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ENWorld is reporting that Solice got laid-off

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#1
doctorhook
Dec 02, 2008 20:45:30 http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/246174-layoffs.html#post4572940

Not to mention a bunch of other great people, including Mr. Dave Noonan.

...Is it true?
#2
Shemeska_the_Marauder
Dec 02, 2008 21:02:42 If Solice was let go, it was a serious mistake. She did a damn good job cleaning up the utter mess than Mike / Gamer Zer0 had made of the forums during his time here. She was polite, responsive, and generally made the community here (as divided as it has been since the 4e launch) feel less fractured. If she was let go, it feels like she's getting axed for other people's faults *cough*Gleemax and DDI*cough*.
#3
trappedslider
Dec 02, 2008 21:14:07 I don't think she was laid off...otherwise I would believe that the VCLS would be informed at least in some timely manner...

EDIT::embarrass @ leaving out key word...
#4
doctorhook
Dec 02, 2008 21:17:15
I don't think she was laid...otherwise I would believe that the VCLS would be informed at least in some timely manner...

(...I'm just gonna toss out there, slider, that you're missing a word in there that may change the meaning of your sentence, and you may want to edit it. I'm just saying.)
#5
trappedslider
Dec 02, 2008 21:18:36
(...I'm just gonna toss out there, slider, that you're missing a word in there that may change the meaning of your sentence, and you may want to edit it. I'm just saying.)

thanks for catching that :embarrass
#6
doctorhook
Dec 02, 2008 21:19:54
thanks for catching that :embarrass

(I found myself suddenly wondering just how close you guys and gals all are with one another... :P )
#7
rmn498
Dec 02, 2008 21:28:01 It seems that the only source that's talking about this is Lisa Stevens from Paizo. I did some searching, and while I found a bunch of stuff quoting her statement, I can't find any other source to confirm that her statement is accurate. On the other hand, it's possible that WotC just wasn't planning on telling their loyal DnD fans about the changes. I guess that would explain the lack of statement from WotC. And really, would anyone be surprised if WotC made changes and tried to pretend they never happened **cough** again **cough**?
#8
darjr
Dec 02, 2008 23:20:47 Confirmation from a former WotC employee has been posted in that EnWorld Forum.
#9
crimson_lancer
Dec 02, 2008 23:35:43
Confirmation from a former WotC employee has been posted in that EnWorld Forum.

Dave Noonan HIMSELF, actually. Further discussed in this Thread.
#10
Ore
Dec 03, 2008 7:12:25 A lot of people are worried... I know WOTC has a right to keep their business to themselves but I am hoping they at least make a statement regarding those who have been laid off and why WOTC is letting such talent get away from them.

EDIT: Then again, the two people who finally bridged the gaps and restored communication to the fans are on that list. So we may be looking at another chasm between ourselves and WOTC.
#11
lord_karsus
Dec 03, 2008 10:13:12 -So...Who's in charge here, now?
#12
markustay_dup
Dec 03, 2008 10:47:18 Cthulhu?
#13
rinonalyrna_fathomlin
Dec 03, 2008 10:49:36
. She was polite, responsive, and generally made the community here (as divided as it has been since the 4e launch) feel less fractured.

I agree.

It's sad when people get laid off, especially around the holidays.*

*And no, this is not a "WotC is SO EVUL OMG!!!111" type post, I'm just saying what I think, and what a lot of other people think.
#14
wrecan
Dec 03, 2008 11:34:44 I liked Solice. She was always polite friendly and responsive. I wish her the best of luck.
#15
Artifact
Dec 03, 2008 11:54:01 I hate the bad news and wish best of luck to those affected.

I laughed so hard I (about) peed my paints after reading post #3 :D.
#16
18DELTA
Dec 03, 2008 12:48:46
-So...Who's in charge here, now?

-You are. :P

-On a serious note that does suck, bigtime.

18DELTA (Chosen of Cyric) ;)
#17
trappedslider
Dec 03, 2008 13:07:42
I hate the bad news and wish best of luck to those affected.

I laughed so hard I (about) peed my paints after reading post #3 :D.

i hoped you changed your pants
#18
Artifact
Dec 03, 2008 13:16:07
i hoped you changed your pants

I (about) had to change my pants ;).

***

I feel for those who are still employed by WotC; now they have to start worrying about whether or not their jobs are secure. There's never a good time to get laid-off but it's really crummy when it happens during the holidays .
#19
batshido
Dec 03, 2008 13:36:19
-So...Who's in charge here, now?

I think that means we're back to mob rule.

