Please, please, please combine "Quick Reply" and "Advanced" editing buttons

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#1

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 11:33:48
Please, please, please get rid of "Quick Reply" - its such a nuissance
#2

ieattrollsforbreakfast

May 26, 2008 11:36:42
How is it an nuissance?

It doesn't obstruct anything and nothing forces you to use it. All the normal functionality is still there, so what possible reason is there to remove it?
#3

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 12:34:04
The Quick Reply is redundant, superfluous, and clunky. It is a nonstreamlined design and can be confusing for new users. Having an unusable feature at the bottom of every thread is stupid. If you have to press the button in the post above, it might as well go to the same format for starting any new post. The Quick Design is ugly.

The Quick Reply forces a user to use its format when editing a post, and is a nuissance to bypass - so as to get advanced editing features - and to avoid getting the sig automatically added to the post.

There isnt any reason to have Quick Reply. Just get rid of it.


Edit: if forum managers are concerned about advanced editing features overwhelming newbies, just put the advanced features in a separate sidebox underneath the emoticons.
#4

ieattrollsforbreakfast

May 26, 2008 12:54:45
There's plenty of reason to have a quick reply: it's fast, its easy, you don't need to open a whole new page just to type a few lines...it' saves time and bandwidth, pure and simple.

The same goes for the quick edit. If you want to go advanced there's a button for it in plain view. Hardly a 'nuissance'.
There's also a box for showing you sig or not in the post, just below the quick reply box in plain view.

And it's hardly unusable. It's pretty much all I use nowadays, I only ever use the advanced mode for complex formatting.

If it's design offends you so much, just click the arrow in the top right of the Quick Reply box and it'll collapse.

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That said, I do agree that having to click a button for quick reply is a little strange, though I think it may be neccessary for the auto quote feature.
#5

ariasilverhands

May 26, 2008 12:59:52
Of all the things for people to whine about... The only issue I have with Quick Reply is beintg forced to click a button to activate it.
#6

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 13:00:31
Its a nuissance.
#7

_jayne_cobb_

May 26, 2008 13:01:30
How?
#8

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 13:03:37
Consolidate Quick Reply and standard Reply. Make them the same thing.

Put features that arent "quick and easy" in a separate side box. Voila! Theres no reason "Advanced features" need to be on a separate page. Get the best of both worlds.

Aria: The only issue I have with Quick Reply is beintg forced to click a button to activate it.

Exactly.

Consolidate all replies into one format.
#9

rhialto

May 26, 2008 13:06:36
Quick reply is probably the only decent thing about these forums these days.
#10

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 13:08:20
As said, the redundancy can consolidate by moving the "Advanced Features" into the "Quick Reply" format. Then rename it "New Reply". It will have all features, with more advanced features to the side.
#11

wrecan

May 26, 2008 15:27:44
I like Quick Reply. In fact, I'm soaking in it right now.
#12

mudbunny

May 26, 2008 16:15:14
Quick Reply is full of gooey goodness. Just like a freshly-made pan of Rice Krispie squares.
#13

yushang

May 26, 2008 16:17:19
This was done in quick reply. I like it.
#14

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 16:27:27
As said, the Advanced Editing buttons can relocate to Quick Reply.

Then the delete the redundantly separate "Advanced" edit buttons page. Thus consolidate.

Respondants will reply directly, using the form at the bottom of the thread, without being forced to press a button in an above post.



Also, please include the "Spoiler Block" [ sblock ][ /sblock ] along with the advanced editing features.
#15

insatium

May 26, 2008 18:14:21
Haldrik, the problem with your suggestion is that it would require at the least rolling back to a prior version of vBulletin and probably writing some kind of extension to the software. Neither is something WOTC really wants to do, as the former is buggy (and would probably break other features), and the latter not only makes getting support harder, requires paying programmers that WOTC needs for DDI right now.

The only issue I have with Quick Reply (as others have mentioned above) is that you have to click to use it. I would like to see a listing someplace of all the "nonstandard" vbCode extensions (sblock counts, even though it's pretty standard, since it's not shown in the tools).
#16

Webster

May 26, 2008 19:20:27
One click to activate something isn't that difficult.

