In this thread, please post [b]only:[/b]
- NEW! A statement that you will write tactics for a participant that isn't actually your character or an agent you designed, such as a mercenary. This is an option for those who don't want to take the time to design an agent, or even those who don't really understand the whole idea, but would like to give it a shot.
- An agreed-upon Challenge. Please discuss this in another thread (Tavern or FotW), and post here only when something has been agreed on by all participants. I'll help with that process. Edits to sheets (in this thread) are not allowed after this time (not that there's any real penalty, but it's good sportsmanship).
- A statement that you will pitlord one of those challenges. First come, first served.
- The fight itself (don't use the Battles thread). Credits will be awarded upon completion; you'll earn at least 1, more if the fight turns out to be more complicated and time-consuming than a standard fight (which is likely).
Remember, this is only to playtest the Challenge portion of the Community rules (although we may end up using them for something else... UnCon, perhaps). Interest in the rest of the system (which should not be judged as it is, as it's far from complete) is not required.
Agents
- [post=14260871]The Shadow's agent[/post] (CR 1/2, Rauul)
- [post=14241438]Kitty's agent[/post] (CR 1, lonewolf)
- [post=14260862]Gortek's agent[/post] (CR 1, Rauul)
- [post=14295756]Krusk's agent[/post] (CR 1, mucki)
- [post=14332368]Varjo's agent[/post] (CR 1, Stormwind)
- [post=14510214]Maya's agent[/post] (CR 1, MindWandererB)
- [post=15501862]Vallgar's agent[/post] (CR 1, TelinArtho)
- [post=15493534]TIM Jr.[/post] (CR 1-2, McJarvis)
- [post=15501862]S'lertak's agent[/post] (CR 2, TelinArtho)
- [post=15505827]Enoch's agent[/post] (CR 2, Salrantol)
- [post=14295756]Krusk[/post] (ECL 3, mucki)
[post=14297339]Kii[/post] (ECL 3, Vathelokai)- [post=14295756]Khamul[/post] (ECL 3-6, mucki)
[post=14298616]Kykal[/post] (ECL 4, Eamane)- [post=14260862]Gortek[/post] (ECL 4-5, Rauul)
[post=14297415]Remnant[/post] (ECL 5, Vathelokai[post=14339870]Ackbar[/post] (ECL 5, Taureus Drakken)- [post=14241438]Darian[/post] (ECL 5-9, lonewolf)
- [post=14260871]The Shadow[/post] (ECL 6, Rauul)
- [post=14510214]Maya[/post] (ECL 7, MindWandererB)
[post=14242302]Shakari[/post] (ECL 7, Luni)[post=14242302]Imperi[/post] (ECL 7, Luni)- [post=14332368]Varjo[/post] (ECL 7-10+, Stormwind)
- [post=14241438]Kitty[/post] (ECL 10-12, lonewolf)
- [post=14241438]Therador[/post] (ECL 10-11, lonewolf)
- [post=15523421]Thorell[/post] (ECL 3-7, 11+, McJarvis)
- [post=14241445]The Chameleon[/post] (ECL 11-12, lonewolf)
- [post=14331062]Valen[/post] (ECL 13, Hirumajoe)
- [post=14241445]Samuel[/post] (ECL 13-14, lonewolf)
[post=14297270]Psibeast[/post] (ECL 13-14, Vathelokai)
- [thread=993943]King of the[/thread] [post=15482244]Hill[/post]: Krusk's, Varjo's, Maya's agents
- [post=14238294]Vathelokai[/post]
- [post=14239710]whitebaron[/post]
- [post=14269799]Rauul[/post]
I love killing PC's.
@MWB: Once the community stuff goes live, should the results from community fights be posted to the battles thread, or to a new 'community battles' thread, or somewhere else?
I suppose it would be good to post the results of these playtests to this thread for now, but I'm just trying to think ahead to once the community stuff goes live.
This is a playtest fight to test the proposed community rules. The fight is between Krusk's agent, Varjo's agent and Maya's agent. If you are not mucki, Stormwind or MindWandererB, please do not post here.
For the purposes of this fight, all participants are asked to roll using the same session (King of the Hill [Arena]: Krusk's agent vs. Varjo's agent vs. Maya's agent) of the CoCo dice roller (user: Playtest; password: playtest)
All participants are also required to use the [Arena] CoCo battle map to show any movement.
Finally, a summary of each rounds actions will be posted every round.