Too bad we can't lay them off and keep Solice and Noonan.
#20
lord_karsus
Dec 03, 2008 14:57:59
-You are. :P

I think that means we're back to mob rule.

-In that case, I am in charge now. Dibs.
#21
wrecan
Dec 03, 2008 15:03:06 Shotgun!
#22
batshido
Dec 03, 2008 15:03:20
-In that case, I am in charge now. Dibs.

I'll meet you in the cage. We're settling this Thunderdome style.
#23
lord_karsus
Dec 03, 2008 15:10:16 -That's not in your best interest. Just saying.

-But, in all seriousness, I know GZ and Solice worked in tandem, each one taking care of different sides. When GZ left, Solice was there to cover both sides. Now there's a big vacuum. Before the coming of GZ and Solice, the WizOs handled a lot of that administrative stuff. Now, WizOs don't work like that anymore. Now what? Council of VCLs?
#24
WolfStar76
Dec 03, 2008 15:32:13 As I'm sure will be noted quickly in her "goodbye" thread - WotC_Mike (aka Mike Gills) will be filling her shoes to the best of his ability.
#25
lord_karsus
Dec 03, 2008 15:38:45 -Indeed:

As I am sure you have heard there have been some changes here at Wizards. Parts of those changes involve me pursuing other opportunities.

I wanted to take a moment to say thank you. Thank you to everyone here who harbors the kind of passion for games that makes this community so great. It has been a pleasure, and an honor, to work for you all.

While Wizards is in the process of developing new CM procedures, I am grateful that I am able to leave this community in the capable hands of WotC_Mike. He’s a great guy, and a truly committed community man! Please be kind, supportive and helpful to him, he deserves it!

I now take my leave with nothing but admiration and gratitude in my heart, for this community and for the opportunity Wizards of the Coast provided me. (Yes I know it sounds like canned speech, but I really do mean it!)

Happy gaming one and all!

Sincerely,
Jennifer "Solice" Paige

#26
erevis_cale_dup
Dec 03, 2008 15:58:25
I'll meet you in the cage. We're settling this Thunderdome style.

Dark and Empty, Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P
#27
trappedslider
Dec 03, 2008 15:59:38
Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P

*sets up betting pool*
#28
seTiny
Dec 03, 2008 16:10:56
Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P

Hey that's my line...

Buy my tickets! Erevis's are fake and made from people....

