Post/Author/DateTime	Post
kelvinaw273 04-11-06, 11:12 PM	That is, Rogue. Rouge is a colour, shade of red, and often used as a cosmetic. Rogue is a person who lives outside of normal social boundries. In D&D Rogue replaces the old 'Thief' class on the basis that Rogues do not necessarily steal (HAHAHA!). Pogue is another misspelling, and is gealic for 'kiss'. The Pogues are an Irish band who had to change their name to avoid being boycotted by the BBC after an irate caller told an enthusiastic DJ what Pogue Ma Hone really meant (HINT: the first two word mean Kiss My ...). This has been a public information thread on behalf of those who can spell and have heard enough of all the jokes about 'rouge' from those who think that after years of misspelling they are still funny. Thank you for your time and attention. We now return you to your normal service.
TheChilliGod 04-12-06, 12:39 AM	:rolleyes: Y'know, I've seen other forums where they actually make fun of you for trying to chastise people for their poor grammar. Yeah, "Grammar Nazis" they called those people. Honestly, so long as I can read what the others say, it shouldn't cause much of a fuss. Some people don't have English as their first language, and some others may not have actually gotten a university degree in Language. Some may just type so fast that they switch letters or mess up on the keyboard, and some may just like to peev you off. Also, some may spell by saying the word. Try saying 'rogue.' It sounds a lot like the 'U' comes before the 'G,' doesn't it? Sympathy before Apathy.
Vacerious 04-12-06, 12:43 AM	That is, Rogue. Rouge is a colour, shade of red, and often used as a cosmetic. Rogue is a person who lives outside of normal social boundries. In D&D Rogue replaces the old 'Thief' class on the basis that Rogues do not necessarily steal (HAHAHA!). Pogue is another misspelling, and is gealic for 'kiss'. The Pogues are an Irish band who had to change their name to avoid being boycotted by the BBC after an irate caller told an enthusiastic DJ what Pogue Ma Hone really meant (HINT: the first two word mean Kiss My ...). This has been a public information thread on behalf of those who can spell and have heard enough of all the jokes about 'rouge' from those who think that after years of misspelling they are still funny. Thank you for your time and attention. We now return you to your normal service. Call me a 'Grammar Nazi' if you wish but... Amen, brother! Heil Kelvinaw!
shadowfox628 04-12-06, 12:44 AM	ChilliGod has a point. Unless you have no idea of what they're trying to say, don't say anything. Correct yourself, ask others what they mean if you can't decipher what they wrote, but don't lecture people on it. People hate that.
Vaalingrade Ashland 04-12-06, 12:53 AM	And the appropriate term for this kind of thread is spelled S-P-A-M.
kelvinaw273 04-12-06, 12:55 AM	And the appropriate term for this kind of thread is spelled S-P-A-M. I thought spam was unwanted junk e-mail? Get the right term, please.
The White Sorcerer 04-12-06, 02:10 AM	I thought spam was unwanted junk e-mail? Get the right term, please. I thought spam was a meat product? Get the right term, please.
Demonfey 04-12-06, 02:17 AM	These days, spam also has taken on an aspect for forums like these. Making threads that are meant to only be one post, making a thread and bumping it consantly, and other similar acts can be considered spam.
Black Kitten 04-12-06, 02:48 AM	I thought spam was unwanted junk e-mail? Get the right term, please. Spam also applies to this. It's about everything that is unwantedly repeated, such as... the spelling of rouge/rogue/dief/thief/whatever. This is a D&D forum, we know that there's no-one going to talk about the color RED on this forum by calling it rouge. If they want to talk about the colour, they'll call it red.
Betrayer_of_light 04-12-06, 03:49 AM	Pogue is another misspelling, and is gealic for 'kiss'. The Pogues are an Irish band who had to change their name to avoid being boycotted by the BBC after an irate caller told an enthusiastic DJ what Pogue Ma Hone really meant (HINT: the first two word mean Kiss My ...). Actually, it's póg mo thoin. Trust me on this, we study it in school over here, being Irish. Get the term right, please. Seriously, though, I'm not berating you, it's just that threads like this really don't serve much purpose. The fact that I'm prolonging it's death throes is, perhaps, hypocritical, but que serra serrai. (That's only probably right.) Either way, it'd prolly be best for this public service announcement to go the same way as they always do: Smile, nod, turn away and forget you ever saw it. It's how it goes.
kelvinaw273 04-12-06, 03:50 AM	I appologise profusely to the community for raising this clearly trivial matter. I humbly tender my appologies also for wasting valuable board-time people have spent reading this. Clearly the bad puns about rouge are not irritating anybody but me, and the fact that half the people here cannot even copy the word 'rogue' from the umpteen D&D rule books correctly cannot possibly detract from their ability to read said books carefully, as you are all quite clearly absolute masters of all you survay in that regard. I shall bow out of this thread of SPAM now and not breath another word, so that it may die the death it so truly deserves.
chaz100 04-12-06, 04:56 AM	Didn't someone make a Rouge class, as a joke? Long live Rogues!
