[4E] Fights of the Week: 21 May 2009, Comments and Concerns

Post/Author/DateTimePost
#1

TelinArtho

May 20, 2009 7:46:48
Please don't edit the sheet after the deadline or you will lose the match.



News and Whatnot

Been a busy couple of weeks for me so I don't have a lot to add here. There's a couple of high profile topics in the council - specifically the Multi-team fight as a new fight type. I hope that we can come to a concensus on it by next pairings, so make sure your voice is heard if you have not posted about it already.

Other than that, new maps and dual-striker teams are both on the current docket. As always, see the Council of Sagaris thread for more information.

In the Tavern, we've begun talking about a possible UnCon event - a Grand Melee. UnCon is still quite a while away - but we have more setup work than many other forums, so I'd like to hammer out as much of the details as possible. If anyone has other ideas for the UnCon - post in the tavern or shoot me a PM.

New Rulings - Courtroom

  • nothing ruled on yet

Current Discussions
  • None

The Council Decisions/Revelations
  • Hedge Map is added as a map to fight on.

Current Topics
  • Campaigns - discussion on adding them to 4e
  • Dual-striker teams
  • Intimidate as an option
  • Map Feature of the Week options
  • New Fight Type: Multi-team fights
  • Remaking one character of a team/Restarting teams


Check out the Courtroom and Council to join in all the fun!


Rules of Sagaris
All that you need to know is written in the [post=18116720]Rules of Sagaris[/post].
It could be useful also to give a look to the [POST=16408482]Court Decisions[/POST]

Pairings
GM TelinArtho will pair the active Characters of Sagaris after the deadline. The Character Roster will be the second post of this thread.
Make sure that your character is not in [thread=1064195]prison[/thread].

Pitlording
You should use the CoCo Dice Roller for the fight.
If you need it, there is a nice [THREAD=551175]template[/THREAD] ready to use that will help.
You could find the Battle Map Tag Generator for dynamic Maps very useful. You must post a link to your fight in this thread when it is complete.
If you need a quick and dirty tool to calculate distances between two points (in 2-D or 3-D), this tool should suffice.

If a fight needs to be rerun, the Pitlord has to inform me (TelinArtho). I cannot react to requests from Players because the other player and the pitlord might disagree. I have little time to read the fight and the discussion. Please keep that in mind. PMs from players with rerun requests won't have an impact.

Comments & Concerns
Post any comments or concerns for this weeks fights in this thread.
Be kind and courteous to your fellow posters, and don't feed the pitlords.
Please remember that they do hard work and consume a lot of time to let you play. Above all, have FUN!

If you have questions or comments on any of the changes, please make your posts be heard in the Council of Sagaris!

Pitlords
Active Pitlords
3.5E Pitlords[indent]
  • [PM=329610]Erithmu[/PM] (39°) [Late:1/114] [High ECL ok, or 4e fight]
  • [PM=416973]Sjiggie[/PM] (22°) [Late:15/48] [High ECL ok]
  • [PM=338608]TelinArtho[/PM] (29°) [Late:11/216] [as needed]
  • [PM=621346]Turanson[/PM] (8°) [Late:0/22] [Offer: +1 if needed]
  • [PM=342682]Zevox[/PM] (7°) [Late:11/132]
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4E Pitlords[indent]
  • [PM=158441]LinkN[/PM] (7°)
  • [PM=287656]lonewolf[/PM] (8°) [Late:6/94] [Separate Thread please]
  • [PM=366091]MindWandererB[/PM] (78°) [Late:0/46] [Offer: +1 if needed]
  • [PM=381600]post_ironic[/PM] (4°) [If no 4e fights available, one 3.5e fight]
  • [PM=179483]Salrantol[/PM] (9°) [Late:1/17] [one 3.5e fight if needed]
  • [PM=338608]TelinArtho[/PM]
  • [PM=565472]whitebaron[/PM] (36°) [Late:0/72] [Offer: , 4e only, 5/21 and 5/28]
[/indent]

