[4E] Eternal Glory vs. Sehanine's Stalkers

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#1

salrantol

May 27, 2009 22:33:42
Eternal Glory

Eternal Glory
VP: 5 (Record: 2/1)
[post=18496563]Blackmarket Approved[/post]


Bull
Bull
Male Minotaur Barbarian
Hit Points....38......Bloodied....19
Healing Surge.09......Surges/day..12
Initiative....+1......Speed.......6
Passive Perception................18

AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
15.....16......12......11
[HP: 15(starting)+18(con)+5(toughness)]
[Speed: 6(base)] [Surges: 8(barbarian)+4(con)]
[AC: 10(base)+3(armor)+1(dex)+1(agility)]
[Fo: 10(base)+4(str)+2(class)]
[Re: 10(base)+1(dex)+1(agility)]
[Wi: 10(base)+1(wis)]


Attack Workspace:
Melee Basic... Large Maul +6, 2d8+4 [crit: 20]
Ranged Basic.. Large Javelin +6, 1d8+4 (Range 10/20) [crit: 12]
[Maul: +4 Str, +2 Prof]
[Javelin: +4 Str, +2 Prof]


At-Will Attack Powers:
Recuperating Strike (Barbarian 1)
Melee Weapon....+6 vs. AC
Hit: 2d8+4 damage and i gain 4 temporary HP.
[crit:20]
Rage: If I am raging, i gain 9 temp HP instead.

Howling Strike (Barbarian 1)
Melee Weapon....+6 vs. AC
Hit: 2d8+1d6+4 damage.
[crit:26]
Special: I can use this power instead of a melee basic attack when charging.
Rage: If I am raging, I gain +2 speed for the charge.

Encounter Attack Powers:
Swift Charge (Barbarian Feature)
Free Action....My attack reduces an enemy to 0 HP.
Effect: I can charge another enemy.

Bloodletting (Barbarian 1)
Melee Weapon....+6 vs. AC
Hit: 4d8+4 damage.
[crit:36]
Special: If my target is bloodied, I deal an 4 extra damage.

Goring Charge (Minotaur Racial)
Melee 1....+6 vs. AC
Hit: 1d6+4 damage, and the target is knocked prone.
[crit:10]
Special: I must charge as part of the attack.

Daily Attack Powers:
A rage power allows me to enter a rage. A rage lasts until I enter a new rage or until the end of the encounter.

Bloodhunt Rage (Minotaur 1) [used]
Melee Weapon....+6 vs. AC
Hit: 6d8+4 damage.
[crit:52]
Miss: Half Damage.
Effect: I enter the rage of the bloodhunt. Until the rage ends, I gain a +4 bonus to melee damage rolls if either I or the target is bloodied.

Utility Powers:
none yet

Item Powers:
none yet

Ability Scores
Ability....Check......... Ability....Check
Scores....Modifier....... Scores....Modifier
STR 18.....+4............ CON 18.....+4
DEX 12.....+1............ INT 10.....+0
WIS 12.....+1............ CHA 08.....-1

[Starting Str 16 (9), Dex 12(2), Wis 12(2) Con 16(9), Cha 8]
[Racial: Str+2 to 18, Con+2 to 18]


Skills
Acrobatics.......+0~
Arcana...........+0
Athletics..(T)...+8~
Bluff............-1
Diplomacy........-1
Dungeoneering....+1
Endurance..(T)...+8~
Heal.............+1
History..........+0
Insight..........+1
Intimidate.......-1
Nature...........+2°
Perception.(T)...+8°
Religion.........+1
Stealth..........+0~
Streetwise.......-1
Thievery.........+0~
° .. Including +2 Racial Bonus
~ .. Including -1 ACP

Feats
Toughness Level 1

Class Features
Barbarian Agility (+1/2/3 to AC and reflex when not wearing heavy armor)
Feral Might (Rageblood Vigor, I gain 4 temp HP when I drop an opponent)
Rampage (Once per round, if I score a crit, I can make a melee basic attack)

Racial Features
Ferocity (If dropped, I can make a melee basic attack as a free action)
Oversized (Use large weapons)
Goring Charge (see powers)

Equipment:
Hide armor [30 gp][25 lb]
Large Maul [30 gp][12 lb]
2 * Large Javelin [2*5 gp][2*2 lb]