Witch 04-12-06, 05:22 AM	ChilliGod has a point. Unless you have no idea of what they're trying to say, don't say anything. Correct yourself, ask others what they mean if you can't decipher what they wrote, but don't lecture people on it. People hate that. Faults should not be tolerated. No, we shouldn't be incredibly mad at them for making mistakes. But we should correct them nevertheless.
Fenris78 04-12-06, 05:59 AM	Faults should not be tolerated. No, we shouldn't be incredibly mad at them for making mistakes. But we should correct them nevertheless. Roger that. And sadly, I find a lot of the people with English as a second or third language actually have a better grasp of it than some native speakers. The "sod it you knew what I meant" approach isn't acceptible lest we al end up speekin liek dis. I can konvey my piont but it can be painfull to reed :weep:
ProfWhy 04-12-06, 06:41 AM	I appologise profusely to the community for raising this clearly trivial matter. I humbly tender my appologies also for wasting valuable board-time people have spent reading this. Clearly the bad puns about rouge are not irritating anybody but me, and the fact that half the people here cannot even copy the word 'rogue' from the umpteen D&D rule books correctly cannot possibly detract from their ability to read said books carefully, as you are all quite clearly absolute masters of all you survay in that regard. I shall bow out of this thread of SPAM now and not breath another word, so that it may die the death it so truly deserves. For someone who complained about another person's spelling, you need to invest in a spell-checker of your own, just judging from your last post (quoted above)... I mean, you know what they say about people and glass houses...
Wargamer 04-12-06, 06:57 AM	I'm no grammar nazi... but there's a difference between making a mistake once, and making it constantly. That said, some words like "Camouflage" confuse me immensely... I honestly don't know whether that spelling, or "camoflague" is correct. I suspect the former, but still... But come on, "Rogue"? It's five letters... admittedly, it's not pronounced how you spell it, but a basic knowledge of French is all you need. You all do know basic French, right? :rolleyes:
Terraneaux 04-12-06, 07:07 AM	The funny thing is that it's not like the topic came up in casual conversation. It's written in the player's handbook, probably over a hundred times. And people still misspell it, chronically.
DIESCUMDIE 04-12-06, 08:02 AM	Rogue= I cunning character Rouge= An annoying drama sink, who thinks the game should revolve around our embarresment at him. Whose character probably wears rouge, and is a man. You can call fighters warriors, or wizards mages, or whatnot, its just the rouge thing is a bit annoying. And use full stops and line breaks. And Dont Get Angry At Other Posters For No Good Reason Dammit!!! :headexplo
DorsetDas 04-12-06, 10:32 AM	Ok had to post as I have one small problem with this post!!! I am Dyslexic and have a problem with putting letters always in the right order. I have done the rouge rogue thing before for some of us we can't visually see it so how about some understanding as we are not all perfect and spelling is not the end of the world as you understand it. Grammer nazi is harsh though. LOL if you enjoy complaining, complain away. Dave
LCD2YOU 04-12-06, 11:25 AM	Eye hav know problum with the weigh rouge iz spelt. SPAM, the other other mystery meat.
DaMullet 04-12-06, 11:46 AM	Actually, it's not a mystery. It's a loaf of spiced ham, made primarily of the parts that don't fit easily in other categories (ankle meat, excess bacon-ey area, etc.) and contains no 'mystery' at all. If you go to Minnesota there's a museum dedicated to it. There's also an annual festival every summer in Austin, Texas.
