Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DungeonMasterTEK 03-06-07, 01:01 AM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character?
TheChilliGod 03-06-07, 01:06 AM	*Snigger* Cohorticus the Cleric Cohort. Imaginative. It's my belief that one would be best to only retire your character when one of two things happen: either you are no longer having fun with your PC, or someone else is no longer having fun with your PC being around. Do you think that you'd have more fun if you decided to switch PC's to something else? That counts, so go for it.
TheSubtlePenguin 03-06-07, 01:12 AM	Perhaps its time to retire your DM. Your character could easily be a central plot element for a story you could write. Have the DM and other players play adventurerers working for you, or against you... lead to the death or immortaility of your character... and in another session in the future, raid his dungeon of a tomb.
BladeBoy 03-06-07, 01:25 AM	a pair of hellfire wryms? aren't those a CR 26 each?
Daydreamer 03-06-07, 01:26 AM	Lol your post almost sounds like bragging. I dont know what you are looking for, a pat on the back maybe? Ive been playing d&d for 14 years and nobody has ever been that strong with our group bc we play a more 'realistic' game. Id suggest you retire this character yes, though how you even got here speaks volumes about the type of game you play.
Daydreamer 03-06-07, 01:27 AM	Lol your post almost sounds like bragging. I dont know what you are looking for, a pat on the back maybe? Ive been playing d&d for 14 years and nobody has ever been that strong with our group bc we play a more 'realistic' game. Id suggest you retire this character yes, though how you even got here speaks volumes about the type of game you play. Also you are the blueprint for powergaming lol 'I WON'. haha
Dag 03-06-07, 02:01 AM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? Here we have the visual proof for all to read. Walking, talking proof of why many of us (including myself) always say that a DM should not run a player character in his own campaign. Perhaps I'm making an assumption here, but after reading your post I have to conclude that you are either the DM or you are sleeping with the DM.
FrostHammer 03-06-07, 02:15 AM	Casual sex with your silver dragon? Blasphemy! Only true-love is good enough for that kind of situation!
Critalondel 03-06-07, 03:54 AM	Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? But if you retire that guy, what character will you play when you turn fifteen?
Ack 03-06-07, 09:19 AM	If the GM can't figure out a way to carve your character down to size, he isn't worthy of the name. Surely you're a threat to someone, somewhere, who can do something about you. :D
hiroshimahamster 03-06-07, 09:37 AM	Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) Okay... That's just wrong... Is your mount able to polymorph into a humanoid? If not... :yuck: Your character should been retired a long time ago - solo campaigns rarely turn out to be a true test of the character, unless it's for a paladin's atonement or something. Get yourself some new fellow players and start again.
Issabella 03-06-07, 10:26 AM	and the point of this post is what? Sorry I missed it amoung the ego stroking.
DarkNick 03-06-07, 02:31 PM	Even Huma did not lower himself to shag a dragon no matter how much he wanted too. Shame on you. I feel sorry for the dragon... "are you in yet?"
Daydreamer 03-06-07, 03:48 PM	im thinking ppl who brag bout there pcs sex life dont have much of one of there own :rolleyes:
FrostHammer 03-06-07, 03:58 PM	Yeah, MY Paladin and the mount will fall in love slowly over the course of 14 or so levels, and there will be strains, hardships to overcome, and foolish heroics to save each other!
BusterGT 03-06-07, 04:12 PM	This seems like the perfect player to get sucked into Ravenloft. Perhaps the character could get sucked in without his castle and such, instead. Hmm, getting lonely and want to shag your mount? Sure, but it'll be a dread mount instead. Want to build a castle stronghold? Sure, but the only people with the skills are slavers. You can be the second LG Pally to get trapped in Ravenloft as a Darklord. Then your DM can control that lovelly little arrogant pally.
LordBOB777 03-06-07, 04:18 PM	If you were able to single handly defeat a pair of CR 26 Hellfire Wyrms, there is no point in continuing, since NOTHING could possibally be a challange anymore. The at will Blasphemy alone should of made it near impossible for you to win. Im not even going into the other at will abilities
snakeman830 03-06-07, 04:23 PM	Yeah, I'd say it's time to retire. Let him take his time off, mabye raise his scaly little kids. In a future campaign, play one of them! Or, you could have something go so completely wrong in his life and make him a Blackgaurd. Then your DM has a new adventure!
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-06-07, 04:35 PM	So, the question: Time to retire the character? Time to retire the DM.
hiroshimahamster 03-07-07, 07:32 AM	im thinking ppl who brag bout there pcs sex life dont have much of one of there own :rolleyes: SECONDED!
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-07-07, 10:46 AM	Casual sex with your silver dragon? He's shagging a 30 ton lizard. I'd hardly qualify that "casual."
snakeman830 03-07-07, 03:15 PM	He's shagging a 30 ton lizard. I'd hardly qualify that "casual." Doesn't that violate the Palidan's Vow of Chastity?
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-07-07, 03:37 PM	Doesn't that violate the Palidan's Vow of Chastity? Paladin's don't have to make a vow of chastity, thought it does violate most players' Vow of Sensibility.
snakeman830 03-07-07, 03:50 PM	Eh, the Palidan's code is vauge as to what it requires. But I have to agree with you there.