Total: 70/100 gp, 41/180 lb

#2

salrantol

May 27, 2009 22:34:34
Eternal Glory
You start in the south box.
#3

LinkN

May 27, 2009 22:52:01
Stalkers
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,15,29,8,26,Sethala;b=Name,M,15,30,9,26,Aventhressa)

Start with daggers (Aventhressa) and bow (Sethala) in hand. Move as shown, attempt stealth and perception checks if no enemy in sight, and ready Twin Strike or Deft Strike against first enemy in range.
#4

whitebaron

May 28, 2009 1:43:22
lalala

bull with maul, boar with nothing,
start front center and move towards the center.
#5

salrantol

May 28, 2009 5:34:59
Eternal Glory
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,16,5,16,11,16,15,Bull;b=Name,M,17,5,17,10,17,15,Boar)
Bull acts first. You see no enemies.
#6

LinkN

May 28, 2009 13:14:29
Stalkers
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,8,26,4,19,Sethala;b=Name,M,9,26,7,25,8,23,Aventhressa)

Ready actions as above. Stealth and perception checks if no enemy contact.
#7

whitebaron

May 28, 2009 16:11:11
glory

any reason why i just single moved? i wanted to be in the center by now.

circle the center, searching for opponents. stay put if i see noone, or

- stay put if i am out of range to reach them
- or wait for the precise attack to be used (most likely thornwhip and maybe howling or goring charge. )

#8

salrantol

May 28, 2009 17:26:47
Eternal Glory
any reason why i just single moved? i wanted to be in the center by now.

start front center and move towards the center.

You didn't say to double walk, you just said move. If you want to double walk, you should say so. In fact, for greatest precision, you should use the mapper. I will update it above. If that changes your plans for this round, please say so.
#9

salrantol

May 30, 2009 0:43:24
Eternal Glory
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,16,15,18,15,18,18,17,18,Bull;b=Name,M,17,15,Boar;d=Name,M,7,25,5,22,4,19,Sethala;los=17,15,5,22,3)
After Bull moves, Boar spots Sethala moving to the northwest.
#10

LinkN

May 30, 2009 1:37:21
Stalkers
Can I get you to roll up stealth and perception checks for Sethala in round 2?
#11

whitebaron

May 30, 2009 3:24:22
boar

moves 3 W and readies thornwhip on the first enemy he sees. (pull closer towards bull)
#12

salrantol

May 30, 2009 3:36:47
#13

LinkN

May 30, 2009 7:49:26
Stalkers
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;c=Name,M,9,26,7,24,8,23,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,8,26,7,25,4,20,4,19,Sethala)

Ready deft strike on first enemy in range, stealth and perception checks.
#14

salrantol

May 30, 2009 12:42:46
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15;c=Name,M,9,26,7,24,7,23,8,23,Aventhressa;los=14,15,7,23,4)
Boar autospots Aventhressa and attempts a Thorn Whip. [18-2Co vs. Fort 10, Hit]
Sehanine's Stalkers
Aventhressa takes 8 damage. She is at 15 HP.
Any change to actions?
#15

whitebaron

May 30, 2009 12:46:40
don't forget: avanthressa is forced 2 squares towards boar.

map after forced movement:

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15;c=Name,M,9,26,7,24,7,23,9,21,Aventhressa)
#16

salrantol

May 30, 2009 12:48:59
That is correct. My apologies for the mistake.
#17

LinkN

May 30, 2009 18:46:15
Stalkers
I should have 2 movement left, so continue to the next stop. Minor action to use Darkfire on Boar (it's mis-labeled as Cloud of Darkness on my character sheet). If it hits, Sly Flourish on him at range. If it misses, double-move to the last stop on the map, and stealth.

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15;c=Name,M,9,21,7,20,4,15,Aventhressa)

Edit: Just read your reply on the boards, so I'm assuming you won't run it that way. In which case, move as such if Darkfire misses (still Sly Flourish if it hits):

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15;c=Name,M,9,21,4,16,Aventhressa)
#18

salrantol

May 30, 2009 20:44:59
Sehanine's Stalkers
You actually don't have movement left, because a readied action is an immediate reaction, and can only happen at the end of an action. Look at the map I posted of your movement and you'll see that you continued from the autospot square to the end of your posted movement before being attacked. The pull could still move you to the same square whitebaron posted, so I didn't correct his map. Still, with speed 7, you can reach the square you wanted to reach on another movement anyway.
#19

LinkN

May 30, 2009 20:50:27
Rules
Check what I posted in the Fight of the Week thread, actually.

