Old Races, New Names [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ClashoftheDragons

09-28-03, 11:09 PM
Need help on coming up with new names for elves, orcs, goblins, angels, demons, ect. anything!
EX. I have one for merfolk, Hydrens.
All thoughts accepted.:D
Drindin

09-28-03, 11:53 PM
Elves: Elets

Orcs: Orruk

Goblin: Gruunsh

Dragon: Winged-Beasts
Mak

09-29-03, 01:00 AM
Why???
ClashoftheDragons

09-29-03, 03:14 AM
Because everyone uses the same thing, and I want to use something different. And remember, anything from M:TG!:D
Mak

09-29-03, 03:21 AM
It would be great if you'd use them for a science or language, otherwise you'd just confuse people.

How about a Latin Dictionary? Try translating tree-people for elves, ugly-people for orcs... you know.:D

EDIT: transalting...:D I have to remember that one.
ClashoftheDragons

09-29-03, 03:36 AM
okay.................and where do I get one of those things?
Mak

09-29-03, 03:40 AM
Umm... a bookstore?

Then again... we are on the internet...
ClashoftheDragons

10-03-03, 08:06 PM
BUMP
Something else besides a Spanish Dictionary.:D
Mak

10-04-03, 03:11 AM
LATIN!!! You know, the dead language used to name species!
ClashoftheDragons

10-10-03, 02:23 AM
If you are LATIN, I'm sorry if I offended you. I want to use smething that's not already been used. sorry.:(




:D
Mak

10-10-03, 02:49 AM
No, I'm not Latin or Spanish, and I'm not angry. I just thought you assumed Spanish and Latin were the same.:D

What are you using the names for?
Mak

10-10-03, 02:53 AM
(Looks around.)

Oh my, so many dragons around here.
Obsidianjaerc

10-11-03, 02:38 PM
:headexplo Wrong forum. But anyway

Orc: Occisio
Elf :Candidus
Dwarf : Durus
1/2 orc : Semoccisio
Man: Aetas
Halfling : Alacris
Gnome : Adfingo
ClashoftheDragons

10-14-03, 08:32 PM
I'm using them for the story I'm currently writing. Could someone help me come up with something for Dragon? Oh, and a Sea Serpent thing.:D
Obsidianjaerc

10-14-03, 09:22 PM
Tensanguis - Dragon

Adlucolubra - Female Water Serpent

Natrix - Water Serpent

Adluo Tensanguis - Water Dragon
Bhulkan

12-05-03, 04:45 AM
Elves: Tree huggers.
Dwarves: Grumps
Kender: Borrower
Dragon: Big chicken
WillfArOaH1344

12-26-03, 02:39 AM
Elf: Will Faroah
Wise monk who fights evil dudes
Drindin

12-26-03, 04:34 AM
More names:

Orcs: Pig-Folk

Kobold: Dog-men

Gnoll: Jackal Men

Elf: Woodsfolk

Dwarf: Mountainsfolk

Kender/Halfling: Littlefolk or Plainsfolk

Gnomes: Hill Folk
William Coburn

12-28-03, 01:40 AM
Here's some ideas that I've used.

Tallfellows-Humans
Smallfellows-Halflings
Story was from the point of view of a kinderish halfling living in a land of hobbit like halflings. Decided that she should use the more "cutesy-wutesy" vinacular of the halflings.

Quenans--Elves
Name shamelessly stolen from Tolken

Fateless Ones--Elven name for humans
Humans in this story were not bound to fate and had true free will (how many times has that been used before).

Eldar--Wharhammer name for elves

Orcks--Warhammer for orc (ok they just missspelled it, but meh)

Stonemen--M:tg for dwarves during the appcolypse story. But they seemed much more magical, having the ablity to turn to stone or magma at will.
nigirimeshi

12-31-03, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by William Coburn
Eldar--Wharhammer name for elves


NO! It's the Tolkein name for elves.

Here're some

Elf: Elna
Dwarf: Khazarn
Hobbits: Shíren

Just playoffs of Tolkien names, but still, they work.
naiibu

01-23-04, 11:41 PM
Here are some Latin translations you might use... if you go that way. Anyway I got them from an online translator so they might not be entirely accurate.


Turpis: Nasty, Ugly

Formosis: Beautiful

Firmus: Fast


Anyway, it comes up with some suitably exotic sounding names. Maybe you want something a little more familiar, though. Anyway, thought it might help.
leopardmessiah

01-25-04, 01:50 PM
Depending on each races role in the world that would open up names eg:
Golden ones: elves
Sons/children of X (where X is a deity, mythical figure, etc) can be good as well.
Or if the races were created (like half-giants) they should have names such as Builder, Warrior, etc
Sedriis

02-14-04, 06:30 PM
use it
Asta Kask

02-20-04, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by nigirimeshi
NO! It's the Tolkein name for elves.

Actually, it's both.