DarkNick 03-07-07, 05:01 PM	The Ballad of Jayne Cobb: Jayne! The Man they call Jayne! He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, He stood up to the man and he gave him what for. Our love for him now, aint hard to explain, The hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne! Jayne saw the mudder's backs breakin', And he saw the mudder's lament, And he saw the magistrate takin', Every dollar and takin' five cents. He said, "You can't do this to my people, you can't crush them under your heel." So Jayne strapped on his hat, and in five seconds flat He stole everything boss Higins had to steal. He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, Stood up to The Man and gave him what for, Our love for him now ain't hard to explain, The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne! Now here is what seperates heros from common folk like you and I, The man they call Jayne, he turned 'round his plane, And let that money hit sky. He dropped it onto our houses, He dropped it into our yard. The man they call Jayne, he turned 'round his plane, And headed out towards the stars. He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, He stood up to The Man and gave him what for, Our love for him now ain't hard to explain, The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne!
ridiculous 03-07-07, 06:21 PM	If you can kill 2 CR 26 creatures by yourself, you either: 1. broke the rules 2. have WAYYYY to much wealth 3. have a DM who plays very nice Most probably a combination thereof Either way you should retire your DM.
Ack 03-07-07, 07:15 PM	Y'know ... we never asked why the other players retired or (if their characters died) didn't bring in new characters. I think we know the answer. Because next to this Monty Haul of Monty Hauls, whatever they could accomplish in the game would SUCK! So, is the GM: a) your elder brother b) your younger brother c) your younger sister d) your dog e) your girlfriend f) your boyfriend (had to be said) g) your mother or h) you? Please answer honestly for extra credit.
Amon_WinterfallIV 03-07-07, 07:28 PM	If you can kill 2 CR 26 creatures by yourself, you either: 1. broke the rules 2. have WAYYYY to much wealth 3. have a DM who plays very nice Most probably a combination thereof Either way you should retire your DM. Serious Note: THe Hellfire Wyrm is BADLY over CRed. It claims to be CR 26, but it has less than 26 HD (23), It makes many less attacks than a real dragon, its Fear Aura is weaksauce, its summons are not even CR apporpriate (It should be summoning Bel, not not some dudes 15 CRs lower than itself), it doesn't deal that much damage with its breath weapon (14d10 is the same as a CR 17 Mature Red Adult dragon) The Hellfire Wyrm has less magic spells than the Mature Red, it has less spells, it has higher AC (by 5 points) SR, and Fear DCs, but it lacks the attack routine of the Mature Red and has about as many HP. So, I'm thinking Hellfire Wyrm is probably a CR 17-18 opponent. In 3.5, It's DR is not going to be 20/+5 (which makes it rough for a 17-18th level party). Beating 2 3.5 Hellfire wyrms Is not the epic feat you're claiming it is. Oh, and he's compensating for something...
sythspawn 03-08-07, 01:21 PM	im thinking ppl who brag bout there pcs sex life dont have much of one of there own :rolleyes: Neither does my pc. :weep:
unfortunate_crow 03-08-07, 01:40 PM	I really wish the OP would reply to his thread...
allenchan 03-08-07, 04:50 PM	I really wish the OP would reply to his thread... You just want to lick his sweet, sweet tears, dont you?
Ack 03-08-07, 05:07 PM	I really wish the OP would reply to his thread... Would you, with all the heapin' of hurtin' that's gonna come his way if he does?
EyeontheMountain 03-08-07, 05:13 PM	He's probably busy boasting somewhere else.
DungeonMasterTEK 03-08-07, 07:41 PM	Good advice! Next question is "what do I do when half of the fights are dramatic and exciting, and the other half end in two rounds? And what about when basically everyone I meet either cries and wets themselves from my diplomacy rolls, or wants to kill me?"
DungeonMasterTEK 03-08-07, 07:42 PM	That's actually an excellent strategy! Even if I don't use it for this character, that could very well be the basis of the next campaign I play/run!
DungeonMasterTEK 03-08-07, 07:43 PM	Yes they are. Of course, when Barachiel (See Book of Exalted Deads) is fighting alongside you and buffing you with sub-epic cleric spells, silly things can happen!
DungeonMasterTEK 03-08-07, 07:53 PM	ok, you know what? Too many replies to respond to each individually! So, I'm just gonna make a mass reply: Retire my DM? Good idea, but he really is insanely good qith quest hooks, which is unfortunately a rare traight among my group. My character broken (or nerfed, whatever you want to call it)? Of course he is! I power game like you'd never believe possible! Of course, I'm also a fanatic rules nerd, so I'm fairly confident that I'm within the rules (at least of DnD, if not reality). The dragon thing? Dragons can assume any small or medium humanoid or animal form. And since my dragon happened to be something like 3 years younger then my character (mid-twenties: 16 year olds should NOT be allowed to advance past level 10), and had 18 Charisma, it was too tempting not to do it solely to mess with my Dm. And my lack of a sex life is entirely voluntary, thank you very much. :rolleyes:
Ack 03-08-07, 09:24 PM	And my lack of a sex life is entirely voluntary, thank you very much. :rolleyes: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Possibly the LEAST plausible statement I have ever heard. Okay, now that you're back, why did everyone else either retire or choose not to make new characters for the game, if you are having so much fun? Or is it because you are having so much fun, and they can't match up to you? Note that I have no idea who Barachiel is, but a GM who allows you to have someone from the Book of Exalted Deeds buff you up in combat needs his head read. Really.