Also, being a drow, Aventhressa has a speed of 6, not 7.

Oh, and: stealth check, please.
#20

salrantol

May 30, 2009 20:59:49
Sehanine's Stalkers
Also, being a drow, Aventhressa has a speed of 6, not 7.

Oh, and: stealth check, please.

Bah, for some reason, despite having run multiple fights for them, I *still* can't tell Sethala and Aventhressa apart without having their sheets open.

And the I thought the Stealth check was already in the roller, but it was Stealth and Perception for Sethala.
#21

whitebaron

May 31, 2009 2:22:54
bull

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,17,18,16,20,14,19,Bull;b=Name,M,17,15,14,15,Boar)

bull moves out of the center a bit, looking for opponents. if he can't find anyone, he'll move back as shown. and ready howling strike on an opponent getting into range. if he finds someone, actions depend on where they are.

he does not try to be stealthy...
#22

salrantol

May 31, 2009 7:28:33
Eternal Glory
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,17,18,16,20,16,19,14,19,Bull;b=Name,M,17,15,14,15,Boar)
Bull sees no one. Readying as mentioned.
#23

LinkN

May 31, 2009 17:03:23
Tactics
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15,Boar;c=Name,M,4,15,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,4,19,5,22,Sethala;los=5,22,14,15,1)

Sethala will move out, quarry Boar, and use Two-fanged Strike on him. Elven Accuracy if either of the attacks miss.

May use an action point after the attack, depending on what happens.
#24

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 5:44:16
Sethala moves into the open. She declares Boar her quarry and fires two arrows at him. [Two-Fanged Strike: 17-2Co=15 vs. AC 17, Miss; 23-2Co=21 vs. AC 17, Hit; Elven Accuracy: 18-2Co=16 vs. AC 17, Miss] Not content with those results, she fires two more. Boar is bloodied. [20! vs. AC 17, Hit;21-2=19 vs. AC 17, Hit]
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15,Boar;c=Name,M,4,15,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,4,19,4,20,5,22,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Boar takes 11 damage. He is at 19 HP.
He then takes 11 and 7 damage. He is at 1 HP.
#25

whitebaron

Jun 01, 2009 5:57:22
either you missed it, or linkn missed it - there is no quarry in the roller. (if linkn missed it, well, bad luck, to late. :D)

boar

second wind + thornwhip on sethala. (pull diagonally closer if it hits
#26

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 6:10:35
Boar catches his breath and lashes out at Sethala with thorns, pulling her towards him. Sethala is bloodied. Boar moves out of sight. [Second Wind][Thorn Whip: 20! vs. Fort 11, Hit]
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15,14,14,Boar;c=Name,M,4,15,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,5,22,7,20,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Boar regains 7 HP. He is at 8 HP. He moved as requested.
#27

LinkN

Jun 01, 2009 6:54:07
Yes, use AP and Twin Strike.
#28

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 13:00:03
Updated for Sethala's AP above. Any changes, whitebaron?
#29

whitebaron

Jun 01, 2009 13:05:13
yep, add movement to
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#30

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 13:10:12
Updated above. Aventhressa is up.
#31

LinkN

Jun 01, 2009 17:11:23
Can I know which direction Boar was heading when he vanished? (i.e. what his last known position was? Unless he just moved 1 square south, Sethala would have seen him move at least one square.)

Tactics
I'm assuming he went in a southeast direction, the following tactics reflect that. If he moved somewhere else, tactics will change.

