Rules of Gladius
All that you need to know is written in the [THREAD=448520]Rules of Gladius[/THREAD].
It could be useful also to give a look to the Court Decisions [POST=14575819]Part 1[/POST] and [POST=14575828]Part 2[/POST].
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Pairings
Link to pairings.
Make sure that your character is not in [thread=965489]prison[/thread].
Pitlording
You should use the CoCo Dice Roller for the fight.
If you need it, there is a nice [THREAD=551175]template[/THREAD] ready to use that will help.
You could find the Battle Map Tag Generator for dynamic [POST=7974958]Maps[/POST] very useful. You must post a link to your fight in this thread when it is complete.
If you need a quick and dirty tool to calculate distances between two points (in 2-D or 3-D), this tool should suffice.
Another useful link is the [POST=6469706]Quick Access tables for XP and Gold[/POST].
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If you have questions or comments on any of the changes, please make your posts be heard in the Council of Gladius![/quote]
Sorry to do this at the last minute, but I had a family emergency (grandmother-in-law died). So no updates or pairings from me today.
take care of your family and come back in a week or two. i believe telin and the other elders can fill in as long as it takes.
take care of your family and come back in a week or two. i believe telin and the other elders can fill in as long as it takes.
Thanks for volunteering me :P
Take your time MWB.
@All - if you sent a PM to pitlords this week - resend it to me if you can.
or 9 using if you used & instead ; for at least some of them.
Of course wizards won't let that one load with clicking on it. I guess that is why the current limit exists. Because if you add LOS or other effects you probably hit that limit. Not really sure what is causing it to break.
Re-Edit: It appears the rewrite rule for the ; is the cause. I've modified the rewrite rule to change the first ; to ? and leave the rest along. It then gets everything as "v" and breaks that manually by semicolons.
Should setup a test mapper so I don't break mine while testing things.
Edit 2: Oops. Just noticed this is the fight thread not the Tavern. Oh well.
thnx for the run. i really thought he'd use that fireball...
blindness vs. synesthete is not really the best choice...
though maybe i should have used it to start - so i can spot him better.
Turanson probably missed Synesthete.
-- but about the BIG hmm:
the city has lights all over that big plaza. he'd still fail his blindness save and concealments etc - but the whole spotting would not have been necessary.
Too few fights in that map, I'll keep note for the future.
One save decided everything.
Durzulgor vs. The Dark One is [post=15403342]up[/post].
One save decided everything.
nice - thanks for the run - i was suprised when durgulzur forgot the PFE.
note - rewards are wrong due to dark one's political career bonus of 24% - net ally penalty is 1% - so 2079 XP, 2574 gp.
nice - thanks for the run - i was suprised when durgulzur forgot the PFE.
note - rewards are wrong due to dark one's political career bonus of 24% - net ally penalty is 1% - so 2079 XP, 2574 gp.
fixed
[post=15381412]Gwerdan in the dark[/post] is up
thnx for the run. they might be hard to hit with that concealment - but they ain't that tough, too.
nice - thanks for the run - i was suprised when durgulzur forgot the PFE.
I actually thought about it, but forgot, that it would work against hideous loughter and counted on you not spotting me, before I got close enough to you. What really killed me was the light spell! ^^
first 20 rounds of Elrick vs Pseudodragon is up. Im not sure when I am gonna find the time to finish it, but I´ll get it done on Tuesday at the latest.
Couple of comments - First - and most importent - either Wounding attack or forced share pain or dispell psionic is illegal Feat.
Wounding attack has a BAB requirment of +8 so it can be taken either with feat gained at HD 12 or the bonus feat at Psy warrior 11 (HD 14), Dispell psioncs can also be gained only at HD 12 or psy warrior 11 (HD 14) since it'sa 3rd level power, so you can gain it when you access to 4th level powers (as expanded power). The same apply to Forced share pain whic an only be gotten at HD 12 or psy warrior 11.
and about that - ill remind you that you arent supposed to know you are facing elrick when picking the feats.
And about the actuall fight:
i have another dispell from a Scroll that can be done to remove his protections.
Also - i have a barkskin Scroll - Seems to me you should have used it when the barkskin was dispelled.