Gilganarz_the_reporter 03-09-07, 01:37 AM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? Please...tell me this is some... sick...twisted joke *brain begins to bleed out of ears*...before it's too late...*reads bit about Barachiel*...oooohhhhh.... Okay, here's the solution. You haven't truly *won* D&D yet. To win, you must first pick up a hammer gun, most good weapons stores have them. Buy two hammers for ammo. Then proceed to go to your DM and fire the gun at him. Then reload, place the gun at the base of your skull at a slight upward angle to ensure the destruction of the entire brain. Pull the trigger. Congratulations, you have successfully won D&D
Ack 03-09-07, 06:19 AM	But is it truly winning if you cheat? ... because SOMEONE was sure as hell cheating. As evidenced by everyone else choosing to leave the game (or not come back, which amounts to the same thing). So, if you want to know if you've really won? Lose all the contacts. Lose everything except a +1 Breastplate, and maybe a mastercraft sword. Nothing that's not in the PHB. Lose all the cool (GM-bestowed) friends and allies - yes, including the silver dragon that you love to boast about sleeping with. Lose all but about five levels of character class. Try and do all that again. With a different GM. See how far you get. If you get all the way to where you are, again, then yes, you've won D&D. If not, then you've just used the equivalent of cheat codes to sleaze your way to the point where you think you have. Your move.
Frugal 03-09-07, 10:51 AM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? Somehow I couldn't resist replying to this masturbatory post. In later posts you talk about developing that relationship with the dragon over 14 levels, so you got the dragon at level 2? You also talk about the dragon being 3 years younger than your character, yet you can use it as a mount? According to Draconomicon (which presumably you have access to because of the dragon rider PrC) the youngest silver dragon a medium creature could ride would be a juvenile, which would be 26-50, I believe you said your character is 16 at this point, or were you saying the dragon was 16, making your character 19? Care to elaborate on how this all works? I thought you claimed to be a rules fanatic? For that matter, how about the rest of the build? You might not be cheating but I can guarantee that any DM who gives a juvenile or older silver dragon to a 2nd level character is sure as hell being way too lenient.
nightwyrm 03-09-07, 11:43 AM	Congratulations, you've won D&D. The prize is the DM chair for the next campaign.
Frugal 03-09-07, 12:47 PM	So, I'm thinking Hellfire Wyrm is probably a CR 17-18 opponent. In 3.5, It's DR is not going to be 20/+5 (which makes it rough for a 17-18th level party). The MM2 3.5 update puts it at DR 15/epic, not that getting past DR 15/anything at level 15 is all that tough. I do agree that CR 26 is probably way too high though.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-09-07, 02:39 PM	The only way to win at D&D is for everyone involved in the game to have fun. Everyone else seems to have got bored and left. Sorry to tell you this, man, but you didn't win…everyone in your group lost.
FrostHammer 03-09-07, 03:50 PM	Somehow I couldn't resist replying to this masturbatory post. In later posts you talk about developing that relationship with the dragon over 14 levels, so you got the dragon at level 2? You also talk about the dragon being 3 years younger than your character, yet you can use it as a mount? According to Draconomicon (which presumably you have access to because of the dragon rider PrC) the youngest silver dragon a medium creature could ride would be a juvenile, which would be 26-50, I believe you said your character is 16 at this point, or were you saying the dragon was 16, making your character 19? Care to elaborate on how this all works? I thought you claimed to be a rules fanatic? For that matter, how about the rest of the build? You might not be cheating but I can guarantee that any DM who gives a juvenile or older silver dragon to a 2nd level character is sure as hell being way too lenient. You do realize that I'm the one who posted developing relationship with a dragon over 14 levels or so right? I was making fun of him having casual sex with a dragon, while emphasizing the commitment between my character and the dragon in a relationship that develops over time.
Ack 03-09-07, 04:02 PM	I ran a game once where one of the PCs started with a dragon as a mount. And yes, he too was going to have her able to shapechange and also be his girlfriend (must be a fairly common fantasy, I guess). However, these were evil characters; it was an evil game. So I had a larger, older, male dragon accost them, solely to challenge the PC's right to have sole access to this female dragon. It did not end well. :P
Frugal 03-09-07, 04:27 PM	You do realize that I'm the one who posted developing relationship with a dragon over 14 levels or so right? I was making fun of him having casual sex with a dragon, while emphasizing the commitment between my character and the dragon in a relationship that develops over time. Ah, that's what I get for reading the whole thread before replying and then going on memory.
Saytr 03-09-07, 04:51 PM	The only way to win at D&D is for everyone involved in the game to have fun. Everyone else seems to have got bored and left. Sorry to tell you this, man, but you didn't win everyone in your group lost. Motion is seconded Votes?
