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±Ðiaߣo_ßastee£e± 04-23-04, 09:50 PM	Pretty much what title says, how do you gain divine ranks? Does it have something to do with alot of people wanting you to raise to the level of godhood? (leadership?)
Veton 04-23-04, 09:56 PM	It's really up to your DM to decide how it can be done.
Edymnion 04-23-04, 11:26 PM	Originally posted by ��iaߣo_�astee�e� Pretty much what title says, how do you gain divine ranks? Does it have something to do with alot of people wanting you to raise to the level of godhood? (leadership?) You ask your DM, because its impossible to do with the general rules. Becoming a god simply isn't something the game is designed to do. And you do realize that becoming a god will most likely be the end of your character, right? No DM in his right mind is going to let you play a god in a campaign full of normal mortal characters. Ascending to godhood essentially means "Okay, I'm done playing this character now, you can have it as an NPC."
±Ðiaߣo_ßastee£e± 04-24-04, 12:11 AM	oh yea, i just thought itd be a cool kinda "go out with a bang kinda thing" after all im only lvl 11 right now. Just planning ahead mostly. Just picked up leadership a few lvls ago and hoping to get a Blue for a cohort.
mtgoracle 04-24-04, 12:25 AM	Originally posted by Edymnion You ask your DM, because its impossible to do with the general rules. Becoming a god simply isn't something the game is designed to do. And you do realize that becoming a god will most likely be the end of your character, right? No DM in his right mind is going to let you play a god in a campaign full of normal mortal characters. Ascending to godhood essentially means "Okay, I'm done playing this character now, you can have it as an NPC." Not really. A good DM can still make adventures for gods, typically dealing with other gods, and other super threats. Although you do have a point. As a god you can virtually deal with any mortal. In fact, as long as you don't instantly become some sort of uberdiety and get divine ranks slowly, there's no reason why a DM can't find good challenges for you.
Edymnion 04-24-04, 01:51 PM	Originally posted by ±Ðiaߣo_ßastee£e± oh yea, i just thought itd be a cool kinda "go out with a bang kinda thing" after all im only lvl 11 right now. Just planning ahead mostly. Yeah, thats how I'm hoping to have my current character go out. She's a sorceress with a theme of storms and lightning, and a devout follower of Selûne (its a Faerun game). We're planning on, eventually, having her team up with Selûne for the final assault on Shar. If we can take the greater goddess down, my character's reward will be to ascend to become a minor storm deity. I realize that the game CAN continue after becoming a deity (especially if you parse the divine ranks out slowly so you climb in power), its just that its often VERY difficult to explain how the entire party becomes gods at roughly the same time. Really sucks for the other players when one person gets to play a god and the rest are stuck playing mortals (even very powerful mortals). But yeah, tell your DM what you want to do, and see if you can work something out. As long as you are going to give the character up as an NPC, there's nothing unbalancing about becoming a god, so its more of a matter of working it into the story than trying to make it fair to everybody else.
Braekor Dragonfang 04-24-04, 06:35 PM	Get a scroll of Wish Wish for ten more scrolls of Wish Use the first two to wish for epic level fanatical followers Use the second two to have gods made your permenant thralls Use the next one to wish for a divine rank Have the thralled dieties give you all of their divine power You are now a greater god with five extra scrolls of wish and a horde of epic fanatical followers
green_yawgmoth 04-25-04, 03:50 PM	HAHAHAHAHAHA you're kidding, right? Because I can think of a thousand ways to skull**** each of those wishes. Wishing for godhood; that's rich.
Derren S. 04-25-04, 03:53 PM	12th level Dragon Ascendant! Of course you have to become a true dragon first, but that shouldn't be that hard, or?
Daybreaker 04-26-04, 02:29 AM	I don't think that a game has to end with the ascension to godhood of some or all of the party. I've had it happen in a couple of campaigns, and though you do find a certain degree of stratification does occur, the characters are hardly out of the game. They just don't do the same stuff anymore. I had a character who became the God of Freedom. He now has a church with a lot of Divine Liberators running around spreading Chaotic Good values all over the place. He now tends to be the guy who sends other parties out on quests, and takes a personal hand whenever the situation is sort of cosmic in scope.
Naeron 04-26-04, 07:06 AM	Probably the first step is to gain Divine Rank 0. It certainly seems possible that mortal servants of the Gods can ascend to this when you look at things that gain this rank. So after many a long and difficult quest for your deity (and either passing level 20 if you do not use the epic rules or maybe level 40 if you do) then a reward of Divine Rank 0 would be possible. But this does make you a servant of that deity and your PC's activities do become much more heavily constrained. Depending on the interpretation of whether there is a finite amount of divine power or not their are then ways to slowly increase your Divine Rank. The former pretty much limits you to defeating existing deities and taking some of their power and the latter would usually involve building up a base of worshippers and gaining power that way. I am involved in 2 very long running campaigns where divine ascension is in play. The first has the PC's as incarnated "angels" looking after a newly re-born NPC god and trying to grow the religion, the latter has one PC trying to establish himself as a Demigod of lycanthropes. In both cases you tend to get a very political campaign as nascent religions have to rely on alliances to survive and also any adventures tend to be extremely complex and difficult as they tend to involve great powers and artifacts.