I list the whole course and proof hereinafter:
1. On April 20, I discover that a drow plays protagonist in this novel. After reading, it seemed like there is a sense of déjà vu. The plot, structure and description are all quite familiar and the protagonist is almost one renamed Drizzt Do'Urden. Afterward, I put an article under the novel in order to enquire the author. She deleted my article for the first time, and then refuted me term by term. She declared that because she had done some changes and additions to original plot, so the novel was her own work, not plagiarism.
2. I continued to post article including proof on the BBS forum of this website. Some DND fans replied it after identification. Most of them hold that this novel was similar as The Dark Elf Trilogy in setting, diction and details. It really had the suspicion of plagiary. During this period, the author insisted on her chicanery, also told her readers we were caviling.
3. I sent short message to managers for this literature website, and posted complaint to this novel on the proper subforum. The management responded that they had done appropriate treatment on May 4. But by observing the webpage of this novel, it could be obviously perceived that the author just wrote an announcement in her novel synopsis which accepted she made use of FR setting, used The Dark Elf Trilogy for reference, and her novel was a fan-fiction. And even, the novel is still on the ranking of website first page and the ranking of "editor recommend".
4. At the initial beginning, I look on it as a plagiarism event. However, with forming of rebuke public opinion to the author on forum, she modified some words and details to cover up trace of plagiarism. At the outset, for contrasting this novel and The Dark Elf Trilogy, I have downloaded TXT file of the initial novel which can be taken as proof.
5. Although the author refuses to admit the fact of literary piracy, she still declares that she indeed uses the setting of DND after modification to plagiarism part. It can be determined that my purpose to safeguard copyright of The Dark Elf Trilogy. Whereas, I delate the author unremittingly because her novel has entered into VIP from May 1. That means readers can only read VIP chapters by paying money. Since plagiarism, furthermore, she uses system of DND and FR to acquire revenues infringing the intellectual property of WOTC. And the managers and editors in that website disregard this problem. That's why I email to your company. I hope I can get timely feedback.
Thank you.
A reader from China and her friend living in Canada
Appendix
Website homepage: http://www.jjwxc.net/
Novel first page: http://www.jjwxc.net/onebook.php?novelid=304355
Discussion address: http://bbs.jjwxc.com/showmsg.php?board=3&id=365288&msg=耽美闲情
Complaint address: http://bbs.jjwxc.com/showmsg.php?board=30&id=4350&msg=原创意见区
Content in the rar file:
1. Discussion article posted on BBS forum
2. Reply from management for complaint
3. Announcement made by author in her brief introduction
4. TXT file of initial edition
5. Webpage of this novel
6. Picture of VIP chapters
7. Picture of ranking of website first page
8. Picture of the ranking of "editor recommend"
9. Webpage of explanation to VIP in this website
Rar file download address: http://www.divshare.com/download/4828997-738
There's a decent series of Harry Potter rip-offs by a man in Russia (Tanya Grotter, a young russian witch at a russian analog of Hogwarts, the first novel was a direct copy of Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone).
Same thing.
Even watching old reruns of shows with my wife, you can see the same things happening over and over again. Watch TV Land sometime, then go and watch some modern shows, and you'd be amazed.
I could be wrong, but I believe China (much like Rusia) doesn't exactly recognize American copywrites.
-Correct.
-Correct.
Well, I know Malaysia has laws that actually forbid that enforcement of international copyright law within their borders. It does not eurprise me that many of the countries that did not sign the Berne Convention would not recognize copyrights either.
Well, I know Malaysia has laws that actually forbid that enforcement of international copyright law within their borders. It does not eurprise me that many of the countries that did not sign the Berne Convention would not recognize copyrights either.
-It's currently a hot-button issue in the International Community, with the proliferation of digital music and other media so easily obtainable via the internet.
If I were chinese and i was a fan of FR, but you would get stoned to death for owning/reading/fan boying drizzt, I would much rather read about Grizzt frourden and crewanoar, lol
The short version is, Communism didn't recognize ideas as having an intrinsic value, since they didn't require raw materials, and making them wasn't considered work. A book had value, but the actually story did not.
Therefore, Communist countries didn't develop any sort of Intellectual Property laws or protections, and viewed that concept as some sort of decadent western eccentricity.