FrostHammer 03-09-07, 05:14 PM	I ran a game once where one of the PCs started with a dragon as a mount. And yes, he too was going to have her able to shapechange and also be his girlfriend (must be a fairly common fantasy, I guess). However, these were evil characters; it was an evil game. So I had a larger, older, male dragon accost them, solely to challenge the PC's right to have sole access to this female dragon. It did not end well. :P What kind of dragon was it? I know Silver and Gold dragons have Alternate Form at any age. And fantasy schmantasy. My character's dragon is a male one.
DrakePD 03-09-07, 06:22 PM	You and one guest have an invitation to attend a grand party. Location: Sigil Attire: Casual Just follow the map on the reverse side of the invitation and use this invitation as the key to activate the portal. :P
Fatalis_902 03-10-07, 10:15 AM	Possibly the LEAST plausible statement I have ever heard. Why is it so implausible? What if he/she isn't married, or is underaged, or has a sense of morals that does not allow for premarital sex? Motion is seconded Votes? Aye.
Ack 03-10-07, 05:34 PM	Motion is seconded Votes? Yup.
Ack 03-10-07, 05:35 PM	What kind of dragon was it? I know Silver and Gold dragons have Alternate Form at any age. And fantasy schmantasy. My character's dragon is a male one. A GURPS dragon. :D
Cromag 03-10-07, 05:44 PM	Sex with a dragon? Ewwww, just Ewwww....
Avonderre 03-10-07, 08:03 PM	I had a bit of a rough day today, but reading this made me laugh until I cried! People, the OP isn't serious, no one could be that pathetic, delusional and self-centred! Love, Avo
ravenshrike 03-11-07, 03:20 PM	He's shagging a 30 ton lizard. I'd hardly qualify that "casual." It's a silver dragon, I think we can safely assume that it is in an alternate form.
Ack 03-11-07, 05:12 PM	I'm just wondering, what happens if in the throes of passion she accidentally turns back? Could get messy....
FrostHammer 03-11-07, 07:07 PM	*digs up the formula for Crushing damage*...
Ack 03-11-07, 07:15 PM	I had a bit of a rough day today, but reading this made me laugh until I cried! People, the OP isn't serious, no one could be that pathetic, delusional and self-centred! Love, Avo You don't get out much do you :P I have met people that bad (who really thought nothing of the way they acted) both across the gaming table and in the line of my work. It's gotten to the point that I've wanted to give my parents a big hug, all the while crying out, "Thank you for raising me to be the mediocrely competent overweight slob that I am today - because at least I value other people!" Well, I didn't say it, but I hugged them anyway. :D
Caled40 03-11-07, 07:33 PM	The Ballad of Jayne Cobb: Jayne! The Man they call Jayne! He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, He stood up to the man and he gave him what for. Our love for him now, aint hard to explain, The hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne! Jayne saw the mudder's backs breakin', And he saw the mudder's lament, And he saw the magistrate takin', Every dollar and takin' five cents. He said, "You can't do this to my people, you can't crush them under your heel." So Jayne strapped on his hat, and in five seconds flat He stole everything boss Higins had to steal. He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, Stood up to The Man and gave him what for, Our love for him now ain't hard to explain, The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne! Now here is what seperates heros from common folk like you and I, The man they call Jayne, he turned 'round his plane, And let that money hit sky. He dropped it onto our houses, He dropped it into our yard. The man they call Jayne, he turned 'round his plane, And headed out towards the stars. He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor, He stood up to The Man and gave him what for, Our love for him now ain't hard to explain, The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne! there is s move of this here (http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=891&sid=eab8f25aa02ecf3d038f2e108c408de7)
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-11-07, 07:34 PM	Am I the only one who wants to see the OPīs character stats?!!! Please please please please!!!! :D :D
Willie the Duck 03-11-07, 08:25 PM	Okay, it isn't hard to see what's going on here. The OP decided that he was the coolest thing since sliced bread, and wanted someone else to tell him so. He got on here and people are (rightfully) wholly unimpressed. That's how it should be. However, let's not all stand in a huddle saying, "hey, my turn! I haven't gotten a chance to kick the loser yet!" That's unbecoming of us. Seriously, think back to when you were a (I'm guessing) 13-year old antisocial little aspiring geek. I'll bet you had your handdrawn Marvel comics or X-files scripts or Harry Potter fanfic (depending on your age) that you were convinced were the greatest thing ever. They were all horribly hackneyed, Mary Sue'd garbage with a 13 year old's understanding of coolness (and sex). This guys problem is that he has a whole internet to look at his work and snear, while we fogeys just had the other 13 year old nerds that we showed our work to. I know. He put it to us. This isn't the star wars kid. He's getting what he deserves, but that doesn't mean that we deserve to give it to him. It would be respectful for us to treat it as what it is: another neophytes first stumble out of the gate. We had it too, just not as publically. Besides, he's a socially inept child, why should we get any satisfaction out of taking him down a notch? Anyway, DungeonMasterTEK -- it appears to everyone that you created this thread to brag about your cool character. Unfortunately, your character doesn't seem cool to anyone here. It seems like is kind of a self fantasy where you get to compensate for your own lack of control in the world by making (and we meen making, as the DM seems to be handing you the world on a platter) a 'self insertion' character who has everything going for him (what alot of people call masturbatory, although self gratifying is a more accurate term). You also say that you are a rules nerd, yet this seems to be your first time here (since you hadn't seemed to have learned how to use the quote function to respond to specific people), and thus you clearly haven't done the online research of rules interactions and what other people have run into that are the hallmarks of being a true rules expert. I would suggest that instead of coming here to try and get us to think that you are cool, you actually try to become a member of the community here. That way, you might get a chance to do something worthy of praise. Good luck on your next campaign, and keep the self indulgent Mary Sue characters in the shoebox under your bed, not on public forums.