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;b=Name,M,14,15,Boar;c=Name,M,4,15,4,13,8,12,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,7,20,Sethala)

Single-move as shown, attempt a stealth check, active perception check, and ready Sly Flourish against first enemy in range.
#32

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 17:33:20
Bah, I updated the map too, but I guess I forgot to post the updated map. Updating now.
#33

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 17:46:35
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,14,19,Bull;c=Name,M,4,15,4,13,8,12,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,7,20,Sethala)
Aventhressa moves out. She and Bull spot each other.
Any changes to the rest of Aventhressa's actions?
#34

LinkN

Jun 01, 2009 20:29:45
Tactics
One thing I'd like to point out: Aventhressa does have cover from Bull (maybe superior cover, as the lines go across the corner of the wall; don't know if that counts as blocked or not), which means he doesn't see her unless she has a low enough stealth check (which I can't check for myself, as they're all private). He also has superior cover from her, so the reverse is also true: unless Aventhressa had a high enough Perception check, Bull should still be hidden.

Anyway. If Bull really is hidden, then tactics should remain unchanged as, technically, there is no difference from the start of my turn. If Aventhressa does see where Bull is, however, double-move as such and make another Stealth check:

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,14,19,Bull;c=Name,M,4,15,4,13,8,12,14,12,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,7,20,Sethala)
#35

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 20:42:45
Sehanine's Stalkers
One thing I'd like to point out: Aventhressa does have cover from Bull (maybe superior cover, as the lines go across the corner of the wall; don't know if that counts as blocked or not), which means he doesn't see her unless she has a low enough stealth check (which I can't check for myself, as they're all private). He also has superior cover from her, so the reverse is also true: unless Aventhressa had a high enough Perception check, Bull should still be hidden.

I was very careful about this. Aventhressa failed her Stealth check last round, so she was not hidden from Bull. Therefore, she did not get to make a Stealth check against him this round, as she did not have total cover. whitebaron had specified in his tactics for Bull that he was deliberately not being stealthy, so you spot him.

You complete your move as requested, shown is the limit of Bull's perception.
#36

LinkN

Jun 01, 2009 21:02:52
Salrantol
Noted. As I stated before, I'm just cautious, it seems like I've been doing bad with the whole stealth thing for most of the match. Granted, they do have perception mods higher than my stealth mods (after the -5 movement penalty), but still, just confirming.

Although I really do wish that the stealth rolls aren't privatized...
#37

salrantol

Jun 01, 2009 21:58:06
LinkN
Although I really do wish that the stealth rolls aren't privatized...

I don't want people metagaming based on "Oh, I know I beat his Perception, so I can be sure I get a sneak attack or Predator's Eye or whatever." They *should* be unsure as to whether they are hidden.
#38

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 9:23:10
bull &boar

move and howling charge sethala
if she survives, AP and bloodletting

since boar will be up next, either double move as shown, or single move and use thorn whip.
#39

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 11:40:03
Eternal Glory
move and howling charge sethala
if she survives, AP and bloodletting

since boar will be up next, either double move as shown, or single move and use thorn whip.

It looks like you meant to post a map, but it's not there. Waiting on map to post.
#40

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 11:43:26
ah, shoot.
the map

IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,14,19,11,17,8,19,Bull;b=Name,M,14,14,13,16,12,20,13,21,Boar;c=Name,M,4,15,4,13,8,12,11,12,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,7,20,Sethala)

also, do an active perception check from both, i might pinpoint Ava with luck...
#41

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 12:00:14
Bull moves out to find Sethala and charges her. [Howling Strike: 11+1chg=12 vs. AC 18, Miss] Dissatisfied with the results, he tries another tack. [13 vs. AC 18, Miss]
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,14,19,14,17,11,17,8,19,Bull;b=Name,M,14,14,Boar,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,7,20,Sethala)
Sethala is up.
#42

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 12:06:30
And, as a reminder, since today is the deadline day, I'll need tactics from both of you if the fight is not done by 3PM CDT (which is 3 hours from my previous post exactly if you're uncertain).

Thank you.
#43

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 12:22:15
tactics

that's easy. active perception checks. thornwhip/howling strike on whoever is visible.

on boars second thought - move boar as far up as he can go with a single move on his previous route - since av can get a no cover shot anyways.
#44

LinkN

Jun 02, 2009 15:46:04
Current round
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,8,19,Bull;d=Name,M,7,20,8,21,15,27,Sethala)

Sethala will quarry and Nimble Strike on Bull, shifting to the first stop before the attack, then move to the last stop.