Also - elrick has lesser restoration potions for Con damage.
about all of them - i spesificly asked to use expendbles if needed - and i really couldnt have predicted that you will buy a ring of counterspell or picked dispell psionics as an expanded power with a feat or have wounding attack so i would need to rebuff/mention those - but the general tactic is there and the scrolls/potions are there for a reason so i will appriciate if you do them.
Also - you don't have fang attacking at all for some reason and i did mention to bring him there and i didnt ask to climb to any height that would precent that - and the dragon's size also prevents that.
Also - From the tactics - you should be doing wounding strike flyby attacks at all attacks - That mean that you need to refocus after the attacks in round 11, 12, 13 - before flyby attacking again - you did a flyby attack in those rounds so you can't refocus in the same round.
Couple of comments - First - and most importent - either Wounding attack or forced share pain or dispell psionic is illegal Feat.
Wounding attack has a BAB requirment of +8 so it can be taken either with feat gained at HD 12 or the bonus feat at Psy warrior 11 (HD 14), Dispell psioncs can also be gained only at HD 12 or psy warrior 11 (HD 14) since it'sa 3rd level power, so you can gain it when you access to 4th level powers (as expanded power). The same apply to Forced share pain whic an only be gotten at HD 12 or psy warrior 11.
Wounding attack can also be gained with the Psychic Warrior lvl8 bonus feat because the 2 racial HD that give 2 points of BAB.
and about that - ill remind you that you arent supposed to know you are facing elrick when picking the feats.
I know and I tried my best not to use that information. I even made some conscious choices that are suboptimal against Elrick(Truevenom and Forced Share Pain)
And about the actuall fight:
i have another dispell from a Scroll that can be done to remove his protections.
I missed the scroll and will use it.
Also - i have a barkskin Scroll - Seems to me you should have used it when the barkskin was dispelled.
You also have another barkskin prepared. I just didnt rebuff since you didnt say anything about rebuffing. But I understand that you could not have predicted this and if you want to, I will rebuff barkskin(but from memory to save you the scroll and for greater effect).
Also - elrick has lesser restoration potions for Con damage.
I planned to use that one as soon as his healing contingency kicks in.
Also - you don't have fang attacking at all for some reason and i did mention to bring him there and i didnt ask to climb to any height that would precent that - and the dragon's size also prevents that.
With speed 70 and flyby attacks, the dragon can easily attack Elrick from a position where Fang cant reach him and fly back out of reach again.
Also - From the tactics - you should be doing wounding strike flyby attacks at all attacks - That mean that you need to refocus after the attacks in round 11, 12, 13 - before flyby attacking again - you did a flyby attack in those rounds so you can't refocus in the same round.
well, he didnt even get close to you, much less got a chance to attack, so I would say the focus is not wasted there yet. If some Elder chooses to overrule me there I will change this, but I do think that I handled this correctly.
Wounding attack can also be gained with the Psychic Warrior lvl8 bonus feat because the 2 racial HD that give 2 points of BAB.
You also have another barkskin prepared. I just didnt rebuff since you didnt say anything about rebuffing. But I understand that you could not have predicted this and if you want to, I will rebuff barkskin(but from memory to save you the scroll and for greater effect).
With speed 70 and flyby attacks, the dragon can easily attack Elrick from a position where Fang cant reach him and fly back out of reach again.
yes i want the barkskin - it affects a few hits already i think - and here's hoping for that dispell magic - if i get rid of that energy adaptation and/or compression and PFE that can change things dramaticly.
The result is still pending answers to my question in the tavern.
If wounding attack doesnt work in that situation, Elricks healing contingency kicks in and things may change again.
I'll get started on your fight right after I get back from lunch. Looking at the tactics, I don't think it'll be too hard... I suppose we shall see.
[post=15405609]Korwald vs. Snaga[/post] rewards are up. Not sure if they are right. Is the max xp earned for a lose applied before or after allies bonus? Does that affect gold earned?
Before.
Thanks for the run man. I don't need an edit- but I think there was a 50/50 chance of the skeli hitting my camel instead of me. [since we're technically in the same exact space, and he can only target a 5ft square while we are concealed]
You certainly didn't apply that principle when Reginald Molehusband, his cohort, and various assorted psicrystals were invisibly mounted on a griffon. Just sayin'.
You certainly didn't apply that principle when Reginald Molehusband, his cohort, and various assorted psicrystals were invisibly mounted on a griffon. Just sayin'.