Ack 03-11-07, 08:56 PM	Am I the only one who wants to see the OPīs character stats?!!! Please please please please!!!! :D :D I don't know if there's numbers that go that high :P
stuporhero93 03-11-07, 08:58 PM	OWNED!
johnkretzer 03-11-07, 11:14 PM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? um...time to either retire from gaming in general or your DM... Also sleeping with a silver dragon isn't that unheard of they can naturaly shape change after all. Though the thought that you had to add that in...was poor.
TRCEttin 03-12-07, 07:03 AM	Oh, is this the brag thread? 'Kay. I had a drow wizard/archmage with an artifact ring that could suck dying or recently killed demons into itself and convert them into a blast of magical force with damage equivalent to their HD. His goal was to take over a layer of the Abyss (he wasn't evil, he just wanted power and figured ticking off a bunch of evil jerks was better than trying to take over a good-aligned plane or something, because they were evil jerks so nobody would care) and then rule with an appropriate amount of succubi, hot drow womens etc. etc. by his side. He did, too! Oh wait, that never happened because that game only lasted one session. He already had a surprised and angry Juiblex inside his ring by the end of that, though, so I think we can take the Abyssal layer + hot drow erinyes harem as a given. i ween at dee en dees!
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-12-07, 12:22 PM	It's a silver dragon, I think we can safely assume that it is in an alternate form. Or that the PC owns a wetsuit.
FrostHammer 03-12-07, 02:03 PM	A wetsuit doesn't help if you're on the receiving end.
Daydreamer 03-12-07, 02:23 PM	Am I the only one who wants to see the OPīs character stats?!!! Please please please please!!!! :D :D IM guessing he has a million hit points and maximum possible charisma!
Doleth 03-12-07, 07:49 PM	I'm playing in a campaign which has, after the death/retirement of all the other players, now follows my Paladin/Dragonrider/Hospitaler/Cavalier (I Min-Max like nobody's business) and his cohort (Cohorticus the Cleric), and my small army of followers. I run a large city, and at level 15, I'm killing monsters and NPCs up to 3 CRs higher then me. Often without injury. After defending my city against an army of undead, demons, and a pair of Hellfire Wyrms, someone wants to turn me into a celestial. Oh, and just a side note... I'm sleeping with my Silver Dragon mount. ...gotta love Artistic license. (And hey, half-dragons have to come from somewhere!) So, the question: Time to retire the character? You don't win DnD until you have defeated Invisible Christopher Walken! but seriously, you should have retired your character when all the others players abandoned you and your Dm. The real question thougt, did all the other quit because of you, the Dm or both? or maybe they were eaten by artic wolves?
Ryusage 03-12-07, 08:13 PM	I really wish the OP would reply to his thread... its too much of a troll thread for that
Azerian 03-12-07, 09:10 PM	Okay, it isn't hard to see what's going on here. The OP decided that he was the coolest thing since sliced bread, and wanted someone else to tell him so. He got on here and people are (rightfully) wholly unimpressed. That's how it should be. However, let's not all stand in a huddle saying, "hey, my turn! I haven't gotten a chance to kick the loser yet!" That's unbecoming of us. Seriously, think back to when you were a (I'm guessing) 13-year old antisocial little aspiring geek. I'll bet you had your handdrawn Marvel comics or X-files scripts or Harry Potter fanfic (depending on your age) that you were convinced were the greatest thing ever. They were all horribly hackneyed, Mary Sue'd garbage with a 13 year old's understanding of coolness (and sex). This guys problem is that he has a whole internet to look at his work and snear, while we fogeys just had the other 13 year old nerds that we showed our work to. I know. He put it to us. This isn't the star wars kid. He's getting what he deserves, but that doesn't mean that we deserve to give it to him. It would be respectful for us to treat it as what it is: another neophytes first stumble out of the gate. We had it too, just not as publically. Besides, he's a socially inept child, why should we get any satisfaction out of taking him down a notch? Anyway, DungeonMasterTEK -- it appears to everyone that you created this thread to brag about your cool character. Unfortunately, your character doesn't seem cool to anyone here. It seems like is kind of a self fantasy where you get to compensate for your own lack of control in the world by making (and we meen making, as the DM seems to be handing you the world on a platter) a 'self insertion' character who has everything going for him (what alot of people call masturbatory, although self gratifying is a more accurate term). You also say that you are a rules nerd, yet this seems to be your first time here (since you hadn't seemed to have learned how to use the quote function to respond to specific people), and thus you clearly haven't done the online research of rules interactions and what other people have run into that are the hallmarks of being a true rules expert. I would suggest that instead of coming here to try and get us to think that you are cool, you actually try to become a member of the community here. That way, you might get a chance to do something worthy of praise. Good luck on your next campaign, and keep the self indulgent Mary Sue characters in the shoebox under your bed, not on public forums. :zzz: ........ :blink: ......... :OMG! ........ ITS ON!!! Hey everyone, its on! To the OP. In case you didn't see, you just got PWND. To pronounce, simply say "owned" and put a P at the begining of the word. So now, its on. You have 24 hours to respond to the post or you will have been served. Getting served is never a good thing. This counts as a resounding YAY! to the vote! (the PR offices of Azerian Shall'rett do not encourage the response of said OP, only encourage him to move on with his/her life and take what Willie the Duck has so elegantly stated to heart.)
