Thoughts on the forum changes

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#1

makeshiftwings

May 19, 2008 18:11:59
The forum change announcement directed us to this forum, so here are my thoughts:

- Can you make it so that all the D&D forums use the same D&D background and theme? Right now, some of the forums use the Gleemax blue and green theme. I'm guessing this might just be temporary and will be fixed eventually; I just wanted to make sure.

- Having one enormous subforum called "Character Building" seems like a bad idea. It now contains 80,000+ posts, while the rest of the forums hardly have any. I think it should be split back up into the same subforums we had originally, or something similar. Maybe separate into Races, Classes & Powers, Skills & Feats?

- Now that Gleemax should be done with its alpha, can we start whining about old complaints again? ;) Can we have a "stay logged in forever" checkbox instead of "stay logged in for two weeks" checkbox?
#2

celloshane

May 19, 2008 18:21:11
The forum change announcement directed us to this forum, so here are my thoughts:

- Can you make it so that all the D&D forums use the same D&D background and theme? Right now, some of the forums use the Gleemax blue and green theme. I'm guessing this might just be temporary and will be fixed eventually; I just wanted to make sure.

This can be adjusted in your profile settings.

- Having one enormous subforum called "Character Building" seems like a bad idea. It now contains 80,000+ posts, while the rest of the forums hardly have any. I think it should be split back up into the same subforums we had originally, or something similar. Maybe separate into Races, Classes & Powers, Skills & Feats?

This has been discussed already. More forums will be created as Gamer_Zero sees need. Until then, CM was interested in starting with as few boards as possible. I'm lazy or I'd link the thread for you.

- Now that Gleemax should be done with its alpha, can we start whining about old complaints again? ;) Can we have a "stay logged in forever" checkbox instead of "stay logged in for two weeks" checkbox?

There's a thread in this forum that explains how to fix this problem. I'm still lazy...
#3

makeshiftwings

May 19, 2008 19:17:10
It's a shame that you're lazy, because I can't find those posts anywhere... if anyone has a link to how to stay logged in, it would be much appreciated.
#4

insatium

May 19, 2008 21:09:58
Do you use Firefox 2.x? If you do, go find an extension called Cookie Editor. Install it, then open it up and look for the only gleemax.com cookie set to expire within two years. Edit it so that it expires in, say, 2020. Problem solved. There's something similar for Opera, but I'm not sure what, as I don't use that browser. If you use IE...why?
#5

makeshiftwings

May 19, 2008 22:29:35
Do you use Firefox 2.x? If you do, go find an extension called Cookie Editor. Install it, then open it up and look for the only gleemax.com cookie set to expire within two years. Edit it so that it expires in, say, 2020. Problem solved. There's something similar for Opera, but I'm not sure what, as I don't use that browser. If you use IE...why?

Ah, I see, you have to edit the cookie manually. What I meant was that the forum itself should let you stay logged in. You shouldn't have to download a plugin and manually edit your cookie just to get the functionality that comes prepackaged in nearly every other other forum on the internet.
#6

pogminky

May 20, 2008 1:55:28
Does the re-organised forum have a quick link/forum to find players in local area?
#7

sophismata

May 20, 2008 3:36:04
Ah, I see, you have to edit the cookie manually. What I meant was that the forum itself should let you stay logged in. You shouldn't have to download a plugin and manually edit your cookie just to get the functionality that comes prepackaged in nearly every other other forum on the internet.

I disagree. The problem with letting people stay logged in full-time is that many, many people are incompetant when it comes to PC security. Better to at head off potential problems before they start, in my opinion.

Of course, in both Camino and Firefox, I've had no trouble with the cookie ever expiring, which could be a bug.
#8

Artifact

May 20, 2008 5:55:07
I really dislike the default Gleemax colors. Its hard to explain, but its uncomfortable to read on this backround.

The blue+grey/white is a big improvement from the original Gleemax default of green+black, but that's not saying much-- most anything would be ;).

Since the forum reorganization seems to be a work in progress at the moment, I guess I'll just change the forum display defaults in my account options. It will be nice to get the defaults set however; fiddling with account options is sorta like having to do "paperwork", when all ya wanna do is read the paper ;).
#9

legdiwena

May 20, 2008 10:41:15
Why did they totally screw up a forum that was working fine? All they had to do was add some forums to 4e area without messing with any others.
#10

Zherog

May 20, 2008 10:49:45
Why did they totally screw up a forum that was working fine?

Because that's what they do.
#11

sophismata

May 20, 2008 11:29:56
Changing forums around isn't always that simple, especially on sites with large traffic.
#12

legdiwena

May 20, 2008 11:35:28
Where's the blasted What's Player to Do and DM Rules Counseling?
#13

Zherog

May 20, 2008 11:38:39
DM Rules Counseling is now [forum=868]Rules Q&A[/forum].

What's a Player to Do is now [forum=48]Player Advice[/forum].

Both can be found on the 4e forums. I've asked CM add a link to WaPtD, but they have a bad habit of ignoring me, so I doubt it'll get done.
#14

legdiwena

May 20, 2008 11:41:57
So we need to specify it's a 3.5 question when we post there now?
#15

Zherog

May 20, 2008 11:44:24
No idea. That's a question I've asked numerous times, and Community Management refuses to give me an answer. Until I'm told otherwise, I'm treating the forum any different than before. If you're a player who needs help or advice - whether it's with a tyrant DM, a maniacal co-player, understanding a rule, whatever - that's the place to ask, regardless of the edition.
#16

kouk

May 20, 2008 12:40:59
I would really prefer if they kept "old editions" completely separate from 4th edition the way it has just been for the last several months.