Inactive Pitlords
Inactive or Retired Pitlords: [indent]
  • [PM=370291]Abyssal Stalker[/PM] (-3°) [Late:4/60]
  • [PM=443544]Airwhale[/PM] (1°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=380913]Altaris13[/PM] (1°) [Late:4/3]
  • [PM=310133]amalcon[/PM] (1°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=437944]Anaconda[/PM] (2°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=201580]Aramil Dunskar[/PM] (0°)
  • [PM=236168]Argaud[/PM] (9°) [Late:0/5]
  • [PM=376924]Ariel23[/PM] (10°) [Late:2/4]
  • [PM=268291]Arstimis[/PM] (4°)
  • [PM=317159]Ashenai[/PM] (32°)
  • [PM=339047]Ayrynthyn[/PM] (14°) [Late:1/6]
  • [PM=332834]ayyiniwindryder[/PM] (15°) [Late:2/11]
  • [PM=256748]Barrelmaster[/PM] (4°)
  • [PM=371759]Begferdeth[/PM] (30°) [Late:1/7]
  • [PM=252478]Beldin[/PM] (-2°)
  • [PM=240421]bgt[/PM] (1°) [Late:2/2]
  • [PM=316776]Biota[/PM] (11°) [Late:1/6]
  • [PM=360131]bluemage55[/PM] (-2°) [Late:4/3]
  • [PM=398884]Book5[/PM] (35°) [Late:3/6]
  • [PM=555909]Callix[/PM] (32°) [Late:0/30] [Offer: +1 fight]
  • [PM=226573]Captain Mutilate[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=437595]CaptainStrong[/PM] (3°) [Late:0/3]
  • [PM=154373]Caterane[/PM] (160°) [Late:0/35]
  • [PM=233716]Cellardweller[/PM] (20°)
  • [PM=327805]Cerebus13[/PM] (13°) [Late:0/2]
  • [PM=700173]Cespinar[/PM] (0°)
  • [PM=631454]CrazyArtificer[/PM] (16°) [Late:2/31] [Offer: +1 fight in emergency]
  • [PM=375109]Deadly Assassin[/PM] (-2°)
  • [PM=239640]Delusional Illusion[/PM] (1°)
  • [PM=388463]Dr.Funk[/PM] (3°) [Late:0/3]
  • [PM=244489]Druid Roxors[/PM] (17°)
  • [PM=303884]Dracazar[/PM] (35°) [Late:0/5]
  • [PM=494679]dulsi[/PM] (26°) [Late:2/18]
  • [PM=565263]Durzulgor[/PM] (2°) [Late:2/6]
  • [PM=422761]DSugui[/PM] (16°) [Late:15/96]
  • [PM=336277]DTFarstar[/PM] (-5°) [Late:8/5]
  • [PM=560519]Eamane[/PM] (-4°) [Late:4/22]
  • [PM=340532]Einzelgaenger[/PM] (10°)
  • [PM=387207]Ellorion Saenelle[/PM] (-4°)
  • [PM=522983]Eluria[/PM] (7°) [Late:0/2]
  • [PM=387506]Emrys Donovan[/PM] (0°)
  • [PM=366749]Enterik[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=329610]Erithmu[/PM] (33°) [Late:1/114] [Offer: +1, high ECL ok]
  • [PM=250300]Etiquette_Gnome[/PM] (4°) [Late:3/9]
  • [PM=493519]False_Keraptis[/PM] (6°) [Late:0/4]
  • [PM=334199]funnymanmike[/PM] (6°) [Late:0/3]
  • [PM=361152]Gonbow[/PM] (2°) [Late:4/20]
  • [PM=249294]graymocker[/PM] (4°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=373126]GuardianAngel[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=451092]Hawkeye_60[/PM] (5°) [Late:1/1]
  • [PM=497769]Highfire[/PM] (6°) [Late:1/4]
  • [PM=495839]Hirumajoe[/PM] (22°) [Late:2/35]
  • [PM=384641]hogarth[/PM] (21°) [Late:2/23] [Low ECL only]
  • [PM=292611]Horatius[/PM] (7°) [Late:0/6]
  • [PM=327901]Huan[/PM] (233°) [Late:14/34] [Offer: 1 miniquest]
  • [PM=353515]Iced[/PM] (10°) [Late:13/24]
  • [PM=471470]Jerrick_QueKiri[/PM] (-5°) [Late:4/2]
  • [PM=251979]Jindl[/PM] (26°)
  • [PM=351297]Jstorrie[/PM] (-5°)
  • [PM=276552]Kaigan[/PM] (1°) [Late:11/24]
  • [PM=240132]Kedi[/PM] (-13°) [Late:2/2]
  • [PM=195315]KerlanRayne[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=208805]Khaim[/PM] (1°) [Late:1/3]
  • [PM=262456]King Uther[/PM] (127°) [Late:14/48]
  • [PM=315688]Kingside_Bishop[/PM] (1°)
  • [PM=429798]klangley[/PM] (1°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=275256]Korone[/PM] (2°) [Late:0/2]
  • [PM=506188]Krytos[/PM] (13°) [Late:0/7]
  • [PM=193073]LLMadCow[/PM] (13°)
  • [PM=390349]LongArcher[/PM] (0°)
  • [PM=430554]Lucanthrope[/PM] (-1°) [Late:1/1]
  • [PM=233555]Luni[/PM] (9°) [Late:2/10]
  • [PM=402982]Macbrea[/PM] (12°) [Late:6/60]
  • [PM=260613]MadCowTemplate[/PM] (8°)