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-13-07, 08:13 AM	:zzz: ........ :blink: ......... :OMG! ........ ITS ON!!! Hey everyone, its on! To the OP. In case you didn't see, you just got PWND. To pronounce, simply say "owned" and put a P at the begining of the word. So now, its on. You have 24 hours to respond to the post or you will have been served. Getting served is never a good thing. This counts as a resounding YAY! to the vote! (the PR offices of Azerian Shall'rett do not encourage the response of said OP, only encourage him to move on with his/her life and take what Willie the Duck has so elegantly stated to heart.) I didnīt understand what you just said, but Iīd really like to see the OP post his characterīs stats here,
Issabella 03-13-07, 08:31 AM	Darn you WIllie the Duck...you took the fun out of mocking the OP....you are a mean mean person for being right
Azerian 03-13-07, 12:19 PM	I didnīt understand what you just said, but Iīd really like to see the OP post his characterīs stats here, Its on.... what more needs to be said? Maybe a catchy post-"its on" phrase like," 'til the break o' dawn." No one likes getting served my friend. (P.S. watch South Park and you'd understand) And now that I really think about it, I'd like to see the OP's character sheet as well. However, judging from the overwhelmingly critical response to the post, posting the character sheet is a very bad idea for the OP on this forum.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-13-07, 12:23 PM	The OP cannot post his character sheet. Bandwidth restrictions will not permit the transmission of so much concentrated awesome.
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-13-07, 12:39 PM	The OP cannot post his character sheet. Bandwidth restrictions will not permit the transmission of so much concentrated awesome. I think itīs obvious by now that the OP wonīt show himself on this thread anymore. And thatīs sad, because I really, really want to see his min/maxed characterīs stats.
Ack 03-13-07, 12:49 PM	More to the point, I want to hear the interesting and no doubt convoluted story of how he got them. :D
Daydreamer 03-13-07, 02:56 PM	This thread should be linked everytime someone raises the question. "whats the problem with power gaming" alienting fellow pcs till they leave and considering your character cool for having accomplished these sort of goals -_-;
Valdaran 03-13-07, 03:10 PM	Okay, it isn't hard to see what's going on here. The OP decided that he was the coolest thing since sliced bread, and wanted someone else to tell him so. He got on here and people are (rightfully) wholly unimpressed. That's how it should be. However, let's not all stand in a huddle saying, "hey, my turn! I haven't gotten a chance to kick the loser yet!" That's unbecoming of us. Seriously, think back to when you were a (I'm guessing) 13-year old antisocial little aspiring geek. I'll bet you had your handdrawn Marvel comics or X-files scripts or Harry Potter fanfic (depending on your age) that you were convinced were the greatest thing ever. They were all horribly hackneyed, Mary Sue'd garbage with a 13 year old's understanding of coolness (and sex). This guys problem is that he has a whole internet to look at his work and snear, while we fogeys just had the other 13 year old nerds that we showed our work to. I know. He put it to us. This isn't the star wars kid. He's getting what he deserves, but that doesn't mean that we deserve to give it to him. It would be respectful for us to treat it as what it is: another neophytes first stumble out of the gate. We had it too, just not as publically. Besides, he's a socially inept child, why should we get any satisfaction out of taking him down a notch? Anyway, DungeonMasterTEK -- it appears to everyone that you created this thread to brag about your cool character. Unfortunately, your character doesn't seem cool to anyone here. It seems like is kind of a self fantasy where you get to compensate for your own lack of control in the world by making (and we meen making, as the DM seems to be handing you the world on a platter) a 'self insertion' character who has everything going for him (what alot of people call masturbatory, although self gratifying is a more accurate term). You also say that you are a rules nerd, yet this seems to be your first time here (since you hadn't seemed to have learned how to use the quote function to respond to specific people), and thus you clearly haven't done the online research of rules interactions and what other people have run into that are the hallmarks of being a true rules expert. I would suggest that instead of coming here to try and get us to think that you are cool, you actually try to become a member of the community here. That way, you might get a chance to do something worthy of praise. Good luck on your next campaign, and keep the self indulgent Mary Sue characters in the shoebox under your bed, not on public forums. Congratulations, that was: a) True b) fair c) worthy of respect d) will not actually have sent a 13 year old into an asylum but will have stopped him from posting anything like this ever again Consider yourself held in esteem. (and I love the snarf quest reference)
FrostHammer 03-13-07, 04:19 PM	I blame our culture (and the meaness of other kids in general) for the low self-esteem of our kids...so low that they have to resort to this. *tsk tsk*
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-13-07, 08:04 PM	What if we all send Private Messages to him asking to come back? heh heh heh...