With these forum mergers, which I concede may not be complete, we end up with posts that are inappropriate for the given rules versions and is just generally confusing.

Also, the "What's a DM to do?" seems to now be called "Dungeon Master Guidance." Personally, I don't like that name at all, despite any pun value it has. It just seems mildly insulting to me for some reason, like there is a correct answer you just need to see a tutor for.
#17

wrecan

May 20, 2008 14:48:30
You can't please everyone. I'm the forum lead for Dungeon Master Guidance (formerly What's A DM To Do?) and I proposed that name. You can see my thoughts on why I proposed a name change [post=15905705]here[/post]
#18

wizardmon

May 20, 2008 17:03:34
I support the OP 100% and share the same concerns and views.
#19

pogminky

May 21, 2008 3:29:13
Aaaarggghhh.....

I was all for some reorganisation, and I think (ducks head) it was time to close the CaC forum, but....what we have now is failure to communicate!

I want 4e & 3.x forums seperate - I keep getting confused and 4e thread seem to be squished off boards by 3.5e threads and people post mixtures of 4e and 3.xe answers to rules questions and......

*sigh* I've nothing against any ed of D&D, but I like to keep my flavours seperate. I like chocolate ice-cream and I like boiled fish - but I don't want to eat them mixed up together.
#20

legdiwena

May 21, 2008 9:46:25
Change DMG thread back to it's right name and give us back DM Rules Counseling and What's a Player to Do.
#21

Artifact

May 21, 2008 10:21:46
You can't please everyone. I'm the forum lead for Dungeon Master Guidance (formerly What's A DM To Do?) and I proposed that name. You can see my thoughts on why I proposed a name change [post=15905705]here[/post]

I think your reasoning for the name change is reasonable and well thought out. I like it better than the original.

I notice its been changed (again) to "DM Advice" (which runs with "Player Advice" of course). Did you lose a battle here, wrecan? ;)
#22

wrecan

May 21, 2008 10:52:22
Apparently, I did. I didn't even know we were fighting! IMAGE(http://astonvilla.rivals.net/Forum/images/Emoticons/black_eye.jpg)
#23

Zherog

May 21, 2008 11:08:04
Obviously, you failed your Initiative check and Community Management scored a sneak attack. :D
#24

Haldrik

May 21, 2008 15:27:17
Wrecan, they did change the threads name from "Whats a DM to do?" per your recommendation, kept your recommendation of "Player Advice", and simply had the DM thread parallel this name too. Overall, you got most of what you were looking for.
#25

wrecan

May 21, 2008 15:48:46
I was being tongue-in-cheek. I'm actually fine with "Dungeon Master Advice", even if I though "Dungeon Master Guidance" was better. I have few complaints about the forum reorganization, though I'd like my sticky threads to get fixed
#26

Greyson

May 21, 2008 21:57:29
Please restore the Other Worlds threads to their previous arrangement. The merging of so many disparate campaign settings borders on insulting to the myriad publics of each setting. It certainly confuses and disenchants users of those boards. If the goal was to send users away from Gleemax to external sites, mission accomplished. If not, I suggest another meeting where it is strongly urged that the boards are restored to their former organization.

Thanks.
#27

hellmute

May 24, 2008 9:50:02
Remove the left side sidebar menu (includes Mailing Lists, and other options) from any and all forums that cause viewing of the threads to be compressed on the screen.

http://forums.gleemax.com/forumdisplay.php?f=869 example can be seen there.
#28

Zherog

May 24, 2008 11:09:04
Remove the left side sidebar menu (includes Mailing Lists, and other options) from any and all forums that cause viewing of the threads to be compressed on the screen.

There's a setting for this in your User Control Panel. Mine is set, and when I follow your link I don't see the menu.

To get to it:

My Account -> Edit My Thread Viewing Options

Scroll down to the "Thread Display Options" section, and in there is a sub-section labeled "Thread Display Options." The second option in that section is "Do NOT display extra columns in certain product areas (this setting doesn't affect the forum home page). " Check that box and save your settings. The menu on the left will go away.
#29

hellmute

May 24, 2008 11:35:20
There's a setting for this in your User Control Panel. Mine is set, and when I follow your link I don't see the menu.

To get to it:

My Account -> Edit My Thread Viewing Options

Scroll down to the "Thread Display Options" section, and in there is a sub-section labeled "Thread Display Options." The second option in that section is "Do NOT display extra columns in certain product areas (this setting doesn't affect the forum home page). " Check that box and save your settings. The menu on the left will go away.

Thanks, I prefer forums using PHPBB, so don't knoweverything about vBulletin. But this proves my point in anotther thread about knowing how to use the forums software by the users removes need for splitting/merging forums.

Am trying that option now to disable the sidebar menu.
#30

animunculi

May 24, 2008 11:36:30
I would like if either all the forums or none had the small picture beside them. It's kind of minor cosmetic, but they distract me from the forum names.
#31

hellmute

May 24, 2008 11:39:36
I would like if either all the forums or none had the small picture beside them. It's kind of minor cosmetic, but they distract me from the forum names.

Try following the above info given to me but check the section "Do NOT display forum icons (this setting doesn't affect the forum home page)."

This removes the pictures other than "new posts" icons from the forums and makes for much better reading.

Got rid of that giant ? image.