  • [PM=252568]Magagumo[/PM] (5°)
  • [PM=161820]Mal-2[/PM] (11°) [Late:0/2]
  • [PM=309162]malakaiunseen[/PM] (3°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=361808]Malither76[/PM] (5°) [Late:10/24]
  • [PM=246119]Maraxus[/PM] (33°) [Late:2/22]
  • [PM=342670]Maverick Knight[/PM] (-2°)
  • [PM=324385]McJarvis[/PM] (56°) [Late:8/86]
  • [PM=227401]Megrim Lord[/PM] (-2°)
  • [PM=235606]Michael Noah[/PM] (8°)
  • [PM=236835]Mind Rogue[/PM] (18°)
  • [PM=420984]MitzaVolchenko[/PM] (23°) [Late:19/77]
  • [PM=210944]Moherajikuyx[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=572355]mucki[/PM] (14°) [Late:0/3]
  • [PM=248479]Myrridin[/PM] (16°) [Late:2/4]
  • [PM=303794]MysticMonk2005[/PM] (7°) [Late:2/10]
  • [PM=291017]MystErikEry[/PM] (7°)
  • [PM=623255]Nabuchadnezzar[/PM] (17°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=564638]namfrawd[/PM] (-2°) [Late:1/0]
  • [PM=359673]nickbeat[/PM] (8°) [Late:1/7]
  • [PM=334715]Nightbanegod[/PM] (6°) [Late:2/0]
  • [PM=385209]NiQil[/PM] (47°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=344887]Nurlithion[/PM] (3°) [Late:0/2]
  • [PM=347741]Odin the Reaper[/PM] (-1°)
  • [PM=347710]One_Winged_Angel[/PM] (17°)
  • [PM=381885]Papapeperoni[/PM] (-2°) [Late:5/8]
  • [PM=160179]Pauper[/PM] (1°)
  • [PM=285133]Pittbull[/PM] (82°) [Late:0/19]
  • [PM=296951]Piuro[/PM] (3°)
  • [PM=515111]Rauul[/PM] (-2°) [Late:21/48]
  • [PM=359641]Rim-Soulfang[/PM] (7°)
  • [PM=321957]SauroGrenom[/PM] (70°) [Late:0/58]
  • [PM=273453]Scaryfroman[/PM] (9°)
  • [PM=376509]Setzertrancer[/PM] (6°) [Late:0/1]
  • [PM=424115]shadowmaster[/PM] (2°) [Late:2/3]
  • [PM=364804]Shaken, not Stunned[/PM] (6°)
  • [PM=305350]Sindorin[/PM] (10°) [Late:0/3]
  • [PM=290673]Skojar[/PM] (18°) [Late:2/13]
  • [PM=258152]Sloisel[/PM] (6°)
  • [PM=186622]SnarkHunter[/PM] (24°)
  • [PM=169117]Snommelp[/PM] (30°) [Late:2/13]
  • [PM=516194]sonofzeal[/PM] (4°) [Late:2/11]
  • [PM=168478]SoulLord[/PM] (13°)
  • [PM=653957]SparkLone[/PM] (2°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=251642]Spasheridan[/PM] (8°) [Late:1/3]
  • [PM=500905]stimpydoda[/PM] (8°) [Late:0/6]
  • [PM=288745]StoneTree[/PM] (8°) [Late:3/5]
  • [PM=289372]Stormwind[/PM] (16°) [Late:1/8] [Offer: +1 miniquests] [Offer: +1 monster fight]
  • [PM=249762]Sunwolf[/PM] (2°)
  • [PM=242396]TaggIIV[/PM] (6°) [Late:1/1]
  • [PM=505050]TARDIS[/PM] (2°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=515516]Taureus_Drakken[/PM] (11°) [Late:4/16]
  • [PM=381695]TCB[/PM] (-1°)
  • [PM=167529]Tellish_of_Ket[/PM] (27°) [Late:1/10]
  • [PM=346290]templer10[/PM] (0°) [Late:7/170] [Request: no miniquests]
  • [PM=342978]Thaylen[/PM] (-1°) [Late:1/1]
  • [PM=372871]The Dread Dormammu[/PM] (-3°)
  • [PM=363599]TheMagister[/PM] (6°) [Late:0/50]
  • [PM=400427]The Undershadow[/PM] (5°)
  • [PM=373519]Traevanon[/PM] (13°) [Late:0/9]
  • [PM=157880]Turin[/PM] (19°) [Late:0/16]
  • [PM=333551]T'Var[/PM] (38°)
  • [PM=477457]UserNamer[/PM] (3°) [Late:2/18]
  • [PM=269446]Usurpator[/PM] (37°) [Late:5/8]
  • [PM=659889]Vasja[/PM] (3°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=376903]Vathelokai[/PM] (6°) [Late:7/52]
  • [PM=340656]Vecnoran[/PM] (4°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=274019]Vivat Grendel[/PM] (-1°)
  • [PM=707584]Vooderen[/PM] (2°) [Late:0/0]
  • [PM=394332]Warclone[/PM] (6°) [Late:1/10]
  • [PM=214599]wayreth[/PM] (10°) [Late:0/8]
  • [PM=331849]Xanadu[/PM] (23°)
  • [PM=462301]Yitzi[/PM] (9°) [Late:0/27] [Zero during quest]
  • [PM=456530]Zelck[/PM] (15°) [Late:0/24]
  • [PM=318507]Zerone[/PM] (8°)
  • [PM=303009]Zyme86[/PM] (-3°)
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#42

