i need the cd [Archive] - Wizards Community

i need the cd [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
gomer_pile
05-26-06, 10:24 AM i need the cd in the back of the players handbook for hte 3.0
where can i find it and what was on it exactly
rijeagle
05-26-06, 02:51 PM Have you tried looking for it on ebay or amazon? Basically the disk was a preview of the 3.0 Core Rules for the PC
rijeagle
05-26-06, 02:52 PM - double post, sorry - :embarrass
Hochiu
05-26-06, 03:06 PM You need it, but you have no clue what information it contained? :confused:
hmmmm
05-26-06, 05:57 PM I'm just as puzzled, anyway I would think that you need to buy the book as it is in the back of it.
Hochiu
05-26-06, 06:02 PM My CD was a trial copy of the (PC) character generator...I detested it and promptly lost my CD.
gomer_pile
05-26-06, 07:00 PM well i bought the book used.

i guess i shouldnt say i NEED the cd, mor as i want the cd.

i tried ebay and couldnt find a thing, i dont even know what the title is.

but i was hoping it was a generator, that would make things alot easyer.
but if it has nothing more than that it is prolly not worth my time.
Araciel
05-26-06, 08:04 PM no it's not worth it...it's really better to just write it out on to a sheet anyway, as pencil can be erased far easier than the ink used in printing the character sheets...plus there was no way to import content, such as new feats, items, etc....so it's pretty useless nowadays
Arbitrary Aardvark
05-28-06, 02:20 PM no it's not worth it...it's really better to just write it out on to a sheet anyway, as pencil can be erased far easier than the ink used in printing the character sheets...plus there was no way to import content, such as new feats, items, etc....so it's pretty useless nowadays

You might also look up PCgen, it is a free Java-based character generation program that implements the SRDs.
hmmmm
05-28-06, 05:02 PM You can find better generators online than the one in the CD at the back of the book.
a_psh
05-28-06, 11:36 PM It was basically just a demo for this application called Master Tools, which was supposed to do a whole lot of stuff. All of the good features (like mapping) dropped out as it neared the release date, until only the character generator was pretty much left. Not sure whether it was actually released or not, but general concensus is that much better free software tools exist.
tsuyoshikentsu
05-29-06, 01:41 AM It changed into eTools, which is a piece of garbage. I loved that demo; the interface was sooo awesome.

If eTools had turned out like that demo...
Arbitrary Aardvark
05-30-06, 03:21 PM It changed into eTools, which is a piece of garbage. I loved that demo; the interface was sooo awesome.

If eTools had turned out like that demo...

E-Tools isn't too bad now that Code Monkey Publishing has fixed it. However, it is essentially a new program, not an update for the coaster that fluidics gave us.
Man in the Funny Hat
06-02-06, 01:21 AM i need the cd in the back of the players handbook for hte 3.0
where can i find it and what was on it exactly
The CD was a character generator made by Fluid Entertainment. It had no capabilities beyond 1st level, PH-only, characters and even beyond that limitation its biggest problem was that it was ungodly slow to print and there was no preview of what WOULD be printed. It was perhaps a good stopgap and was intended as something of a demo anyway. You got it free with the PH so how much could you REALLY complain? The intent was for it to be developed into a much better product anyway.

This then took place and to my knowledge was killed for more than one very good reason. The original code in the demo was rushed IIRC and was scrapped entirely. The new software (to be called "Master Tools") was envisioned as being able to do it all. As I recall it was widely touted as being nothing short of the final and total marriage of D&D and computers. You'd be able to create characters, encounters, treasure, race templates, magic items, add home rules of all kinds, create maps, track campaign information, display 3-D characters and monsters, run games online... EVERYTHING. It failed to achieve these outrageous goals.

The project was then drastically scaled back (given more realistic and acheivable goals) renamed Etools, and released to less than thunderous applause due to bugs and such. Code Monkey Publishing later took over the care and feeding of Etools with demonstrable improvements, but nothing like the be-all/end-all it started out to be.

