Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Taeldrin Laesrash 03-20-05, 08:55 PM	While I do roleplay, I feel like I'm not doing enough. My DM creates adventures with very odd combat, usually people with about 30 levels, and crazy magical effects for seemingly no reason (He does say they're reallly rich). We may be a strong epic-level party, but these seem nuts. I often go up to him at the end of the session and ask for our XP. I feel greedy for XP, and that I'm not appreciating the full gist of the game. Can I have some words of guidance?
Begle1 03-20-05, 09:18 PM	Stop playing epic. I've never had fun in an epic situation- the game just seriously breaks down when you have the ability to raze the entire plane. I find it much more fun when you are at fifth level and need to plan out the tactics of the assault and execute it like a SWAT team in order to avoid getting annilihated; scout before hand, figure out how to ambush the bad guys, et cetera et cetera. The game just isn't as fun when you have the ability to do almost anything with impunity; I've never seen any epic level game be that balanced or fun. It just gets annoying after a while. And when you stop having fun in a campaign, just start anew at first level. D&D isn't intended to be a chore after all...
Razoreface 03-20-05, 09:35 PM	Echo that. If you start off at epic, you don't really have anything to achieve, and even if you die, it really doesn't matter, not since 3.0. Basically all there is left is more xp. If you're not having fun, it's because your DM, or the other players, have a problem playing low level games. A lot of people don't like "being weak" and so play high high levels, but it's really missing out on things.
Capt. Pixel 03-20-05, 10:47 PM	We've played the whole range from 1st level to Epic level. This game is a lot more FUN at the lower end of the experience scale. Try it - you'll like it. :cool:
Chandaroon 03-20-05, 11:39 PM	I have never been in a game that has started above 10th level. I'm sure that I would not like it. Typically we start out at either 3rd, 4th, or 5th levels. Ususally I'm DM'ing though. I like to start as a 4th or 5th level character. We also write our character histories to reflect this high start. Writing that much background about your character gives you the opportunity to really mold the way you want your character to be perceived. At 3rd - 5th level you are still low enough to make the game interesting. You can't beat everything and you have to use your tactics. 1st to 3rd levels have a habit of killing characters quickly because they just aren't powerful enough. The other benefit of starting say at 5th level is when we are playing a higher powered campaign I allow level adjusted races. One of the best characters was my friend who played a were-tiger. Since you take a 2 level hit you really need to start out at 5th. It has also been my expirience, that people who start at high levels just don't appreciate things as much. That's my take. :)
Phrennzy 03-21-05, 01:10 AM	I missed the part where the OP states that he just started playing Epic without working from 1st up. If you feel 'greedy for XP' and that bothers you, then find another focus for your roleplaying. Give the character a goal to accomplish that doesn't take level into account. I have played since first edition, and we never made it past 11th in any honestly earned fashion. Now, with 3.0+ and our current campaign, we are at 8th. I plan to take them to 20th (at most) if it stays fun. If it stops being fun, we'll start back at 1st.