LinkN

May 25, 2009 17:23:48
Alright, some of my plans for today fell through, so I can get started on that fight. Here goes!

(Quick aside to anyone watching the roller: Yes, I really did roll for starting in the same box three times in a row.)
#43

LinkN

May 25, 2009 18:14:27
Eh, roller problem:

This is the fight's rolls. It's giving me a blank space instead of a number for Yurin's stealth check, and I think I remember someone saying that means the total is 0, but I wanna check that before I re-roll it or something.
#44

lonewolf

May 25, 2009 18:24:55
Eh, roller problem:

This is the fight's rolls. It's giving me a blank space instead of a number for Yurin's stealth check, and I think I remember someone saying that means the total is 0, but I wanna check that before I re-roll it or something.

correct. The result is zero and should not be rerolled.
#45

LinkN

May 25, 2009 19:27:18
Alright, thought so, thanks.

Hm... forgive all the deleted items in the roller, I keep forgetting everyone's contingencies.
#46

salrantol

May 25, 2009 20:11:25
Those dice were indeed one-sided, but I think I can do a little better than that: Llun is invisible in round 2. This means that she won't provoke from moving away.

Also I'm not sure why you had my characters dash out into the open instead of sneaking around and taking potshots as I said, but as things turned out I don't think it mattered. The inability to roll higher than a 4 on an attack roll is pretty crippling.

Well, you didn't have a clear plan if you saw them outside of range at the beginning, and your addendum said to try to attack from exactly 10, and those were the only spots at range 10 to get them, and you said to attack then move "if possible" and it wasn't possible to do so that round.

With regards to Llun provoking, she doesn't provoke OAs, but she was adjacent to and marked by Gundmir, and your tactics said to shift away under those circumstances, and nothing about invisibility says you don't provoke Combat Challenge attacks. Thus my comment about otherwise-sound tactics hosing you.
#47

LinkN

May 25, 2009 20:34:26
Bareth'kul's Minions vs Dwarven Misfits is [post=18654709]up[/post].

Apparently, my dice don't know who they want to hate, so I'm rolling low for everyone. Far more misses than hits with attacks, and a lot of the attacks that did hit, did so for minimum damage. Eventually (on round 10!), the Dwarven Misfits pulled out a win.
#48

salrantol

May 25, 2009 21:01:05
OK, seriously, your dice have had their revenge--Nemeia rolled THREE NATURAL ONES! And Enoch had two twos to join them. STOP THE HATE!
#49

TelinArtho

May 25, 2009 21:12:28
Thanks LinkN for picking up the fight. Send me a PM to remind me to credit the fight to you.