This is why both Russia and China pump out steaming mounds of bootleg software, movies, video games, etc. They don't recognize the content as having value, just the medium itself, so if you make the medium, copying the content isn't (by their legal system) stealing.
Even D&D started as a big LotR ripoff.
Pretty much every fantasy novel rips ideas from each other. The greater bulk just being re-writes of others with different titles. I don't see the big deal.
Even D&D started as a big LotR ripoff.
-There is, of course, a difference between something "influencing" your work, and blatant plagiarism.
-There is, of course, a difference between something "influencing" your work, and blatant plagiarism.
Of course, but that doesn't change my comment at all.
Of course, but that doesn't change my comment at all.
-"I don't see the big deal."?
-"I don't see the big deal."?
Its so prevalent in novel publishing/writing, and has been for such a long time, this is just a drop in the ocean. Take a look at all the bargain bin junk that few have ever heard of, most of it are just rewrites of the "big name" stories, or the same stories with different characters plugged in. Just a drop in the ocean.
Its so prevalent in novel publishing/writing, and has been for such a long time, this is just a drop in the ocean. Take a look at all the bargain bin junk that few have ever heard of, most of it are just rewrites of the "big name" stories, or the same stories with different characters plugged in. Just a drop in the ocean.
-Like I just said, there is a difference between something being an "influence" in your work, and blatantly plagiarism of someone else's intellectual property. What you are describing is the former, not the latter. What the OP is describing (and, I'll take his/her word on it, because I cannot read the content in question) is the latter, not the former.
I discover that a drow plays protagonist in this novel. After reading, it seemed like there is a sense of déjà vu. The plot, structure and description are all quite familiar and the protagonist is almost one renamed Drizzt Do'Urden.
or the same stories with different characters plugged in
Sounds like we're talking about the same thing to me...
-I suggest you read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagerism
Plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work
So... am I the only one who realizes thats exactly what I'm talking about?
So... am I the only one who realizes thats exactly what I'm talking about?
-Something/someone influencing your own work =/= Plagiarism
Something/someone influencing your own work: Halflings live in a rustic countryside, where they like relaxing.
Plagiarism: Nilbo Haggins lives in the Whire, and finds Mauron's Bling of Power.
-Something/someone influencing your own work =/= Plagiarism
Yes, I already agreed with you on that.
Something/someone influencing your own work: Halflings live in a rustic countryside, where they like relaxing.
My main point isn't this.
Its this:
Plagiarism: Nilbo Haggins lives in the Whire, and finds Mauron's Bling of Power.
Also, "Bling of Power" is so getting used in a d20 Modern game. :P
My main point isn't this.
Its this:
-Alright...And, you "don't see the big deal"?
Also, "Bling of Power" is so getting used in a d20 Modern game. :P
-Be my guest.
-Alright...And, you "don't see the big deal"?
I was being facetious, and apparently failing at it.
Mainly I mean it happens so much among smalltime bargin-bin publications this is only "just another example."
I was being facetious, and apparently failing at it.
-Apparently so. Had I know that...
cheers, mates!
Let's not get Flying Buffalo in here, WotC has enough problems recently.
Any fantasy book or movie you percieve for x-ample is going to have a person running around hacking up enemies with a sword.
After Dungeons and Dragons for x-ample, you had a slew of games that used the name form for thier product, ie being a location and a monster/creature name.
Just after Magic came out, and made a gazillian dollars, about 80,00 other sucky tcg's were released (with maybe one or 2 good ones)
Nilbo Haggins lives in the Whire, and finds Mauron's Bling of Power.
Hey, I'd read that! :P
('almost blasted my keyboard and LCD with vegetable cocktail.)
Hey, I'd read that! :P
('almost blasted my keyboard and LCD with vegetable cocktail.)
-I didn't think it was particularly funny, but I guess I'm happy everyone...um...enjoyed?
-I didn't think it was particularly funny, but I guess I'm happy everyone...um...enjoyed?
Well, not being a native english speaker, and not being an urban american either, I guess I still find the word "bling-bling" quite funny, especially when it's out of place (images of "Mauron" with kilos of corny jewelry, including one of those... bizarre... teeth grilles come to mind). I know, silly.
Being from New York, it probably got old for you a while ago, though.
Also, "Bling of Power" is so getting used in a d20 Modern game. :P
That's exactly what I was just thinking... that's just awesome.
There.. I edited it some more for you.