Results (after 50 rounds)
Maya's agent (Bartholomew): 7 rounds on the Hill (winner)
Varjo's agent (Ilma): 6 rounds on the Hill
Krusk's agent (Jack): 5 rounds on the Hill
Here are the comments regarding the playtest (and other) rules that came up during the fight:
- Currently, the rules don't say anything about having to 'stand' on the hill for a King of the Hill battle. This would need to be changed to prevent burrowing under or flying above if the consensus is that a character must 'stand' on the hill to gain points. I am currently assuming that you must 'stand' on the hill to count as occupying the hill.
- On another matter, gaining points in King of the Hill battles may be very difficult, paritculary with 4 participants. In such a case if one participant dies, then in the next four rounds (due to recovery rules) one participant must kill the two other still living participants just to be able to claim 1 point before the dead guy is on his feat and headed for the center again. This would imply that such fights are very likely to hit the 50 rounds maximum which might be a bit rough as an average ... we'll have to see how this works out, but I believe it is a potential problem, especially with higher level characters in fights with recovery rules.
- Interesting point however is that healing always heals an equal amount of non-lethal damage. To illustrate this consider an agent with 10hp who take 8hp damage and 14hp non-lethal damage. With the recovery rule this agent is healed to half hp, so the 3hp of actual damage is healed to bring the agent to 5hp, but this would still leave 11hp of non-lethal damage.
Perhaps an alternation to the recovery rule should be considered to remove all non-lethal damage remaining? - Regarding equipment: I agree something should be added in the recovery rules to prevent equipment from being looted/destroyed in this manner. Perhaps "Whilst a character/agent is awaiting recovery, their equipment is protected from further harm or removal from their person by the arena's highly qualified sorcerers."
- Flanking in 3D: in 3d you use cubes rather than squares so a flying creature (at 5ft height) cannot be used to flank a creature at ground level (0ft) by another creature at ground level (0ft). You'd have to run the line through opposite sides of the cube, which is impossible in this case.
- When disabled, does performing an AoO count as a strenuous activity, and thus cause you to drop from disabled to -1hp ... requires an Elder or GM ruling
- if you do nothing for a round with the intention of using it to begin or continue your recovery countdown, you do not count as occupying the hill for that round.
- thematic rolls are not kept (at least in separate thread/play-by-post fights) ... due to the fact that knowing the outcome of an action before you do it, allows you to optimize your actions accordingly.
- if at the end of round 50 in the case that we have a tie, then the characters that are tied (and only those characters) should continue until one of them gains a point.
Thus far, I'm pretty discouraged. None of the experiments we've tried so far have worked well enough to be usable, IMO. I think the Monster Hunt comes the closest, provided the monsters chosen provide a credible threat. The Takedown failed because there are too many ways to beat a monster, especially a tough monster, without doing HP damage. King of the Hill just took way too long. We haven't tried Capture the Flag or Grand Melee yet.
So, here's what I want to do:
- Try Monster Hunt again, and Capture the Flag and Grand Melee (if I can get enough Agents).
- Evaluate whether this idea is going to work at all--I have a feeling it may work better in 4e due to the losses of save-or-die, ability damage, and the more bizarre character concepts. In which case we should just wait until July at least before trying this again.
I'd imagine they'll be good test subjects since they are such "straight forward" character concepts. [Or they'll just get swamped by egowhip users, but whatever].
I didn't read about the situation- but you could just make the monsters immune to ability drain and say "tough luck" to characters that rely on this.
Edit: Remember, CR <=2 nonhumanoid monsters work fine, too. If you want to participate but don't want to build a PC, just choose a stock monster and go with it.
I'd especially like more Agents--do you have TIM and Thorell at level 1-2? Same goes for anyone else.
I can generate that shortly. As soon as I finish pitlording my fights tonight I'll draw them up.
I don't consider 6 weeks an acceptable amount of time to resolve a fight, so I'm more inclined to write this off as infeasible as written. Not sure how to fix it, either.
Tbh though, most of the time spent was due to the play-by-post nature (and the time difference of Europe/US). And that was only due to pitlord shortage. If this fight was held as usual, I think it would easily be finished in two to three hours.
Tim, level 1
Medium Humandoid(Elf)
->Mounted on animal(horse)
Hit Dice: 1d8+1 (9 hp)
Initiative: +3
Speed: 50 ft. (10 squares) [mounted]
Armor Class: 17 (+3 Dex, +4 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 14
Armor Class(horse): 13 (-1 size, +1 dex, +3 natural), touch 10, flat-12
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+4 (horse 2/9)
Attack: +4 longspear 1d8+6 or +4 armor spikes 1d6+4 or +3 longbow 1d8, 110ft.