sassyprassey 03-13-07, 08:08 PM	Here we have the visual proof for all to read. Walking, talking proof of why many of us (including myself) always say that a DM should not run a player character in his own campaign. Perhaps I'm making an assumption here, but after reading your post I have to conclude that you are either the DM or you are sleeping with the DM. Hey now I have a husband that is a DM and he will kill me off if I get to powerful. Trust me it has happened before. What is power leveling (i just started playing and we dont play that way)
FrostHammer 03-13-07, 08:15 PM	Killing you off because you got too powerful? Now there's an eays way out. He should've talked to you about you voluntarily giving up some of your magic items, for example(maybe donate to a church) insetad of just killing your character. If your character is too powerufl, it's the DM's fault really.
sassyprassey 03-13-07, 08:38 PM	We were trying out a PC class he invented and the class was to powerful (we killed a 10 headed acid hydra) at 6 level. He said everything about the class made the class to powerful so we start anew not voluntary.
Daydreamer 03-13-07, 08:55 PM	this is why i caution agaisnt any but the most experienced dms inventing new clases items spells etc.
Daftmouse 03-13-07, 08:55 PM	And what about when basically everyone I meet either cries and wets themselves from my diplomacy rolls, or wants to kill me? Why would anyone cry, run away or wet them self because of a diplomacy "roll" (I'm guessing you mean check). Maybe if you were do intimidate checks they would do that. And what does fighting you have to do with any of that. Maybe if you did do a diplomacy check got a 1 and said "Me and my dragon here did dirty things with your wife last night" when you were trying to convince them to let you through to the king, then they may attack you.
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-13-07, 09:08 PM	Good advice! Next question is "what do I do when half of the fights are dramatic and exciting, and the other half end in two rounds? And what about when basically everyone I meet either cries and wets themselves from my diplomacy rolls, or wants to kill me?" I didnīt read that.. wow... thatīs the best thread Iīve seen in months!
Willie the Duck 03-13-07, 09:57 PM	Congratulations, that was: a) True b) fair c) worthy of respect d) will not actually have sent a 13 year old into an asylum but will have stopped him from posting anything like this ever again Consider yourself held in esteem. (and I love the snarf quest reference) Thank you. Every once in a while it can be really rewarding to step back from one's own forum behavior and say, "what's really going on? who are these people and what are they really doing?" It becomes really easy to think of a thread as a contest of wills, where you get some kind of satisfaction out of "winning" against some other poster or posters. There are some people out there who seem to be genuinely addicted to being "right" in the discussions (arguments really) that they are participating in. I won't pretend I don't fall victim to those tendencies. I've seen others as too full of themselves and wanted to 'take them down a notch.' But on my better days I realize how sad that is; not only because I'm pretending that I have some real influence on that person, but because I'm basing some level of my own self esteem on my perceived ability to cause someone else to feel bad about themself in some small way. I like to think I'm better than that. So DungeonMasterTEK is just beginning to understand understand concepts such as being cool, or being sexy, and making a bunch of rookie mistakes. That sucks for him, not me. I know that because it sucked for me when I was in his position. When I was 13 I made up D&D characters (that in my mind were an alter ego, not just a character I was playing) who had 18/00 str, 18 every other score, and a 25 charisma, won all their adventures, and got to have sex with all the goddesses in the Deities and Demigods book. I also envisioned myself as the Crow, Cable, or Batman from the 1990 movie (I'm showing my age here), thought my scripts for ST:TNG were the greatest thing ever written, and thought Piers Anthony's Xanth series had realistic depictions of the relationships between the sexes. I wanted desperately to have someone tell me that I was cool, and didn't understand that I actually had to work at doing something worthy of praise to get that. So I'm not going to blame someone for not being mature NOW, because that's unfairly making that requirement at a point in time where I happen to be mature. I wasn't mature then, DungeonMasterTEK isn't mature now. Someday he will be (well, most likely, there are people that never do seem to gain social graces or mature attitudes, and historically they have gravitated to RPGs). Hopefully at that point, he won't be on whatever has replaced internet forums making fun of the 13 year olds who don't happen to be mature at that point in time.
Garble Willowwits 03-13-07, 10:16 PM	Someone needs to lock this thread... But before that happens, Tek, I'd reccommend playing your character's half-Dragon son. Preferably locked away in time or something until his father is just a myth. Give you a chance for a Legacy Weapon, and gives everyone else a chance to get back in the game without feeling overshadowed.
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-13-07, 10:29 PM	Someone needs to lock this thread... But before that happens, Tek, I'd reccommend playing your character's half-Dragon son. Preferably locked away in time or something until his father is just a myth. Give you a chance for a Legacy Weapon, and gives everyone else a chance to get back in the game without feeling overshadowed. I donīt think he is going to play like that. I believe if he took you idea seriously, it would be somethink like "Luke Skywalker, son of Anakin Skywalker".
Melayl 03-13-07, 10:29 PM	Ya know, it sounds to me like the OP had a lot of fun, and his/her DM did as well. What's the problem with that? Isn't that what the point of D&D is?? Having fun? Sure, it sounds like the way many (probably most) of us used to play when we were younger -- what's the problem with that? We don't need to rip some kid's ego to shreds over a game that we aren't even part of. Give him and the rest of us a break -- post CONstructive criticism next time, please.
