Down boy. He was not saying he knew how your friend was doing it, he made an hypothesis from the information you provided. |
| Wil Harvey11-24-04, 05:46 PM | Down boy. He was not saying he knew how your friend was doing it, he made an hypothesis from the information you provided. In my opinion, when someone offers up unsolicitied comments designed to supercede (or even supplement) the knowledge the person they are talking to would have of their own friends, they are being a tad bit rude. I'm not angry or vindictive about this. I'm just telling him not to do it. Pure and simple. :cool: |
| Kadasbrass11-24-04, 05:54 PM | Ok first off, I would just let him play it for an while. Sooner or later he will start balaning his time better. It just when someone buys something new they usually spent more time on that object for a period of time then normal. Also if you ignore him for awhile you might make him feel guilty for spending so much time on EQII and have him come back around. That is pure bull. I mean canceling a game for family matters is one thing, but canceling because of a stupid video game? Beat him in the head with the Players Handbook cause we all know every great player has the feat Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Players Handbook) DnD is all about commitment to the game and players you game with. But don't go fanatical about it and sacrifice him with a blade encrusted with goat blood cause the authorities never see reason. You can't put off DnD with your friends just to play a game you own and can play anytime you want. Especially the DM since with the DM there is no game. Indeed you have never played EQ before, and saying its nonesense to cancle one game because of another is no different then stove calling the kettle black. EQ is very addicting, the problem is alot of people play it and treat it like a job, where the more they work the more you get, and they start viewing everything in opportunity cost. I also bet that when he tells his friends on EQ that he going to call it a night and play DnD they say the same things about him leaving. It is one thing to play a game, and another to live it. I take it then that you've never actually played EQ? It's definitely the sort of game that folks with addictive personalities need to avoid. Fun, definitely, especially once you make some friends, but it's one helluva time sink. They don't call it "EverCrack" and "NeverRest" for nothing... ;) Oh I've never heard it called 'NeverRest' during my 'tour of duty', I like that title now. |
| Crunchy Frog11-25-04, 09:28 PM | Well, perhaps one of you could think of becomming a DM himself and start another campaign. This is always, always, an appropriate response to having a DM that you don't like for some reason. |
| Count Arioch the 28th11-25-04, 09:43 PM | If the man doesn't want to DM anymore, that's his business. If you want to play, then I suggest pick a new DM, and go from there. These things happen at times. |
| edgelett11-25-04, 11:06 PM | Anyway, character creation is part of playing D&D even if you have to do it multiple times a session. :P I'm going to remember you said that, wildhunt! Back to the topic - solution is simple.....give him a virus! |
| Feriin11-26-04, 03:18 PM | Wow. Never thought anyone would try and analyze that post of mine. 1.) He plays EverQuest: Frontiers on the PS2 which has a level cap of 60. 2.) He has two level 60 characters as well as another around level 30. Not sure about that one, because by the time someone is detailing their third character in a game you don't care for, one tends to start smiling, nodding, and thinking about other things. (In other words, don't try and think you know more about my buddies than I do.) Wow. Looking back at the topic of the thread,"Help! My DM is addicted to EQII!." one might think that this topic was about EQII and DMing. That PS2 abomination is extremely easy and takes even less time to play. All of the times I listed above cut them in 1/2. I do not know what bug crawled up your ass, but remove it. I was giving the Info on what I do as a DM. Thus possibly giving you an idea of suggestions for your DM/Friend. |
| UltimateReality11-26-04, 06:20 PM | Bah. I had a good friend who me and my best friend would hang out with all the time. Then he found EverQuest. We barely see him once a week now, and when we do, all he really talks about is EverQuest. This sounds like one player in our group, only replace EQ with Neverwinter Nights. If I have to hear about his rogue one more time...or some clan boss pseudo-political stuff...or anything about endbosses he and some dude fought...I'm seriously gonna spazz out on him. :behold: (Side note: where'd the twitchy smiley go? :( We had one...) by the time someone is detailing their third character in a game you don't care for, one tends to start smiling, nodding, and thinking about other things. I once carried on a conversation (if you can call it that) with this guy for 20 minutes straight. My part consisted of "Yeah? Uh-huh. That's cool. Sweet! Mm-hmm..." maybe every minute or so. At first I couldn't believe he didn't even notice I was just on repeat. I guess some people really get into their game. o.O And the crazy thing is he lives with his girlfriend. And she's very hot and very much not a gamer. How he balances things with her amazes me. The guy should publish his secrets. As someone else stated, he probably does do it more when she's not around. She may not care either -- without knowing more of the personalities involved, I have no idea. For my NWN friend, I know his live-in gf is too busy taking care of the kid, working, and getting away from all of that with her friends to really care that he's spending time on a game instead of with her. (They don't have the best relationship, obviously. But whatever works for them...*shrug*) To the OP: Get the group together and explain your collective concerns to the DM. Ask him if he would like to take a break from DMing, maybe let someone else do it for awhile. I've seen DMs suffer burnout before, and sometimes they feel beholden to finish that adventure/campaign for their group. Just ask him in a non-confrontational manner, and make it clear you won't throw a hissy fit if he needs/wants a break. |
| Ssussunriyh11-26-04, 06:59 PM | I tried EQ, and by the time I had barely begun to get the hang of the controls and commands (but still couldn't fight very well), my computer began having software conflicts and wouldn't run the damn game - even though I had the bleeping computer specifically built to the specs listed in the game pack! I was seriously P.O.ed, and I canceled my subscription to SOE. And good riddance, too. BTW, anybody wanna buy an EQ Gold Edition game pack? Barely used, I'll let it go cheap, the box is just gathering dust on my shelf. |
| Dreaming_in_the_void11-26-04, 07:47 PM | Ah, EQ. At the same time an addiction and an academy for powergaming munchkinism. I played. I left. Don't much miss it except for a few folks that were fun to group with. As with all things, your DM will either grow tired of the game or become one of those folks that never leaves thier house. Up to you who DMs until then. |