Full Attack: same
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Spells
Special Qualities: low-light vision
Saves: Fort +1, Ref +3, Will +2 [mount +5/+4/+2]
Abilities: Str 18, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 14
Skills: Concentration +5, Intimidate +4, Knowledge(local)+2, ride +4, spellcraft +3
Feats: Power Attack
Spells:
Level 0: [3 per day] Resistance, Dancing Lights, Light
Level 1: [3 per day] Enlarge Person
Medium Humandoid(Elf)
->Mounted on animal(horse)
Hit Dice: 1d8+1 (9 hp)
Initiative: +3
Speed: 50 ft. (10 squares) [mounted]
Armor Class: 17 (+3 Dex, +4 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 14
Armor Class(horse): 13 (-1 size, +1 dex, +3 natural), touch 10, flat-12
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+4 (horse 2/9)
Attack: +4 longspear 1d8+6 or +4 armor spikes 1d6+4 or +3 longbow 1d8, 110ft.
Full Attack: same
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Spells
Special Qualities: low-light vision
Saves: Fort +1, Ref +3, Will +2 [mount +5/+4/+2]
Abilities: Str 18, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 14
Skills: Concentration +5, Intimidate +4, Knowledge(local)+2, ride +4, spellcraft +3
Feats: Power Attack
Spells:
Level 0: [3 per day] Resistance, Dancing Lights, Light
Level 1: [3 per day] Enlarge Person
S'lertak's Agent, CR2
SHOCKER LIZARD
Small Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 2d10+2 (13 hp)
Initiative: +6
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 20 ft., swim 20 ft.
Armor Class: 17 (+1 size, +2 Dex, +3 natural, +1 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 15
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/–2
Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d4)
Full Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d4)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Stunning shock, lethal shock
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., electricity sense, immunity to electricity, low-light vision
Saves: Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2
Abilities: Str 10, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
Skills: Climb +11, Hide +11, Jump +7, Listen +4, Spot +4, Swim +10
Feats: Improved Initiative
Environment: Warm marshes
Organization: Solitary, pair, clutch (3–5), or colony (6–11)
Challenge Rating: 2
Treasure: 1/10 coins; 50% goods; 50% items
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 3–4 HD (Small); 5–6 HD (Medium)
Level Adjustment: —
A shocker lizard has a pale gray or blue underside, shading to a darker hue on its back. It has blue-black markings along its back and tail. A shocker lizard is about 1 foot tall at the shoulder and weighs about 25 pounds.
COMBAT
A shocker lizard relies on its electricity abilities in combat. A lizard tends to bite only after its shock has rendered an opponent unconscious or when the shock seems to have no effect at all. A solitary lizard flees once it delivers its shocks, but if other shocker lizards are nearby, they all home in on their comrade’s discharges and attempt to administer their shocks to the foe.
Stunning Shock (Su): Once per round, a shocker lizard can deliver an electrical shock to a single opponent within 5 feet. This attack deals 2d8 points of nonlethal damage to living opponents (Reflex DC 12 half ). The save DC is Constitution-based.
Lethal Shock (Su): Whenever two or more shocker lizards are within 20 feet of each other, they can work together to create a lethal shock. This effect has a radius of 20 feet, centered on any one contributing lizard. The shock deals 2d8 points of electricity damage for each lizard contributing to it, to a maximum of 12d8. A Reflex save (DC 10 + number of lizards contributing) reduces the damage by half.
Electricity Sense (Ex): Shocker lizards automatically detect any electrical discharges within 100 feet.
Skills: Shocker lizards have a +4 racial bonus on Hide checks due to their coloration. Shocker lizards have a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks.
Shocker lizards use their Dexterity modifier instead of their Strength modifier for Climb and Jump checks.
A shocker lizard has a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on a Climb check, even if rushed or threatened.
A shocker lizard has a +8 racial bonus on any Swim check to perform some special action or avoid a hazard. It can always choose to take 10 on a Swim check, even if distracted or endangered. It can use the run action while swimming, provided it swims in a straight line.
Equipment (2000gp): Bracers of Armor +1, Cloak of Resistance +1, 0gp remaining
SHOCKER LIZARD
Small Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 2d10+2 (13 hp)
Initiative: +6
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 20 ft., swim 20 ft.
