Post/Author/DateTime	Post
clanner 07-31-04, 07:15 PM	I was wandering if there was anything in dnd that is close to the swiss/german zweishander? this is a 5-7 foot sword carried with the leather rapped lower portion of the blade on the soldier and was generally a slash type weapon. I am aware that a greatsword is close to this but not quite as large.if anyone has other questions of the same sort such as a three segment staff, etc. feel free to post.
Thomar_of_Uointer 07-31-04, 07:16 PM	Exotic Masterwork Greatsword, a la Katana.
masterofmayhem 07-31-04, 07:18 PM	I recall someone somewhere around here once comparing something called a "Fullblade" to a flamberge. Although I have no idea what it was. I could be mistaken, though.
clanner 07-31-04, 07:27 PM	katana? I do not understand? is the blade strieght? is the hilt end wrapped in leather? or is it curved?. a flamberge is a term used on a weapon that has a douple edged sword with a sort or wav pattern going the entire length of the blade. this is used on rapiers, zweishaders, and oher european weapons with a double edged blade.
masterofmayhem 07-31-04, 07:35 PM	What he means is that you can make a zweishander. All you have to do is make it an exotic weapon which functions exactly as a greatsword and call it a zweishander. Maybe you throw in some other extra bonuses in there or something.
ClementWillowbreaker 07-31-04, 07:37 PM	I would make it a two handed exotic weapon, 3d6 slashing, as a Large Greatsword. Or perhaps 2d8 would be more sensible- one higher on the damage chart, as opposed to the size chart...
clanner 07-31-04, 07:37 PM	thank you for explaining.
masterofmayhem 07-31-04, 07:38 PM	Not a problem.:)
Lord_Naerik 07-31-04, 07:42 PM	I think by Katana he just means an Exotic weapon, not a literal Katana. The closest thing to a Zweihander would be a Fullblade, a 7 foot+ sword also known as the "Ogre's Greatsword". Fullblade -Two Handed Exotic Weapon -Slashing -2d8 Damage -19-20/x2 Threat Range Check the Arms and Equipment Guide for full description.
Vaelan 07-31-04, 08:22 PM	Zweihanders are no larger than traditional two-handed swords(Greatswords). Zweihanders were, in fact, often lighter and slightly smaller than a two-handed sword so that it is easier to make use of its prominent feature: the parrying lugs and slightly extended cross-guard. This is how I'd stat a zweihander... Martial weapon as Greatsword, since there is really very little difference between them. Exotic weapon as Greatsword with a +1 parrying bonus to AC and +2 to disarm attempts.
a_psh 08-01-04, 12:50 AM	I'd just use greatsword stats for it. No real need to make up news weapons if they are already covered or at least closely approximated by the existing set.
pres_man 08-01-04, 10:48 AM	I like the idea of 12 being the max damage for medium characters normally (greataxe - 1d12, greatsword - 2d6), so maybe an exotic weapon that does 3d4 damage.
masterofmayhem 08-01-04, 04:27 PM	Originally posted by pres_man I like the idea of 12 being the max damage for medium characters normally (greataxe - 1d12, greatsword - 2d6), so maybe an exotic weapon that does 3d4 damage. Yeah, but d4s are annoying to "roll." Besides, not everyone has 3 d4s. I have about 20 d6s, but only 2 d4s. ;)
Mitchell 08-02-04, 03:51 AM	3d4 isn't worth an EWP vs. 2d6. It's only .5 greater average damage, and the average chance for max damage drops from 1 in 36 to 1 in 64. The sword is a greatsword. You want the hilt end wrapped in leather? Okay. Does this change the performance of the sword? No. You want it to be however long you want it to be? Fine. Does it change the performance of the sword? No. If you absolutely want something different, ask your DM about using great axe stats for your sword. Doesn't change weight, damage, damage type, or crit range... In effect you will have a greataxe that looks like a sword. As far as the name, call it a 2X4 if you want to... It's your sword.
SALDAR 08-02-04, 04:28 AM	masterofmayhem, Only 2 d4s? You don't play wizards much do you? I played magic users (1e) when the Magic Missle did a d4+1 damage at every odd level, no limit. There's nothing like the sound of 10 d4s rolling on a wooden table. A better sound was the same magic user casting fireball, 19 d6s. Yes, I had (and still have) that many dice, although since 2e and 3e capped damage from spells I don't carry them all now.
masterofmayhem 08-02-04, 12:46 PM	Well, the people that I game with are slightly more dice-crazy than I, so I figure why buy more dice if I can borrow 3 of their dozen or so d4s? :angel: I must agree though, the sound of falling d6s of doom is a wonderful one.:D