TRCEttin 03-13-07, 11:05 PM	Ya know, it sounds to me like the OP had a lot of fun, and his/her DM did as well. What's the problem with that? Isn't that what the point of D&D is?? Having fun? I think most people posted because the OP reads a lot like a weak question posted as an excuse to make a brag post. But hey, he stopped posting, so this thread isn't getting anywhere now. :(
Lecen_of_Mitran 03-14-07, 08:30 AM	Ya know, it sounds to me like the OP had a lot of fun, and his/her DM did as well. What's the problem with that? Isn't that what the point of D&D is?? Having fun? Sure, it sounds like the way many (probably most) of us used to play when we were younger -- what's the problem with that? We don't need to rip some kid's ego to shreds over a game that we aren't even part of. Give him and the rest of us a break -- post CONstructive criticism next time, please. You should read again his first post. He said that all the other players left the game, and now itīs only him and the DM (or, as some people here think, HE is the DM). I donīt believe thatīs fun in your game.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-14-07, 09:19 AM	Ya know, it sounds to me like the OP had a lot of fun, and his/her DM did as well. What's the problem with that? Isn't that what the point of D&D is?? Having fun? No, the point of D&D is having fun as a group. When the rest of the players quit cos one player and the DM are engaged in a mutual stroke-fest then that is most certainly a problem.
Melayl 03-14-07, 02:46 PM	You should read again his first post. He said that all the other players left the game, and now itīs only him and the DM (or, as some people here think, HE is the DM). I donīt believe thatīs fun in your game. Your point being...? Maybe the others moved/graduated/whatever. Maybe they did get tired of playing in the same group. The point is that he and the DM still had fun. And if he is the DM, big deal. He was still having fun. No, the point of D&D is having fun as a group. When the rest of the players quit cos one player and the DM are engaged in a mutual stroke-fest then that is most certainly a problem. To answer point 1: it was a group -- the op and the DM. However, it needn't be a group. You can game solo and still have fun. It appears to me that you are measuring his game by your standards. All I'll say in response to point 2 is that it was completely uncalled for, and most likely against the CoC. IF the other players quit because they didn't like the style, that's fine. Conflicts of style happen all the time. The point is still that the OP and the DM still had fun.
FrostHammer 03-14-07, 03:02 PM	Solo campaigns can be fun. More interactions between you and the world.
Ack 03-14-07, 04:08 PM	I have no doubt he was having fun. But was he playing D&D in any way that the rest of us here would recognise as a legitimate way to "win teh dee un dee"; that is, in a way that we would accept as being praiseworthy? Or was he just stomping his way willy-nilly through random encounters, with GM-added buffs on the situations when it looked like he might be about to lose a hit point? That is what we are debating.
Melayl 03-14-07, 11:19 PM	I have no doubt he was having fun. But was he playing D&D in any way that the rest of us here would recognise as a legitimate way to "win teh dee un dee"; that is, in a way that we would accept as being praiseworthy? Or was he just stomping his way willy-nilly through random encounters, with GM-added buffs on the situations when it looked like he might be about to lose a hit point? That is what we are debating. That is what some of you were debating, and I didn't have a problem with those posts. I probably should have been more specific in my statements. Sorry about that. Some were just ripping on him. And that is what I had a problem with.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-15-07, 09:17 AM	To answer point 1: it was a group -- the op and the DM. However, it needn't be a group. You can game solo and still have fun. It appears to me that you are measuring his game by your standards. If they want to play solo then play solo, don't push the other players away through selfishness. The only difference in "standards" seems to be that I respect other people. All I'll say in response to point 2 is that it was completely uncalled for, and most likely against the CoC. IF the other players quit because they didn't like the style, that's fine. Conflicts of style happen all the time. The point is still that the OP and the DM still had fun. In what twisted Bizzaro-universe is it a CoC violation? :confused: The point is not the the OP and the DM had fun, the point is that the OP and the DM had fun at the other players' expense.
Melayl 03-15-07, 10:46 PM	The point is not the the OP and the DM had fun, the point is that the OP and the DM had fun at the other players' expense. And how do we know it was at the expense of the others?? The OP only said the others had left, not why. When the rest of the players quit cos one player and the DM are engaged in a mutual stroke-fest then that is most certainly a problem. It appeared (in my opinion) to sound like a personal attack. I may have misjudged it, but it was what it appeared to be to me. If I am mistaken, please let me know and I will apologize.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 03-16-07, 10:23 AM	And how do we know it was at the expense of the others?? The OP only said the others had left, not why. We don't know per se, it just seems the most likely scenario. The OP is not likely to come on here and say "all the other players left cos I am a powergaming twonk" now is he?* It appeared (in my opinion) to sound like a personal attack. I may have misjudged it, but it was what it appeared to be to me. If I am mistaken, please let me know and I will apologize. You are mistaken. An apology is unnecessary. *And before you ask, that isn't a personal attack either. That is just an example of the kind of thing that one is unlikley to say about oneself.
Melayl 03-16-07, 07:48 PM	*And before you ask, that isn't a personal attack either. That is just an example of the kind of thing that one is unlikley to say about oneself. None was assumed. I was rather tired when I was doing my other posts, didn't intend to take or give any offense. Just fuzzy-minded at the time. :)