Armor Class: 17 (+1 size, +2 Dex, +3 natural, +1 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 15
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/–2
Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d4)
Full Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d4)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Stunning shock, lethal shock
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., electricity sense, immunity to electricity, low-light vision
Saves: Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +2
Abilities: Str 10, Dex 15, Con 13, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
Skills: Climb +11, Hide +11, Jump +7, Listen +4, Spot +4, Swim +10
Feats: Improved Initiative
Environment: Warm marshes
Organization: Solitary, pair, clutch (3–5), or colony (6–11)
Challenge Rating: 2
Treasure: 1/10 coins; 50% goods; 50% items
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 3–4 HD (Small); 5–6 HD (Medium)
Level Adjustment: —
A shocker lizard has a pale gray or blue underside, shading to a darker hue on its back. It has blue-black markings along its back and tail. A shocker lizard is about 1 foot tall at the shoulder and weighs about 25 pounds.
COMBAT
A shocker lizard relies on its electricity abilities in combat. A lizard tends to bite only after its shock has rendered an opponent unconscious or when the shock seems to have no effect at all. A solitary lizard flees once it delivers its shocks, but if other shocker lizards are nearby, they all home in on their comrade’s discharges and attempt to administer their shocks to the foe.
Stunning Shock (Su): Once per round, a shocker lizard can deliver an electrical shock to a single opponent within 5 feet. This attack deals 2d8 points of nonlethal damage to living opponents (Reflex DC 12 half ). The save DC is Constitution-based.
Lethal Shock (Su): Whenever two or more shocker lizards are within 20 feet of each other, they can work together to create a lethal shock. This effect has a radius of 20 feet, centered on any one contributing lizard. The shock deals 2d8 points of electricity damage for each lizard contributing to it, to a maximum of 12d8. A Reflex save (DC 10 + number of lizards contributing) reduces the damage by half.
Electricity Sense (Ex): Shocker lizards automatically detect any electrical discharges within 100 feet.
Skills: Shocker lizards have a +4 racial bonus on Hide checks due to their coloration. Shocker lizards have a +2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks.
Shocker lizards use their Dexterity modifier instead of their Strength modifier for Climb and Jump checks.
A shocker lizard has a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on a Climb check, even if rushed or threatened.
A shocker lizard has a +8 racial bonus on any Swim check to perform some special action or avoid a hazard. It can always choose to take 10 on a Swim check, even if distracted or endangered. It can use the run action while swimming, provided it swims in a straight line.
Equipment (2000gp): Bracers of Armor +1, Cloak of Resistance +1, 0gp remaining
there is one important roll missing for 4e - Erais gets a d20 roll to end the effect of On Pain of Death. Every save ends effect is rolled on the turn of the one being affected. this will be especially important for things like eyebite...
rematch with different chars? ;)
Thanks; I thought a save was an action you had to take, not 1, +1 if you take the action. Still, it's academic this time, as Erais is on -5 and took 4 damage from the secondary effect. I'll be willing to run the next match as well.
@MWB: I'm still wanting to run my normal 3.5 fight in addition to this. Could I be put back on active pitlord duty? And do you really want two PMs because of a 1-week issue?
and next fight then - riardon f1 vs. tira fight 2 *g*
ok, corrin on fight 2 vs. tira on fight 1.
and next fight then - riardon f1 vs. tira fight 2 *g*
Sure, why not? Callix still want to pitlord?
Sure, why not? Callix still want to pitlord?
Yep. That last one barely whetted my whistle. 3 rounds? Get serious!
Yep. That last one barely whetted my whistle. 3 rounds? Get serious!
well. l1 play is a bit like lvl 1 play in 3.5 - you go down quickly if one exhausts all his daily power for that encounter.
the upside: you are not as easily dead as you were back then.
i assume we want to stay in the arena or some similar small map?
will be writing my tactics then. ;)
Thanks; I thought a save was an action you had to take, not 1, +1 if you take the action. Still, it's academic this time, as Erais is on -5 and took 4 damage from the secondary effect. I'll be willing to run the next match as well.
@MWB: I'm still wanting to run my normal 3.5 fight in addition to this. Could I be put back on active pitlord duty? And do you really want two PMs because of a 1-week issue?
The procedure for saves is:
1) Erais takes the 1d8 damage.
2) Erais completes the rest of his actions for the round.