I don't recall the event, but I'm sure I was in my right mind then too
I need MWB and T10 to provide commentary to make sure that an amicable ending for all parties is possible.
Check it out [post=15433502]here.[/post]
ouch
Longshot vs Besthirah is posted... erm... there was kind of a problem. So it's not finished.
I need MWB and T10 to provide commentary to make sure that an amicable ending for all parties is possible.
Check it out [post=15433502]here.[/post]
1st impression:
Oof... I don't have a lot to say, but here's the way I'd do it:
5)if the DD doesn’t seem to be effective, change metamrophs action to max pps energy bolts and have longshot do energy current when he's close, transfer to crystal with solicit then another current. NOTE – if he has G.amorphea – just continue with energy Balls (endowed) + quickeded energy balls.
6)if I run out of PPS somehow use dorje of e-missiles.
DD isn't being effective (though not for the reasons templer might have thought), so energy bolts should be the way to go. Unfortunately it looks like they should be fire. And I can't see a reason not to use the energy missiles.
2nd impression: Wait... are these the right tactics?
Seeing it's the plains and you Could have built him a number of ways I think ill play it Safe and just blast the Crap out of him.
There were a couple of hours while I was left out of the pairings--I think templer was expecting an entirely different fight, a monster fight vs... a psychic warrior, I'd guess. I didn't see what he was paired against before the edit. I think you two need to work this out.
Maybe Templer wrote tactics against the Pseudodragon Psychic Warrior12 for both Elrick and Longshot?
I thought that at first as well, then I noticed that Elrick has a totally different set of tactics. Those tactics appear to be well written for that foe.
1st impression:
Oof... I don't have a lot to say, but here's the way I'd do it:
DD isn't being effective (though not for the reasons templer might have thought), so energy bolts should be the way to go. Unfortunately it looks like they should be fire. And I can't see a reason not to use the energy missiles.
Yea... I thought of that as well. Then I thought that the roll of the DD is to prevent melee, and it's working for that purpose. I see no reason that longshot will stop worrying about melee with besthirah. So the readied action should stay.
2nd impression: Wait... are these the right tactics?
There were a couple of hours while I was left out of the pairings--I think templer was expecting an entirely different fight, a monster fight vs... a psychic warrior, I'd guess. I didn't see what he was paired against before the edit. I think you two need to work this out.
Yea... There's obviously some mixup on templer's end of these tactics. Several of the details aren't right for the opponent and fight setting. I'm really leaning toward calling this an oversight on templer's part, and going ahead with the surrender.
If I don't hear anything from him by tomorrow morning, then I'll edit the rewards for a surrender at the current end point.
1st impression:
Oof... I don't have a lot to say, but here's the way I'd do it:
DD isn't being effective (though not for the reasons templer might have thought), so energy bolts should be the way to go. Unfortunately it looks like they should be fire. And I can't see a reason not to use the energy missiles.
2nd impression: Wait... are these the right tactics?
There were a couple of hours while I was left out of the pairings--I think templer was expecting an entirely different fight, a monster fight vs... a psychic warrior, I'd guess. I didn't see what he was paired against before the edit. I think you two need to work this out.
MWB - is right - It seems i accidently sent Sauro completly the wrong tactics - i
Actually - i checked again it was vs a half giant psi warrior with telin - 2 weeks ago - here
this are the right tactics - if you want to use them or not i suppose it's up to you - it WAS my fault after all
right tactics
Tactics for Longshot
Hey and thanks for pitlording
[u][General notes[/u]
1)please don’t forget political career of 34%.
2)Suppres all displays on Powers – and all powers are to be shared with bullet if possible.
3)longshot has share pain running with psicrystal.
4)metamorph actually has 35 pps for this fight – forgot to update after fight.
[u]setup[/u].
Start with dorjes of vigor and defensive precog in hand and powerstone of d.door in hand. Metamorph with force screen dorje in hands.
R1- Longshot drop the vigor dorje and the powerstone, darws/drinks potion of invisbility, metamorph buff with share pain from powerstone and pickup the defensive precog dorje.
R2- longshot buff with 14 pps vigor, metamorph buff with vigor (shared) from dorje and put it away..
R3- longshot touchsight, metamorph Activate winged boots and take up the d-door powerstone.