It IS still available free from Fluid here:
http://www.fluidnet.com/product_files/char_gen.zip

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
gomer_pile 05-26-06, 10:24 AM	i need the cd in the back of the players handbook for hte 3.0 where can i find it and what was on it exactly
rijeagle 05-26-06, 02:51 PM	Have you tried looking for it on ebay or amazon? Basically the disk was a preview of the 3.0 Core Rules for the PC
rijeagle 05-26-06, 02:52 PM	- double post, sorry - :embarrass
Hochiu 05-26-06, 03:06 PM	You need it, but you have no clue what information it contained? :confused:
hmmmm 05-26-06, 05:57 PM	I'm just as puzzled, anyway I would think that you need to buy the book as it is in the back of it.
Hochiu 05-26-06, 06:02 PM	My CD was a trial copy of the (PC) character generator...I detested it and promptly lost my CD.
gomer_pile 05-26-06, 07:00 PM	well i bought the book used. i guess i shouldnt say i NEED the cd, mor as i want the cd. i tried ebay and couldnt find a thing, i dont even know what the title is. but i was hoping it was a generator, that would make things alot easyer. but if it has nothing more than that it is prolly not worth my time.
Araciel 05-26-06, 08:04 PM	no it's not worth it...it's really better to just write it out on to a sheet anyway, as pencil can be erased far easier than the ink used in printing the character sheets...plus there was no way to import content, such as new feats, items, etc....so it's pretty useless nowadays
Arbitrary Aardvark 05-28-06, 02:20 PM	no it's not worth it...it's really better to just write it out on to a sheet anyway, as pencil can be erased far easier than the ink used in printing the character sheets...plus there was no way to import content, such as new feats, items, etc....so it's pretty useless nowadays You might also look up PCgen, it is a free Java-based character generation program that implements the SRDs.
hmmmm 05-28-06, 05:02 PM	You can find better generators online than the one in the CD at the back of the book.
a_psh 05-28-06, 11:36 PM	It was basically just a demo for this application called Master Tools, which was supposed to do a whole lot of stuff. All of the good features (like mapping) dropped out as it neared the release date, until only the character generator was pretty much left. Not sure whether it was actually released or not, but general concensus is that much better free software tools exist.
tsuyoshikentsu 05-29-06, 01:41 AM	It changed into eTools, which is a piece of garbage. I loved that demo; the interface was sooo awesome. If eTools had turned out like that demo...
Arbitrary Aardvark 05-30-06, 03:21 PM	It changed into eTools, which is a piece of garbage. I loved that demo; the interface was sooo awesome. If eTools had turned out like that demo... E-Tools isn't too bad now that Code Monkey Publishing has fixed it. However, it is essentially a new program, not an update for the coaster that fluidics gave us.
Man in the Funny Hat 06-02-06, 01:21 AM	i need the cd in the back of the players handbook for hte 3.0 where can i find it and what was on it exactly The CD was a character generator made by Fluid Entertainment. It had no capabilities beyond 1st level, PH-only, characters and even beyond that limitation its biggest problem was that it was ungodly slow to print and there was no preview of what WOULD be printed. It was perhaps a good stopgap and was intended as something of a demo anyway. You got it free with the PH so how much could you REALLY complain? The intent was for it to be developed into a much better product anyway. This then took place and to my knowledge was killed for more than one very good reason. The original code in the demo was rushed IIRC and was scrapped entirely. The new software (to be called "Master Tools") was envisioned as being able to do it all. As I recall it was widely touted as being nothing short of the final and total marriage of D&D and computers. You'd be able to create characters, encounters, treasure, race templates, magic items, add home rules of all kinds, create maps, track campaign information, display 3-D characters and monsters, run games online... EVERYTHING. It failed to achieve these outrageous goals. The project was then drastically scaled back (given more realistic and acheivable goals) renamed Etools, and released to less than thunderous applause due to bugs and such. Code Monkey Publishing later took over the care and feeding of Etools with demonstrable improvements, but nothing like the be-all/end-all it started out to be. It IS still available free from Fluid here: http://www.fluidnet.com/product_files/char_gen.zip