Aventhressa will make an active perception check and, if she can find Boar, she'll attempt to hit him from stealth for bonus damage.
#45

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 16:26:51
Sethala delcares Bull her quarry and uses Nimble Strike to shift away from him. [16+1PS=17 vs. AC 15, Hit] She then walks away farther.
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,8,19,Bull;d=Name,M,7,20,8,21,10,22,15,27,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Bull takes 13 damage. He is at 25 HP
#46

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 16:38:12
Aventhressa tries to use Deft Strike for sneak attack, but discovers that Boar heard her coming. It ends up not mattering, as Boar is still dying. [20-2rng=18 vs. AC 17, Hit]IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,8,19,Bull;b=Name,M,12,18,Boar;c=Name,M,14,12,13,12,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,13,25,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Boar takes 9 damage. He is at -1 HP.
#47

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 16:52:19
Aventhressa tries a Dazing Strike on Boar. [16 vs. AC 15, Hit] She then walks away.
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,15,12,Bull;b=Name,M,12,18,Boar;c=Name,M,16,12,18,15,18,18,17,18,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,13,25,Sethala)
Bull readies a Howling charge.
Boar fails a death save.
Aventhressa reappears, chock full of daggery death. Bull is bloodied. [27+2CA-2Co=27 vs. AC 15, Hit] Bull charges. [13 vs. AC 17, Miss]
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,15,12,16,12,18,15,18,16,Bull;b=Name,M,12,18,Boar;c=Name,M,17,18,18,18,18,17,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,13,25,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Bull takes 14 damage. He is at 11 HP.
#48

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 16:54:30
just one question: since it does not make any sense, why did bull not ready a charge when he was dazed instead of a perception check on an enemy he knows will be there again?
#49

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 16:56:01
Aventhressa shifts and tries a Sly Flourish. [21 vs. AC 15, Hit]
IMAGE(http://www.identicalsoftware.com/coco/coco.php;v=1;map=Small Arena;a=Name,M,18,16,Bull;b=Name,M,12,18,Boar;c=Name,M,18,17,18,18,Aventhressa;d=Name,M,13,25,Sethala)
Eternal Glory
Bull takes 12 damage. He is at -1 HP.
#50

LinkN

Jun 02, 2009 17:00:57
just one question: since it does not make any sense, why did bull not ready a charge when he was dazed instead of a perception check on an enemy he knows will be there again?

Despite this move hurting my chances, I agree with whitebaron; that does seem like an odd move.
#51

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 17:02:27
Correcting the above. Since Bull was dazed, he had nothing to gain from beating Aventhressa's Stealth. The intention was to avoid an ugly CA-induced death, but since he gave CA anyway, no point.

Edit: Plus it was the number 1 item in wb's tactics or I wouldn't have even considered it.
#52

salrantol

Jun 02, 2009 17:17:09
Adjusted. It ended up not mattering since my dice decided to hate whitebaron instead of LinkN this week, today especially. Maybe I shouldn't have carved "Howling Strike sucks" where the 20 was supposed to be?
#53

LinkN

Jun 02, 2009 17:23:51
Heh... your dice didn't really hate anyone this week

Glory
d20: 18 rolls, 11.8 average

Stalkers
d20: 19 rolls, 12.5 average

Just seems like my high rolls were when I needed them most, and his were when it didn't matter a whole lot, I guess.

On a side note: 2d8+1d6+4 damage, on an at-will that doesn't have any special requirements? Sheesh, Aventhressa can't even do that when she's using Sneak Attack...
#54

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 17:43:36
well, this won't happen next time. ;) 20-18-19 in rapid succession - superior positioning on the opening of the fight could not work against that final outburst.

as for the at-will. well, that's what large mauls do. 2d8. good damage, but only +2 proficiency also gets sometimes problematic, like that one time, against that metal tin (paladin) ...
#55

LinkN

Jun 02, 2009 18:26:14
Still, your average damage with that thing is 16.5, and has no special conditions. Aventhressa's Sly Flourish with CA is only 17.5 average, and requires that she get CA somehow (either a flanking partner or stealth; main reason why I switched her to drow), otherwise it's only a measly 10.5.
#56

whitebaron

Jun 02, 2009 18:50:56
(you'd better not look at the bloodhunt crit value, then. :D)