I know it's been out for awhile now. However I finally bought all the core books. I'm just looking for everyones opinions on it. Quite frankly I am EXTREMELY disappointed in it's design. The way magic has changed and the flow of the game has changed has me wondering if I should just ebay all the books I bought or just try and return them. Any way, just wanted some thoughts.If not, give it a fair test, then make up your mind.
*to OP*
Do a search for you topic title, you'll have months and months of feedback to look through.
That is all that I needed to say.
But, to be honest, give it a little while and before you all first play find someone to print out your characters with the character builder. It is handy. Another thing you might want to try is joining in one of the 'Friday Night Dungeon Delves' at you local gamestore. It will give you a few opportunities to learn how to play and hopefully do it with those who have already learned the system and can give you a hand.
You've already spent the $, so give it a try. The worst that'll hapen is you don't like it. In that case there's always someone else looking to get into the game that you can sell it off to.
While the magic system is extremely different that it has been in past editions, it can still add excitement to any game. If you want to see mages do things outside of combat and without rituals, talk to your DM (or consider it, if your are the DM) about letting suitably cool things happen with a high enough Arcana test (like a DC 50 attempt to dam a river with a golden ribbon of energy).
Please don't give up on 4th edition before you play it. If, after that, you don't like it, by all means go to Paizo or pick up a free rpg like The Sword of Martin or go back to whatever else your group enjoys.
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this makes for a sad DM.Thanks for the advice, was really all I was looking for. I think I was just initially disheartened by the overhaul of the magic system. And! mystra is dead
There is nothing stopping you, as DM, from running a campaign around trying to rez the GoM.
Or having one of the PC's become the new one...
Please Please enjoy.
To the OP: Since you've newly joined, you may not be aware of the long and involved history we've had here on the forums concerning people's opinions of the new edition, especially when comparing it to the old edition.
Nothing's wrong with expressing a viewpoint, criticizing a work via your own opinions, or the like. Except there are some people who enjoy causing a ruckus, fan the flames, and watch threads get disruptive and burn to the ground, ruining everyone's enjoyment. When that happens, moderators tend to lock threads so that no one can continue posting in them.
It happens so much, so often, so violently, and so tiresome that bringing up the subject usually shuts down discussion as people wait for the inevitable threadlock.
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It isnt the same game as 3.5 was, but its fun. you will like it, I know im enthralled by the ease you can make cinimatic storylines as a dm. You as a dm will find this the most enjoyable system yet.
Please Please enjoy.
Just 'cause you like something doesn't mean everyone else will enjoy it...
But really, give it a fair try before coming to a decision...
(In before lock!)
But, after you have given it an honest try, if you still don't like it, e-bay your books. Not every edition is for every player. This one might just not be for you.
But, after you have given it an honest try, if you still don't like it, e-bay your books. Not every edition is for every player. This one might just not be for you.
This is really good advice. Give it a shot, you may like it. I was very skeptical of 4e before it was released but really enjoy it now. That said there are other editions of D&D that I'm not overly fond of. Different people like different things, that's just life. The main point is, you won't know till ya give it a shot, at least.
Thanks for the advice, was really all I was looking for. I think I was just initially disheartened by the overhaul of the magic system. And! mystra is dead
It took me a full six months after I bought my books to really get into the new game. At first, I was disappointed. Then, I convinced myself I must hate 4e; never thought it would be a game I could enjoy.
It's by no means perfect (the rulebooks are boring to read, for instance ;)) but man is 4e fun to actually play. I can seriously say this is the most fun I've had in years, and I've been a DnDer for a quarter of a century (more).
4e very different from any other D&D game I've ever played. No Vancian casting for one. That was a real bummer at first. Less, now that I've been able to appreciate the new system for what it is. Early on, I worried about the rules a lot-- too much (such as tactical movement in combat). It wasn't until about six months later that it hit me: Don't worry (so much) about the rules in 4e. Hard to explain but 4e just looks like its a rules heavy game; it really isn't.
My PC feels like a 'I'm the best at what I do' ;) kind of guy (even at first level)-- in other games, we typically start at 3rd level for a more heroic feel. I still play earlier editions when I can; each has its own charm, after all. 4e has managed to win me over though ;).
I am sure the French Judges are going to ding him a few points for that.