LCD2YOU 04-12-06, 11:52 AM	Da Mullet: :P
Tristan 04-12-06, 12:29 PM	These days, spam also has taken on an aspect for forums like these. Making threads that are meant to only be one post, making a thread and bumping it consantly, and other similar acts can be considered spam.....stupid . ^ I felt this was required
rockondon 04-12-06, 12:44 PM	I too am somewhat unsettled by watching people repeatedly misspell rogue. *hides grammar nazi badge*
AesirRaven 04-12-06, 12:55 PM	I just find it humorous that the OP went off on people misspelling "rogue" as "rouge" and then promptly misspelled -- and did not capitalize -- "Gaelic". I'm all for correcting errors and encouraging proper spelling, but if you're gonna do it, don't flub it. :rolleyes: :P ;)
DorsetDas 04-12-06, 01:36 PM	Personnally cant see any reason why people would want to get upset about any spelling as you know what they mean and mistakes happen also some people do have probs with spelling and grammer but heh some people get excited about small things. Anyway have to go and work on my rouge and my barbican. Dave
fatal error 04-12-06, 01:56 PM	Careful ProfWhy, people can report you for less :shifty: :shifty: I too find the incorrect spelling of rogue disturbing not only for its frequency but also for the fact that it is plainly spelled out in a ton of D&D books. Also, if english is your second language I recommend putting your native country in your location area. That way if anyone corrects your spelling to an irritating degree you can tell them english isn't your first language and they shall feel sheepish. However, I find a lot of the ridiculously awful spelling and/or grammar posts on these and other boards are perpetrated by those who do have english as their first language. Unfortunately these are not always 10 year olds either. Bottom line is, one or two mistakes in spelling or grammar warrants no attention. Misspelling rogue warrants a quick comment at the end of your otherwise helpful post. Close to unreadable grammar and/or spelling warrants a serious comment along with a helpful reply. Completely unreadable grammar and/or spelling to the extent that you cannot figure out the question, you should perhaps post asking what they're talking about. Which should be enough of a comment on their spelling and/or grammar to not have to elaborate on how awful it is. But that's just my system of course.
Witch 04-12-06, 01:57 PM	I agree that noone has to be upset about it. But I do think we should correct it.
Andrew_980 04-12-06, 02:18 PM	For all who cry "this will be the death of the english language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" We are currently using misspelling/pronounciations of older words, thats right spelling Nazis, you are guilty for not using "ye olde queen's english" so you are no better. hell in the future it may be rouge and people would look down at you.
green_yawgmoth 04-12-06, 02:24 PM	^^^ guess what, we aren't in 16th century europe, we're in 21st century USA. This is how we spell things now, and that is how we shall correct them. Maybe things will be spelled differently in 500 years, but since neither of us will be alive to find out, it hardly matters. Faults should not be tolerated. No, we shouldn't be incredibly mad at them for making mistakes. But we should correct them nevertheless. Agreed. I shouldn't have to whip out a cipher to read someone's post. We aren't in a lightning fast chat here, it's a bloody forum. It isn't hard to take an extra 5 seconds to proofread and spell out whole words like "you", and figure out the correct form of their/they're/there. And if english isn't your second language, guess what! You should either be fluent enough to where we can't tell, or posting on a french (or whatever language) forum. And if you find a typo in your post, use the damn edit button. It's there for a reason. http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
metamind 04-12-06, 05:27 PM	Most posters are just too exited to get their replies on a thread, that they accidently put the "u" before the "g". Its annoying, but who really gives a rat's ass?
AesirRaven 04-12-06, 05:53 PM	Most posters are just too exited to get their replies on a thread, that they accidently put the "u" before the "g". Its annoying, but who really gives a rat's ass? One rodent posterior, coming right up! :rolleyes:
ProfWhy 04-12-06, 05:59 PM	Careful ProfWhy, people can report you for less :shifty: :shifty: This is fine -- if someone wanted to report me over my statement, that's their right.
DorsetDas 04-12-06, 06:12 PM	Heh some people must have little better to do than moan about the placement of a o and a u!!! Sad but heh if it annonys you that much dont read any posts and stop moaning. As someone who is dyslexic it very hard to type in a correct post at times I get things wrong if that is a problem for you fine but to tell you the truth I dont care!!!!!!!!! If I slip a or a u in the wrong place and you are upset well it your problem I have more important things in my life to get upset about you lot don't. Ooopsss was that tooooo harsh. Is the fact I put so many oooooo atfer my to wrong as well I wonder!
metamind 04-12-06, 06:42 PM	One rodent posterior, coming right up! :rolleyes: I saw that coming...