R4- longshot uses defensive precog dorje and put it away, Metamorph uses force screen dorje.
R5- longshot ready as below, metamorph manifest touchsight.
R6 – both move out – metamorph in front – Longshot single move and ready action max pps enlarged endowed energy current on sight (cold) - – metamorph single move and ready 5 points dispel on sight – Make sure to delay or whatever before reading so the Dispell happens first if they both spot Her.
After ready actions happened, longshot uses swift action to manifest solicit psicrystal, move action to regain focus and use another max pps enlarged energy current (cold) on bestirah, Metamorph uses energy bolt (cold) on her (And again next round). Uses my horses move actions to avoid her if at all possible.
If bestirah is attempting to Snipe – Drink a potion of invisibility if I haven’t already – advance on where arrows are coming from hiding along the way (both chars) – nuke when you get into touchsight range.
If bestirah has greater concealing amorphea on, and I didn’t make the initial 50-50 check for the current or the dispel – both drink potions of invisibility and avoid her for 5 more rounds, if she reuses it for 9 rounds – then go back to blasting, if she continue to be able to see through the invisibility consistently dump a 5 point dispel first from metamprph then longshot if first failed then go back to nuking.
Metamorph Should be using the 1 dispell, 1 touchsight and 2 9 pps energy bolts, leaving enough for another dispel if need – if it's not needed use it for energy bolt.
[u][ contingencies[/u]
1)use free move actins to regain focus if needed.
2)if grappled somehow, FOM to break free.
3)if vigors REAL hp goes to 35 or less, Have memtamorph d-door both them and the horse to the farthest point on the map from their current position, then have him use vigor dorje on himself, then use the emphatic transfer dorje (it's 4d10 healed, half that in dmg) to heal up longshot to full (revigoring himself if needed), then longshot use the vigor dorje – and go back to fighting.
4)if I run out of PPS use dorje of e-missiles (cold).
Have fun
Tactics for Longshot
Hey and thanks for pitlording
[u][General notes[/u]
1)please don’t forget political career of 34%.
2)Suppres all displays on Powers – and all powers are to be shared with bullet if possible.
3)longshot has share pain running with psicrystal.
4)metamorph actually has 35 pps for this fight – forgot to update after fight.
[u]setup[/u].
Start with dorjes of vigor and defensive precog in hand and powerstone of d.door in hand. Metamorph with force screen dorje in hands.
R1- Longshot drop the vigor dorje and the powerstone, darws/drinks potion of invisbility, metamorph buff with share pain from powerstone and pickup the defensive precog dorje.
R2- longshot buff with 14 pps vigor, metamorph buff with vigor (shared) from dorje and put it away..
R3- longshot touchsight, metamorph Activate winged boots and take up the d-door powerstone.
R4- longshot uses defensive precog dorje and put it away, Metamorph uses force screen dorje.
R5- longshot ready as below, metamorph manifest touchsight.
R6 – both move out – metamorph in front – Longshot single move and ready action max pps enlarged endowed energy current on sight (cold) - – metamorph single move and ready 5 points dispel on sight – Make sure to delay or whatever before reading so the Dispell happens first if they both spot Her.
After ready actions happened, longshot uses swift action to manifest solicit psicrystal, move action to regain focus and use another max pps enlarged energy current (cold) on bestirah, Metamorph uses energy bolt (cold) on her (And again next round). Uses my horses move actions to avoid her if at all possible.
If bestirah is attempting to Snipe – Drink a potion of invisibility if I haven’t already – advance on where arrows are coming from hiding along the way (both chars) – nuke when you get into touchsight range.
If bestirah has greater concealing amorphea on, and I didn’t make the initial 50-50 check for the current or the dispel – both drink potions of invisibility and avoid her for 5 more rounds, if she reuses it for 9 rounds – then go back to blasting, if she continue to be able to see through the invisibility consistently dump a 5 point dispel first from metamprph then longshot if first failed then go back to nuking.
Metamorph Should be using the 1 dispell, 1 touchsight and 2 9 pps energy bolts, leaving enough for another dispel if need – if it's not needed use it for energy bolt.
[u][ contingencies[/u]
1)use free move actins to regain focus if needed.
2)if grappled somehow, FOM to break free.