There are plenty of name generators on the net. Go to Google and enter "ConLang name generator" and you'll find some. It would be wise to make certain that every race has a distinct "flavor" to its language.
23skidoo

02-20-04, 11:35 AM
One of the pitfalls a Fantasy or Science Fiction writer can fall into is neologism. Or, as taken from the Turkey City Lexicon, calling a rabbit a smeerp:

"Call a Rabbit a Smeerp"

A cheap technique for false exoticism, in which common elements of the real world are re-named for a fantastic milieu without any real alteration in their basic nature or behavior. "Smeerps" are especially common in fantasy worlds, where people often ride exotic steeds that look and act just like horses. (Attributed to James Blish.)

What you're doing isn't exactly the same thing, but I have to say if your races LOOK and ACT just like typical fantasy elves, dwarves, etc., but you're just giving them different names for your story, I don't think you're accomplishing anything. In fact, you hurt yourself because you deprive the reader of a use stock fantasy tag that gives her tons of information about the race/creature, but in the end don't provide anything but a new name.

23skidoo
Sliver_Over_Mind

02-25-04, 07:25 PM
Eldar in the Tolkien universe were the ancient, for lack of a better word, Gods of the elves, who crafted them, and the dwarves, and the... just about everything.

in Warhammer, Eldar are similar to Elves, but since that would be a blatent rip-off of Tolkien (as far as i know, the orginally inventor of elves) they were made a little different. like they were bald.
Mak

02-25-04, 11:44 PM
Actually, the Eldar were the elves. The "gods" of the world were called Valar/Maiar or just Ainur.
Salacious Angel

02-27-04, 03:46 AM
I suggest giving the races names that the other races know them by. For example, while the people of the Meliddian Wastes call themselves the T'irkanni, the highfolk of Svira know them as the Noachim (meaning Ice Folk in their native tongue). In my opinion, this helps make each race distinct, rather than having every creature in the world call an orc "Orc". Another thing that irritates me is that all the humans in a given world usually (but not always) speak common, while every elf speaks elven... etc. There needs to be a greater use of dialects, rather than anyone being able to go virtually anywhere in the universe/multiverse and understand any random halfling you just so happen to step on.

PS: I was under the impression that the Eldar were a race in Warhammer 40'000, not in traditional Warhammer fantasy. I'm not sure about Tolkien, but I think Eldar was actually an elven city near or in a forest.
leopardmessiah

02-27-04, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Sliver_Over_Mind
blatent rip-off of Tolkien (as far as i know, the orginally inventor of elves)

In their current (rather annoying, considering people keep associating them with the fey) incarnation certainly, but he based them on other stuff, etc. Certainly "elfin" is an old descriptive term, so I very much doubt it. IIRC the leves were simply another term or maybe a subset of the faerie, like sylphs or sprites or what-have you, but I might be wrong. Their rather odd appearance as human-ish creatures is I think down to him, but I'm not sure.
ClashoftheDragons

04-06-04, 01:42 AM
I forgot about this thread, this will be my last post on this thread. :D
SuperSquirrel

04-20-04, 06:34 AM
if the goal is to have a merged dnd-magic world, then you might wanna think about using normal d20 names. of course you can have your own races added into it, but to call an elf something different is to make sure theyre not used, since people can pull an elf out of the phb.
Araciss

05-23-04, 11:51 AM
Elf: Lej(i)
Dwarf: Firhkaz(both singular and plural)
Gnome: Rinar(e)
Hafling; Kinlare(r)
Human; Ghein(cy)
Orc; Vulca(z)
Half-; ist (placed AFTER the parents race. Half-elf = Lejist)

Araciss
TheBardicTraveller

06-06-04, 06:47 PM
High Elves: Light Alvi [Norse Myth]
Dark Elves: Szvarthalvi [Norse Myth]
Dwarves: Grugnii [common dwarf name from Warhammer]
Araciss

06-07-04, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by TheBardicTraveller
High Elves: Light Alvi [Norse Myth]
Dark Elves: Szvarthalvi [Norse Myth]
Dwarves: Grugnii [common dwarf name from Warhammer]

As a Norwegian, I feel that I have to correct you.

High Elves: Ljos alf(r) (Norrøn Mythology)
Dark Elves: Svart/Sort/Mirk alf(r) (Norrøn Mythology)
Smith

11-11-04, 06:24 PM
Remember that magic cards use the word "elf" all the dang time. And "wizard" or some synonym.

Probably since alot of Magic cards have more interesting names than D&D (like as an example, Llanowyr Elves instead of Wood Elves (spelling might be wrong on the card(and it might not even be a real card(but i dont care atm))))

But I suggest you use Magic card creatures to create sub-races. Like a Wood Elf isnt really any different from a High Elf (though powergaming munchkin strength-bonus whiners might demand otherwise). But you could have the Llanowyr Elves, the Staunton Elves, and Kavaria Elves, and the Mearin Elves. Theyre all high elves but those are the names they give the regions they live in.

Alot of the work in creating a campaign world is not in saying that there are humans and they live here and here and here. It's in creating Normans and Saxons and Celts.