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 doctorhook Dec 02, 2008 20:45:30	http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/246174-layoffs.html#post4572940 Not to mention a bunch of other great people, including Mr. Dave Noonan. ...Is it true?
#2 Shemeska_the_Marauder Dec 02, 2008 21:02:42	If Solice was let go, it was a serious mistake. She did a damn good job cleaning up the utter mess than Mike / Gamer Zer0 had made of the forums during his time here. She was polite, responsive, and generally made the community here (as divided as it has been since the 4e launch) feel less fractured. If she was let go, it feels like she's getting axed for other people's faults coughGleemax and DDIcough.
#3 trappedslider Dec 02, 2008 21:14:07	I don't think she was laid off...otherwise I would believe that the VCLS would be informed at least in some timely manner... EDIT::embarrass @ leaving out key word...
#4 doctorhook Dec 02, 2008 21:17:15	I don't think she was laid...otherwise I would believe that the VCLS would be informed at least in some timely manner... (...I'm just gonna toss out there, slider, that you're missing a word in there that may change the meaning of your sentence, and you may want to edit it. I'm just saying.)
#5 trappedslider Dec 02, 2008 21:18:36	(...I'm just gonna toss out there, slider, that you're missing a word in there that may change the meaning of your sentence, and you may want to edit it. I'm just saying.) thanks for catching that :embarrass
#6 doctorhook Dec 02, 2008 21:19:54	thanks for catching that :embarrass (I found myself suddenly wondering just how close you guys and gals all are with one another... :P )
#7 rmn498 Dec 02, 2008 21:28:01	It seems that the only source that's talking about this is Lisa Stevens from Paizo. I did some searching, and while I found a bunch of stuff quoting her statement, I can't find any other source to confirm that her statement is accurate. On the other hand, it's possible that WotC just wasn't planning on telling their loyal DnD fans about the changes. I guess that would explain the lack of statement from WotC. And really, would anyone be surprised if WotC made changes and tried to pretend they never happened cough again cough?
#8 darjr Dec 02, 2008 23:20:47	Confirmation from a former WotC employee has been posted in that EnWorld Forum.
#9 crimson_lancer Dec 02, 2008 23:35:43	Confirmation from a former WotC employee has been posted in that EnWorld Forum. Dave Noonan HIMSELF, actually. Further discussed in this Thread.
#10 Ore Dec 03, 2008 7:12:25	A lot of people are worried... I know WOTC has a right to keep their business to themselves but I am hoping they at least make a statement regarding those who have been laid off and why WOTC is letting such talent get away from them. EDIT: Then again, the two people who finally bridged the gaps and restored communication to the fans are on that list. So we may be looking at another chasm between ourselves and WOTC.
#11 lord_karsus Dec 03, 2008 10:13:12	-So...Who's in charge here, now?
#12 markustay_dup Dec 03, 2008 10:47:18	Cthulhu?
#13 rinonalyrna_fathomlin Dec 03, 2008 10:49:36	. She was polite, responsive, and generally made the community here (as divided as it has been since the 4e launch) feel less fractured. I agree. It's sad when people get laid off, especially around the holidays.* *And no, this is not a "WotC is SO EVUL OMG!!!111" type post, I'm just saying what I think, and what a lot of other people think.
#14 wrecan Dec 03, 2008 11:34:44	I liked Solice. She was always polite friendly and responsive. I wish her the best of luck.
#15 Artifact Dec 03, 2008 11:54:01	I hate the bad news and wish best of luck to those affected. I laughed so hard I (about) peed my paints after reading post #3 :D.
#16 18DELTA Dec 03, 2008 12:48:46	-So...Who's in charge here, now? -You are. :P -On a serious note that does suck, bigtime. 18DELTA (Chosen of Cyric) ;)
#17 trappedslider Dec 03, 2008 13:07:42	I hate the bad news and wish best of luck to those affected. I laughed so hard I (about) peed my paints after reading post #3 :D. i hoped you changed your pants
#18 Artifact Dec 03, 2008 13:16:07	i hoped you changed your pants I (about) had to change my pants ;). *** I feel for those who are still employed by WotC; now they have to start worrying about whether or not their jobs are secure. There's never a good time to get laid-off but it's really crummy when it happens during the holidays .
#19 batshido Dec 03, 2008 13:36:19	-So...Who's in charge here, now? I think that means we're back to mob rule. Too bad we can't lay them off and keep Solice and Noonan.
#20 lord_karsus Dec 03, 2008 14:57:59	-You are. :P I think that means we're back to mob rule. -In that case, I am in charge now. Dibs.
#21 wrecan Dec 03, 2008 15:03:06	Shotgun!
#22 batshido Dec 03, 2008 15:03:20	-In that case, I am in charge now. Dibs. I'll meet you in the cage. We're settling this Thunderdome style.
#23 lord_karsus Dec 03, 2008 15:10:16	-That's not in your best interest. Just saying. -But, in all seriousness, I know GZ and Solice worked in tandem, each one taking care of different sides. When GZ left, Solice was there to cover both sides. Now there's a big vacuum. Before the coming of GZ and Solice, the WizOs handled a lot of that administrative stuff. Now, WizOs don't work like that anymore. Now what? Council of VCLs?
#24 WolfStar76 Dec 03, 2008 15:32:13	As I'm sure will be noted quickly in her "goodbye" thread - WotC_Mike (aka Mike Gills) will be filling her shoes to the best of his ability.
#25 lord_karsus Dec 03, 2008 15:38:45	-Indeed: As I am sure you have heard there have been some changes here at Wizards. Parts of those changes involve me pursuing other opportunities. I wanted to take a moment to say thank you. Thank you to everyone here who harbors the kind of passion for games that makes this community so great. It has been a pleasure, and an honor, to work for you all. While Wizards is in the process of developing new CM procedures, I am grateful that I am able to leave this community in the capable hands of WotC_Mike. He’s a great guy, and a truly committed community man! Please be kind, supportive and helpful to him, he deserves it! I now take my leave with nothing but admiration and gratitude in my heart, for this community and for the opportunity Wizards of the Coast provided me. (Yes I know it sounds like canned speech, but I really do mean it!) Happy gaming one and all! Sincerely, Jennifer "Solice" Paige
#26 erevis_cale_dup Dec 03, 2008 15:58:25	I'll meet you in the cage. We're settling this Thunderdome style. Dark and Empty, Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P
#27 trappedslider Dec 03, 2008 15:59:38	Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P sets up betting pool
#28 seTiny Dec 03, 2008 16:10:56	Starts selling tickets to the Bat vs LK Title Fight. :P Hey that's my line... Buy my tickets! Erevis's are fake and made from people....