3)if vigors REAL hp goes to 35 or less, Have memtamorph d-door both them and the horse to the farthest point on the map from their current position, then have him use vigor dorje on himself, then use the emphatic transfer dorje (it's 4d10 healed, half that in dmg) to heal up longshot to full (revigoring himself if needed), then longshot use the vigor dorje – and go back to fighting.
4)if I run out of PPS use dorje of e-missiles (cold).
Have fun
Surprise round Gradak manifest chameleon from dorje stows it 5ft steps north and hides. (Initiative isn't rolled at this point so The Hunter can't observe me.)
Does having the ambush package really let you hide in the Plains?
Is the following rules interpretation correct?Does having the ambush package really let you hide in the Plains?
with Dark conditions: of course.
You need some sort of concealment to pull this off, and the lightning conditions provide that.
MWB - is right - It seems i accidently sent Sauro completly the wrong tactics - in fact i sent him the tactics used for last week's (i think) fight with Longshoot vs a monster - see last week's fight (lonewolf pitlording)
Actually - i checked again it was vs a half giant psi warrior with telin - 2 weeks ago - here
this are the right tactics - if you want to use them or not i suppose it's up to you - it WAS my fault after allright tactics
Tactics for Longshot
Hey and thanks for pitlording
[u][General notes[/u]
1)please don’t forget political career of 34%.
2)Suppres all displays on Powers – and all powers are to be shared with bullet if possible.
3)longshot has share pain running with psicrystal.
4)metamorph actually has 35 pps for this fight – forgot to update after fight.
[u]setup[/u].
Start with dorjes of vigor and defensive precog in hand and powerstone of d.door in hand. Metamorph with force screen dorje in hands.
R1- Longshot drop the vigor dorje and the powerstone, darws/drinks potion of invisbility, metamorph buff with share pain from powerstone and pickup the defensive precog dorje.
R2- longshot buff with 14 pps vigor, metamorph buff with vigor (shared) from dorje and put it away..
R3- longshot touchsight, metamorph Activate winged boots and take up the d-door powerstone.
R4- longshot uses defensive precog dorje and put it away, Metamorph uses force screen dorje.
R5- longshot ready as below, metamorph manifest touchsight.
R6 – both move out – metamorph in front – Longshot single move and ready action max pps enlarged endowed energy current on sight (cold) - – metamorph single move and ready 5 points dispel on sight – Make sure to delay or whatever before reading so the Dispell happens first if they both spot Her.
After ready actions happened, longshot uses swift action to manifest solicit psicrystal, move action to regain focus and use another max pps enlarged energy current (cold) on bestirah, Metamorph uses energy bolt (cold) on her (And again next round). Uses my horses move actions to avoid her if at all possible.
If bestirah is attempting to Snipe – Drink a potion of invisibility if I haven’t already – advance on where arrows are coming from hiding along the way (both chars) – nuke when you get into touchsight range.
If bestirah has greater concealing amorphea on, and I didn’t make the initial 50-50 check for the current or the dispel – both drink potions of invisibility and avoid her for 5 more rounds, if she reuses it for 9 rounds – then go back to blasting, if she continue to be able to see through the invisibility consistently dump a 5 point dispel first from metamprph then longshot if first failed then go back to nuking.
Metamorph Should be using the 1 dispell, 1 touchsight and 2 9 pps energy bolts, leaving enough for another dispel if need – if it's not needed use it for energy bolt.
[u][ contingencies[/u]
1)use free move actins to regain focus if needed.
2)if grappled somehow, FOM to break free.
3)if vigors REAL hp goes to 35 or less, Have memtamorph d-door both them and the horse to the farthest point on the map from their current position, then have him use vigor dorje on himself, then use the emphatic transfer dorje (it's 4d10 healed, half that in dmg) to heal up longshot to full (revigoring himself if needed), then longshot use the vigor dorje – and go back to fighting.
4)if I run out of PPS use dorje of e-missiles (cold).
Have fun
Undurion has 2 CR1 allies - which is his maximum penalty (25%)
Normal rewards for an ECL4 fight is 1200xp/1200gp for the winner and 400xp/400gp for the loser. Undurion has the correct 300xp/300gp - but Berri is listed at 2000xp/2000gp - which is a 66% bonus... Although I appreciate the effort - I believe the rewards should be 1500xp/1500gp.
Thanks.