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JPWolfie 04-16-07, 04:31 PM	We started a new campaign and we are playing with a younger person, who is NPC'ing as an Aristocrat Prince... our Cleric is under his charge, and we also have rescued an Elvish Druid Princess and have been placed with a Rogue in our party. I just joined this crew as a Monk via my god, which is the same Deity as the Cleric. Inside a room there was a chest, there was a flash trap, then there was treasure in it, which the Rogue swiped. He passed his bluff check with the Cleric, but not with the Prince or Princess. Would the Cleric believe the Rogue over the Prince and Princess? Granted, the Rogue has not stolen anything prior. The Rogue's argument is that we would not know what he had beforehand and whether it was his before or not. What was taken? A ruby ring with diamonds set in platinum and a Elven Amulet. Just looking for some outside thoughts.
PwnageLlama 04-16-07, 07:12 PM	I would think the cleric would beilieve the price and princess. They have nothing to gain from lying, while the rogue would.
JPWolfie 04-16-07, 11:35 PM	See, I agree with you, but the Cleric left it up to the dice and lost. So the two nobles still distrust him, but the Cleric is going with his gut. I was going to confront, but was told it would be his word against ours, so I did not push the issue.
Comus 04-17-07, 12:38 AM	He'd believe the Rogue, and think the Prince and Princess are mistaken. This is what the Bluff skill is for. Now, even if he believes the Rogue, he may well want to appease the Prince and Princess enough that he'd ask the Rogue to turn out his pockets - and the Cleric would expect them to be empty, and be surprised if they weren't.
danielinthewolvesden 04-17-07, 03:34 AM	We started a new campaign and we are playing with a younger person, who is NPC'ing as an Aristocrat Prince... Inside a room there was a chest, there was a flash trap, then there was treasure in it, which the Rogue swiped. And you tell me that the "younger person" is playing the hat OOCAristocrat Prince, and not the rogue? :rolleyes: Because that is generally the behaviour of players who are 12- at least mentally. Talk to the DM and all the players OOC. Tell them you do not like this kind of stuff as it is disruptive and devisive and a bad influence on the "kid". It's an OOC problem with a player with a 12yo mentality. No IC argument or RPing will work. Well, there is one thing. If talking with the DM does not work, and the other players are in agreement with you, try this "Rogue, we have decided we just plain do not like your face. We are leaving you as you are no longer part of this party." When he asks why do not say anything about the theft. If he- as a player- can decide his PC is a sociopathic klepto, YOU, as a player can decide your PC just plain does not like him. If his excuse is "it's just what my character would do" then that excuse works equally the other way! :schemes: :evillaugh In a way, it is the rogue player- and the DM- cheating. The "unspoken rule" is that the party will accept any PC that the DM allows, even if they woudl really check him out or just not accept anyone like that. And that is fine. It just plain is not fun for a player to come up with a cool PC that the DM says is OK, then have the Party reject him IC. But that also means that a player should not take advantage of the "unspoken rule" and foist a clearly disruptive PC on the other players. DM's should realize the unspoken rule and disallow any disputive PC's first so the players do not have to suffer through this kind of steer manure.