Help with theurge [Archive] - Wizards Community

Help with theurge [Archive] - Wizards Community

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deftone
03-23-04, 05:56 PM Guys i want to know.. how convenient is making a mystic theurge... and if it its convenient... can u give me some pointers on making this new character...

all the party is lvl 6
well here is what i have to work with...

Stats: 16,12,11,10,17,12
iplusthe extra 4th level stat point...

im human and i have like 20k gold to spend..
so can u help me build this new char...

i wanna focus more on magical suport cus i have another pc .. a monk.. so i have mele and magic now... but i want to make a GREAT character with this theurge

hmm let me see what else... right now i have
a bone armor 3 AC 4 dex
natural armor 1 (amulet)
i have 2 ioun stones
Pale lavender (absorbs 1-4 level spells)
Scarlet and blue stone 2 int
periapt of health
and a +2 crossbow
(this stuff belongs to a wizard the party killed in which i got killed also and as a compensation the party will give me the wizards items.. jejeje )

so i need some pointers on stat arrangement
feats
domains and schools to choose... you are the experts.. ( jajaja i feel like in a make over show)

can u help me out .. thanks in advance.
wdarkk
03-23-04, 06:11 PM The most HORRIBLE AND ABUSIVE thing I can think of is to combine the Mystic Theurge and the True Necromancer (TaB). Your caster level will be off the scale (although the DM will probably kill you for this, or Rule Zero it).
deftone
03-23-04, 06:20 PM then what do you recomend me to do?

level progression
schools, domains feats..
items
wdarkk
03-23-04, 06:50 PM Necromancy specialization (if any, it's not required), Death Domain, Nongood Alignment (I'd recommend LN, especially in FR), patron deity must not be good and must not forbid the creation of undead, Vampiric Touch must be among spells known.

Levels would go something like: Wizard 3 Cleric 3 MyTh 2 TN 1 MyTH 8 and finish however you like.

Obviously put the two best scores into INT and WIS.

Oh, and clear this with your DM first. Having a caster level of well over 20 on your Necromancy/Death spells might peeve them somewhat.
Felgraf2
03-23-04, 07:17 PM In choosing the mystic theurge, know that you will be sacrificing Power for Flexibility. You will be at least one spell level lower than if you had gone straight one way or the other, but you will also have many more spells per day, and access to a wider variety of spells.

I personally suggest you put that 17 and 16 into your two primary casting stats: So Int. and Wis. if you're going Wizard/Something, and Cha. and Wis if you're going Sorc Something.) Bear in mind that the Sorcerer has to be level 4 to cast 2nd level spells, for some inexplicable reasion.

If you're going to go Wizard Cleric or Wizard/Druid, a Ring of Wizardy might be a nice choice just to give you even *more* spell slots.
Addi83
03-24-04, 07:27 AM Ring of wizardry always used to work for sorcerers also didn't it?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
deftone 03-23-04, 05:56 PM	Guys i want to know.. how convenient is making a mystic theurge... and if it its convenient... can u give me some pointers on making this new character... all the party is lvl 6 well here is what i have to work with... Stats: 16,12,11,10,17,12 iplusthe extra 4th level stat point... im human and i have like 20k gold to spend.. so can u help me build this new char... i wanna focus more on magical suport cus i have another pc .. a monk.. so i have mele and magic now... but i want to make a GREAT character with this theurge hmm let me see what else... right now i have a bone armor 3 AC 4 dex natural armor 1 (amulet) i have 2 ioun stones Pale lavender (absorbs 1-4 level spells) Scarlet and blue stone 2 int periapt of health and a +2 crossbow (this stuff belongs to a wizard the party killed in which i got killed also and as a compensation the party will give me the wizards items.. jejeje ) so i need some pointers on stat arrangement feats domains and schools to choose... you are the experts.. ( jajaja i feel like in a make over show) can u help me out .. thanks in advance.
wdarkk 03-23-04, 06:11 PM	The most HORRIBLE AND ABUSIVE thing I can think of is to combine the Mystic Theurge and the True Necromancer (TaB). Your caster level will be off the scale (although the DM will probably kill you for this, or Rule Zero it).
deftone 03-23-04, 06:20 PM	then what do you recomend me to do? level progression schools, domains feats.. items
wdarkk 03-23-04, 06:50 PM	Necromancy specialization (if any, it's not required), Death Domain, Nongood Alignment (I'd recommend LN, especially in FR), patron deity must not be good and must not forbid the creation of undead, Vampiric Touch must be among spells known. Levels would go something like: Wizard 3 Cleric 3 MyTh 2 TN 1 MyTH 8 and finish however you like. Obviously put the two best scores into INT and WIS. Oh, and clear this with your DM first. Having a caster level of well over 20 on your Necromancy/Death spells might peeve them somewhat.
Felgraf2 03-23-04, 07:17 PM	In choosing the mystic theurge, know that you will be sacrificing Power for Flexibility. You will be at least one spell level lower than if you had gone straight one way or the other, but you will also have many more spells per day, and access to a wider variety of spells. I personally suggest you put that 17 and 16 into your two primary casting stats: So Int. and Wis. if you're going Wizard/Something, and Cha. and Wis if you're going Sorc Something.) Bear in mind that the Sorcerer has to be level 4 to cast 2nd level spells, for some inexplicable reasion. If you're going to go Wizard Cleric or Wizard/Druid, a Ring of Wizardy might be a nice choice just to give you even more spell slots.
Addi83 03-24-04, 07:27 AM	Ring of wizardry always used to work for sorcerers also didn't it?