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YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 12:04 AM	1st level, 28 point buy prioritize int and dex Shuriken Nekogami 13 years old, daughter of the cat god, try to keep this spread over 20 levels, with huge 1st level beneifits, eternally young, racial features, weapon finesse as a bonus feat, darkvision 60ft, a +2 dex bonus with a -2 str penalty, +2 int would be nice too precise blow as a feat (dex instead of str for damage rolls), but no level adjustment sheet concept for class features skill monkey ( skills by the motherlode 6-8+int), int based spontaneous caster with mild sorcerer similarities (nothing past 6th level spells though, but got a good amount of 1st level spells at level 1) good saves, reflex and will, (reflex was beter than will, in fact her reflex was amazing) add int to ac, with a bonus similar to the monk, + uncanny dodge + light armor sneak attack (she was quick to strike vital points, and this worked on any creature, regardless of anatomy, simply requiring an attack from the back or the sides, maybe flank or flat footed, even just not being seen or a critical hit, usually with a corresponding limb or organ damaging effect on impact) hit die either d4 or d6, (even a few d8's) bab would probably be 17 or higher by level 20. her weapons of choice were, throwing projectiles, shortbows, shortswords, daggers, rapiers, ninja to and wakizashis. didn't need material components of any kind for her makeshift arcana. (she drew from within, with a kind of latent energy) no failure in light armor, nor penalty, as well as having higher max dex. uber high crit ratio, (would crit an average of 60% of the time) started off with lightning bolts (no d6 limit), invisibility, and blink, (blink worded as flash step) later gained mage hand and predestignation, her invisibility evolved into greater invisibility, she picked up a few teleportation spells, though she was already quick insane skill in the following, concentration, lockpicking, trap disabling, appraising, tumbling, escaping bindings, diplomacy, hiding, silent movement, dancing, sleight of hand, crafting poisons, and equipment, reading scrolls, gathering information, using rope or magic devices, listening, searching, spotting, disguise, arcane knowledge, odd jobs, quick draw, dodging like mad, picking pockets, critting, casting lower level spells without components (6th or lower) buffing her dexterity even higher she was nimble, smart, agile, playful, affectionate to those close to her, (but a recluse to those she rarelly sees) mischievious, (she loved trouble, chaos and discord) light footed, childishly cute, (in an anime loli sort of way), graceful, (in a feline sort of way) a skilled caster, (though she lacked 7th-9th level spells) a pickpocket, (her way of survival, as well as easy money) a vagabond, (adventurerer) she picked up her first couple of spells when she was 9, picked her first pocket and slew her first victim at the age of 4, but technically she is incapable of giving birth. she dresses in forest green on jet black, but she sees in the dark like a dwarf. her appearance (forest green oversized shirt, shortsleeve, black forearm sleeves seperate from the shirt, black "short" shorts, green socks that were rather tall, black running sneakers, (modeled like reeboks) a black scarf, green gloves, and the occasional black headband, modeled like that of domon kasshu, or even a black cloak, her hair was dark brown, curling bangs in the front, and on the sides, long curls, short but mid length in the back, down to mid neck, but stopping at upper neck, were two vertical braids hanging off of a horizontal one, in a yuffie kisaragi fashion. her eyes were hazel, swapping between green brown and gold. her skin was pale, in an almost elven fashion, and she was as slim as the average elf, but lighter) any builds, that can replicate this build from levels 1-20, following level 1 classes are accepted in the build anything with at least 87% of the following good reflex saves (must start with this) sneak attack int based spontaneous spellcasting (start with 1st level spells, doesn't go above 6th level sorcerer wizard spells, must start with this) a crapload of skillpoints (minimum, 6+int) d4, d6 or d8 hit dice, averaging at or close to 6 hit points per 2 levels. (before con, at rate of 1/2 hd per level) 90% of the listed proficiencies (preferably, shortbow, shortsword and rapier) almost all of the above skills as class skills, (rogue list or beguiler list) an ac bonus similar to the monks, but int based instead of wis based, and usable in light armor (doesn't have to be first, but would be preferred) armored mage, light uses int on listen and spot checks bab at least 16 or 17 by level 20 must eventually get uncanny dodge as many sneak attack dice as possible, (flank, flatfooted, backstab, sidestrike, blind spot, any creature by epic) any material works for this, (rpga legal) roguish caster, going from ranged to melee over time. how would you spread this over 20 levels, statistically if i could mimic this freeform char entirely, the only neccessary stats would be dexterity, consititution and intellegence, dexterity replaces strength in everything except carrying capacity, and intellegence would be doing the jobs of wisdom and charisma in complete entirity. T.A.D. (triple attribute dependancy) and TPD (Triple dump stats)
KruniacZio 01-30-08, 01:38 AM	A 13 year old Asian girl? A Chaotic Evil character's dream. That aside, it sounds br0k3n. Anyways, Im not an expert on balance.