DarthMarasmus 04-12-06, 06:51 PM	For the love of God, spell check exists for a reason. Grammar exists for a reason. Just use spell check, ignore those words that it picks as "misspelled" (or is it "mispelled?") that are from fantasy or rules (such as "Drizz't" or "AC"), and correct accordingly. With grammar, at least make an attempt at correctly punctuating, don't give us a post that is made up entirely of one run-on sentence! Capitalize letters at the beginning of sentences and at the beginning of proper names (and only capitalize "God" when referring to Jehovah!!). The purpose of punctuation is so that sentences are separated from each other in a logical and easily readable manner. One of the main requirements for a civilization is that it has a written language (not necessarily a unique writing system). Civilizations are measured by their writing, for example, ancient Egypt by their heiroglyphics, ancient Greece by their theatre (I prefer the old spelling), and ancient Rome by their political works. How would posterity measure us, by the rubbish we spew forth on the Internet? God, I hope not. [EDIT] Oh, silly me, I didn't notice that there is no spell check on here. My bad. :confused:
Trarth 04-12-06, 07:01 PM	But my reply to threader doesn't have spell check! what ever shall I do?!
Demonfey 04-12-06, 07:03 PM	Why are we keeping this thread alive?
Ozymandias V. 04-12-06, 07:07 PM	That is, Rogue. Rouge is a colour, shade of red, and often used as a cosmetic. Rogue is a person who lives outside of normal social boundries. In D&D Rogue replaces the old 'Thief' class on the basis that Rogues do not necessarily steal (HAHAHA!). Pogue is another misspelling, and is gealic for 'kiss'. The Pogues are an Irish band who had to change their name to avoid being boycotted by the BBC after an irate caller told an enthusiastic DJ what Pogue Ma Hone really meant (HINT: the first two word mean Kiss My ...). This has been a public information thread on behalf of those who can spell and have heard enough of all the jokes about 'rouge' from those who think that after years of misspelling they are still funny. Thank you for your time and attention. We now return you to your normal service. Here are your cookies. :cookie: :cookie: (I'd give you a medal but they don't have an icon for it.)
Waterhammer 04-12-06, 11:34 PM	It is spelled "it" not rogue :cool:
Molitor 04-13-06, 01:25 AM	I consider bad grammar a gauge of another's intellect and treat that person accordingly. Just honest. Making one mistake in a post is one thing but constantly spelling something wrong is ................
Templetroll 04-13-06, 02:15 AM	When you are stuck in Key West after a hurricane with no power SPAM tastes great when grilled! :D
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 03:36 AM	OK so how do you spell colour/color? There are spelling differences depending where you come from as well maybe we should pick on those people as well.
Molitor 04-13-06, 03:55 AM	When you are stuck in Key West after a hurricane with no power SPAM tastes great when grilled! :D WOW, I think Key West would rock without power. I've been there once and LOVED it.
Wargamer 04-13-06, 04:53 AM	OK so how do you spell colour/color? There are spelling differences depending where you come from as well maybe we should pick on those people as well. Colour is spelt Colour. Bastardisation based on geographical location in a world of global linquistics is a weak excuse. If you're going to use English, learn to spell in English.
Twotall 04-13-06, 05:03 AM	^^^ guess what, we aren't in 16th century europe, we're in 21st century USA. No, we're not! I haven't set foot in USA for two years!
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 07:10 AM	hmmm In old English Colour was spelt color. The US kept the origional spelling and the English changed it. Being neither English or American I am stating this fact as a neutral and to show how silly being SENSITIVE about spelling can be. Always get at least one person when you bring up the colour/color converstaion!!!!!! And look I did LOL!!! Dave
Wargamer 04-13-06, 08:10 AM	hmmm In old English Colour was spelt color. The US kept the origional spelling and the English changed it. And Eggs were called Eggys, and Egren. Go back far enough, and we spoke something so detached from modern English that we wouldn't recognise it... your point? Old English is dead as a spoken language. Modern English is not, thus Colour is still the valid spelling. Being neither English or American I am stating this fact as a neutral and to show how silly being SENSITIVE about spelling can be. Always get at least one person when you bring up the colour/color converstaion!!!!!! And look I did LOL!!! Dave That depends on your definition of "Get", now doesn't it... If by "get" you mean "get a reply", then yes. If by "get" you mena "get someone annoyed", then I see no evidence of success. Either way, you are, by your own admission, trolling. Shall we see if the mods "get" that? :doh:
Witch 04-13-06, 08:16 AM	And Eggs were called Eggys, and Egren. Go back far enough, and we spoke something so detached from modern English that we wouldn't recognise it... your point? Old English is dead as a spoken language. Modern English is not, thus Colour is still the valid spelling. Colour is the valid spelling in England, color is the valid spelling in America. Just be consistent. If you spell one word in American English, don't spell the next in standard English.