This message brought to you today by the quick reply button, which works even better as I don't have to wait for a page to load to respond.
#17

vaalingrade_ashland_02

May 26, 2008 19:37:37
I'm on dial-up and on forums that don't have QR enabled, I have to wait an unnecessarily long time for the page to reload.
#18

Artifact

May 26, 2008 19:52:24
I've never used quick reply myself. This is prolly the best place to try it (out of curiosity).

Edit: Hey, that's pretty cool.
#19

lord_tirian

May 26, 2008 20:04:17
I like Quick Reply. Please, please, please never get rid of "Quick Reply" - it's such a nice thing.

Cheers, LT.
#20

bonethug0108

May 26, 2008 21:13:04
So we have one opposer to quick reply vs. the many for it. I think I see where this is going....*


*This post was typed in quick reply.
#21

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 21:57:52
Read the posts before you comment.

I can see enough people like Quick Reply, and I dont want to lessen other peoples enjoyment. Personally, Trolls comment about bandwidth efficiency and Insatiums comment about the problematics of programming, convince me to keep Quick Reply.

Nevertheless, I still hate the redundancy, and I still hate faffing thru the Quick Reply format to get to the "Advanced" buttons while editing a post. And for the same reasons others gave above, the Quick Reply should become the default method for posting a New Reply.

So, you can keep "Quick Reply", but it should include "Advanced" editing buttons in a sidebox. And since it should be the default, it doesnt need to be called "Quick Reply", it can just be called "New Reply".

Since the New/Quick Reply would include advanced editing buttons too, theres no need to use the separate advanced edit page at all. Then everything is good for bandwidth.

In other words, posters should be able to place a comment at the bottom of the thread without having to click to activate it. Several posters have voiced support for this.
#22

Haldrik

May 26, 2008 22:28:10
Id use the Quick Reply more often if it had advanced edit buttons.
#23

guyrtheadamantineone

May 26, 2008 23:34:46
Wow, I just realised Quick Reply is awesome! Thank you Haldrik!
#24

Haldrik

May 27, 2008 0:29:35
;) Your welcome.

The fact so many people havent used Quick Reply, is a symptom of the problem of redundancy.
#25

Haldrik

May 27, 2008 0:50:59
Most people using the Quick Reply end up with their sig included. In the "Show your signature" check box, the default should probably be no check. People who intentionally want to refer to their sig can check the box.
#26

guyrtheadamantineone

May 27, 2008 1:38:58
;) Your welcome.

The fact so many people havent used Quick Reply, is a symptom of the problem of redundancy.

Well, no. It's simply that people only explore so much of the available functions on a forum, and sometime it takes one user to enlighten another.

I got a slow computor, so it helps greatly saving time.
#27

propane

May 27, 2008 2:26:40
Of all the things for people to whine about... The only issue I have with Quick Reply is being forced to click a button to activate it.

THIS! That aspect makes no sense. I love quick reply on other forums, but I don't think I've ever used it here. The quick reply isn't redundant, the clicking on something before-hand is.

edit: I have no idea what I have to click to enable it.
#28

mudbunny

May 27, 2008 8:46:33
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#29

vaalingrade_ashland_02

May 27, 2008 10:30:05
I should point out though that if you drop striaght down to QR with your mouse wheel or center click, that button is not on the screen at most resolutions.
#30

bonethug0108

May 28, 2008 17:48:38
Hitting quick reply on any post brings me straight to the box to start typing, and I don't even have to go to a new page!

It's not a redundant feature. It is exactly what it says it is: a very quick way to reply to a thread. A normal reply or a quoted reply have to go through another page.
#31

calronmoonflower

May 31, 2008 17:11:24
Ah, so that's how this feature works.

This feature does have a point, and if someone doesn't like it they could just reply the other way.
#32

propane

May 31, 2008 18:19:53
I'd like to also add that the quick reply box has most of the things you'd need;
Plain typing, simple formatting, url creation, image dispalay and to make things quotes. Quick to use with minimal excess page loading.

If you need to do advanced stuff (and you yourself aren't advanced enough to type in the codes yourself) with tabs and huge complex lists within lists and high formatting and all that jazz you'd want to do for class creation and things like that... Quick Reply is not for you, skip it and go to the full deal.

The only change I'd make to Quick Reply is to get rid of the need to click that little button. Message posted to you from Quick Reply.
#33

joni-san

May 31, 2008 19:52:11
I love the Quick Reply.

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-Joni