Zeffienes 01-30-08, 02:18 AM	It seems that you're looking for something Asiatic in feel. That being said, the desire to have such customizability probably should redirect you to another system. I'd recommend BESM (Big Eyes Small Mouth) since it has the rules to support your "ideal character".
kelvinaw273 01-30-08, 04:27 AM	Level 1? No way - daughter of a cat god would have one hell of a level adjustment! Sounds like an uber-niko to me ...
Sakaki22 01-30-08, 07:38 AM	You admitted in another forum thread that this character was designed for Gaia Online. Now, I've been a freeform RPer for longer than I've played D&D (1999 for freeform, 2003 for d20), and one thing I learned in transition is that in freeform, power means everything, while in a true rpg system, balance means everything. The character you're asking for isn't a Dungeons & Dragons character. If you'd like, we can help convert it's abilities over to the D&D ruleset. But, from personal experience, it may be best to make a whole new character for D&D, then if you insist on combining D&D and freeform, lead D&D characters into a ruleless world. It's easier to convert them that way. On a final note, you asked for help making this character four times in the span of two hours, in three different subforums. Don't do that. It's a waste, slightly irritating, and I believe against the Terms of Service.
YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 02:59 PM	Level 1? No way - daughter of a cat god would have one hell of a level adjustment! Sounds like an uber-niko to me ... the only thing being related to the cat god provides, is no aging past a certain point, darkvision, and some extra dexterity and intellegence, at the cost of a bit of strength and constitution, weapon finesse would be her bonus feat. how would spread this over 20 levels. she appears perfectly human. the cat god is more of an infernal feyish deity. (think higher end yokai) freeform considered her underpowered. we'll have to swap a few things. consider weapon finesse the free feat for human if human or such. not at level 1 entirely, but spread over 20 levels. a child of a god, doesn't have to inherit uber powers, they could just get minor traits. i was planning on a revised nekogami variant with weapon finesse, preciseblow, and darkvision 60 feet. but i don't know if the dm allows nekogami, they are balanced in yaba's numbers, but lacking in ability. (weaker than the gray elf's 4 feats)
YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 03:12 PM	A 13 year old Asian girl? A Chaotic Evil character's dream. That aside, it sounds br0k3n. Anyways, Im not an expert on balance. not to mention, she think's she's a ninja. she transitions from ranged combat mistress, to melee goddess over time, still retaining ranged combat, technically she doesn't used 7th-9th level spells (oops, no wish) but overstocks on low level spells.
YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 03:38 PM	A 13 year old Asian girl? A Chaotic Evil character's dream. That aside, it sounds br0k3n. Anyways, Im not an expert on balance. if i could mimic this freeform char entirely, the only neccessary stats would be dexterity, consititution and intellegence, dexterity replaces strength in everything except carrying capacity, and intellegence would be doing the jobs of wisdom and charisma.
Zeffienes 01-30-08, 03:54 PM	no aging past a certain point This is a very high-leveled Druid or Monk class ability. Having it at level one, while not being the best thing out there, is still a problem. Overstocking on low level spells is a problem. Greasing the entire battlefield spells broken, IMO, and at later levels you're still looking at high amounts of low-level spells. Those low level spells aren't half bad, you know. No, I'm being crazy, spells have amazing potential. Anyways, triple posting's also a bad thing, so make sure you don't do that XD.
YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 03:57 PM	This is a very high-leveled Druid or Monk class ability. Having it at level one, while not being the best thing out there, is still a problem. it's not like your age will change much in a campaign, no middle aged old or venerable categories, doesn't just strip the penalties, it strips the bonuses too. so you would have to know that there are no age categories period for this char.
YamiShinobi 01-30-08, 04:25 PM	You admitted in another forum thread that this character was designed for Gaia Online. Now, I've been a freeform RPer for longer than I've played D&D (1999 for freeform, 2003 for d20), and one thing I learned in transition is that in freeform, power means everything, while in a true rpg system, balance means everything. The character you're asking for isn't a Dungeons & Dragons character. If you'd like, we can help convert it's abilities over to the D&D ruleset. But, from personal experience, it may be best to make a whole new character for D&D, then if you insist on combining D&D and freeform, lead D&D characters into a ruleless world. It's easier to convert them that way. On a final note, you asked for help making this character four times in the span of two hours, in three different subforums. Don't do that. It's a waste, slightly irritating, and I believe against the Terms of Service. i would love to see this character in D&D, probably it might be suboptimal, (spread really thin, converted to ruleset, but still pretty much being the same with minimal revision. a freeform character i always wanted to play in D&D, she'd be discovering ability after ability.)
Eikre 02-03-08, 06:14 PM	Funny. My first freeform character was a 45-year-old mace-and-axe guy with a fat wife. Transitioned over to DnD perfectly!