Ozymandias V. 04-13-06, 10:39 AM	The complaint that started this tangent is not only unsound, but invalid as well. Saying rouge instead of rogue is not the same as saying colour instead of color. "Colour" is correct in some countries. "Rouge" is not, nor has it ever been. (And I swear, if you try to say "Rouge means red and therefore the argument is correct olololo" I will GUT YOU LIKE A TROUT.)
Witch 04-13-06, 10:44 AM	If someone writes Rowge, I will not protest, however!
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 11:06 AM	Heh it get a reply never claimed annonying anyone. What I think people fail to realise is how petty all this sounds the colour/color converstaion proves it. Some peeps get petty (is that how you spell it) when it comes to something as small as spelling. As stated earlier I am DYSLEXIC and have on many occassions spelt rouge and rogue my group laugh it off and say will I play any other kind of colour/color next week? They don't get upset with people for typing errors especially when they may have what is now classified as a special need. Of course if some of you wish to insult me or others who have difficulty with spelling because you are soooo perfect that is fine I'm big enough to understand how small you are! Have to say this is a boring thread now so I'm off to misspell throughout the world, just a thought wonder if my Wizard can cast Migic Maissle now! Dave
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 11:08 AM	Oooppps only noticed I was accused off trolling sorry if I was. What is trolling? Sorry not into all the in words on the net am very very very old. Dave
Geoste 04-13-06, 11:32 AM	OK so how do you spell colour/color? There are spelling differences depending where you come from as well maybe we should pick on those people as well. COLOR is pretty much only used in the USA. COLOUR is British/UK English and is used in many european countries as well as Canada. However, since US media has permeated the world, the spelling of "color" has begun to take precedence in people's minds. Also, since you bring up dyslexia: shouldn't people spell words correctly so that those who are dyslexic can know the proper spelling if they choose to look it up? Or shall we give you the right of way only because you can't be bothered? Spelling something wrong by accident is one thing, but laziness is another matter entirely. Since you are dyslexic, people should give you more leeway in your spelling, yes, but only if you are honestly trying. DorsetDas, I can see that you are trying, so that's really cool.
Wargamer 04-13-06, 11:37 AM	As stated earlier I am DYSLEXIC I am numerically dyslexic. It's not an excuse... in the real world, you have to get it right! When I feth-up writing down someone's address, or telephone number, it could cost my business a job; a job that could be anything from a £50 repair to a £14,000 conservatory. When you get it wrong, you go back and correct it.
DarthMarasmus 04-13-06, 11:45 AM	Also, since you bring up dyslexia: shouldn't people spell words correctly so that those who are dyslexic can know the proper spelling if they choose to look it up? Or shall we give you the right of way only because you can't be bothered? Spelling something wrong by accident is one thing, but laziness is another matter entirely. Since you are dyslexic, people should give you more leeway in your spelling, yes, but only if you are honestly trying. Howard Johnson is right!
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 11:47 AM	Nah dont HAVE to get it right. It wont cost me anything for not spelling anything wrong. Even in my job I have spelt things wrong and its an aid as it makes the kids realise you are human. Am a teacher and find it very hard to teach with my problem but do my best gives me a better understanding of how people find it hard and rather than flame em I help them. Problem with this post is a few people seem to get upset if someone spells rouge instead of rogue. Not sure who dies when this is written but have to say if someone has a prob and is trying to not make mistakes the helpful words in these posts might put them of or insult them. Some people are trying to do their best and if its not good enough for anyones standards thats a shame but a free world and on this forum I understand if rouge goes down they mean rogue so I won't get upset. Just like I won't get upset with people who come up with stupid ideas or questions in the forum which could be sorted if they just read the rulebooks and think. And there are a lot more of those, spelling mistakes and all. Dave
DorsetDas 04-13-06, 11:51 AM	Just a thought as well. Who do know you is trying to spell right and who isn't? You say some are lazy. I would be offended and very insulted if someone called me lazy in my posts! But you have no proof any mistakes I make are lazy or genuine.
Elven Doritos 04-13-06, 12:03 PM	I'm so glad people take my private leisure time seriously. And lay off the horse, guys. It's been beaten to death. ;)