3) Erais makes a saving throw to end On Pain of Death; due to his feat he succeeds on a 9.
Making a saving throw is never an action unless you have a power (such as Sacred Flame) that allows someone to make an extra save. Even then, it's part of the power's action, not an action in and of itself.
I'd prefer it if you sent Pitlords a PM every time you want a change in your pitlording status, just because I have to be logged into the Pitlords account to make the changes. If you put it in a thread or my personal PM box, I may not remember to do it the next time I'm in Pitlords.
Maravanna Sheharath
Maravanna Sheharath
Female Elf Cleric
Level 1 - Good
STR 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
CON 14 (+1) [7 pts] [14 base]
DEX 18 (+4) [11 pts] [16 base, +2 racial]
INT 10 (+0) [2 pts] [10 base]
WIS 18 (+4) [11 pts] [16 base, +2 racial]
CHA 09 (-1) [1 pt] [9 base]
Armor Class: 17 [3 armor, 4 Dex]
Fortitude Defense: 12 [2 Con]
Reflex Defense: 14 [4 Dex]
Will Defense: 16 [2 Cleric, 4 Wis]
Initiative: +4 [4 Dex]
Speed: 7 squares [Base 7]
Hit Points: 26 [12 Cleric, 14 Con]
Bloodied: 13 [1/2 max]
Healing Surge HP Healed: 6 [1/4 max]
Healing Surges/Day: 9 [7 cleric, 2 Con]
Basic Attacks
Dagger: +2 vs. AC (+7 thrown), damage 1d4-1 (1d4+4 thrown), range 5/10
[3 prof., -1 Str/+4 Dex]
Longbow: +6 vs. AC, damage 1d10+4, range 20/40, load free
[2 prof., -1 Str/+4 Dex]
Feats
Warrior of the Wild (Ranger multiclass: Nature training, Hunter's Quarry 1/encounter)
Skills
Passive Insight: 19
Passive Perception: 16
Acrobatics: +4 [+4 Dex]
Athletics: -1 [-1 Str]
Arcana: +5 [+0 Int, +5 Trained]
Heal: +9 [+4 Wis, +5 Trained]
Insight: +9 [+4 Wis, +5 Trained]
Nature: +11 [+4 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained (Warrior of the Wild)]
Perception: +6 [+4 Wis, +2 racial]
Religion: +5 [+0 Int, +5 Trained]
Prayers (Divine Powers)
Lance of Faith
At-Will - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 5
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d8+4 damage, and one ally you can see gains a +2 power bonus to his or her next attack roll against the target.
Sacred Flame
At-Will - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 5
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d6+4 damage, and one ally you can see makes an immediate saving throw.
Cause Fear
Encounter - Divine, Fear, Implement
Standard Action - Ranged 10
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Will
Hit: The target moves its speed + 2 squares away from you. The fleeing target avoids unsafe squares and difficult terrain if it can. This movement provokes opportunity attacks.
Channel Divinity: Divine Fortune
Encounter - Divine (Special: You can use only one Channel Divinity power per encounter.)
Free Action - Personal
Effect: You gain a +1 bonus to your next attack roll or saving throw before the end of your next turn.
Channel Divinity: Turn Undead
Encounter - Divine, Implement, Radiant (Special: You can use only one Channel Divinity power per encounter.)
Standard Action - Close burst 2
Target: Each undead creature in burst
Attack: Wis vs. Will
Hit: 1d10+4 radiant damage, and you push the target 5 squares. The target is immobilized until the end of your next turn.
Miss: Half damage, and the target is not pushed or immobilized.
Elven Accuracy
Encounter
Free action - Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Healing Word
Encounter - Divine, Healing (Special: You can use this power twice per encounter, but only once per round.)
Minor Action - Close burst 5
Target: You or one ally in burst
Effect: The target can spend a healing surge and regain an additional 1d6+4 hit points.
Hunter's Quarry
Encounter
Minor action - Ranged sight
Target: Closest enemy
Effect: The designated creature takes an additional 1d6 damage from one of your attacks per round. Remains active until quarry is defeated or encounter ends.
Cascade of Light
Daily - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 10
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Will
Hit: 3d8 + Wis radiant damage, and the target gains vulnerability 5 to all your attacks (save ends).
Miss: Half damage, and the target gains no vulnerability.
Other class and racial features
Elven Weapon Training: You gain proficiency with the longbow and the shortbow.
Wild Step: You ignore difficult terrain when you shift (even if you have a power that allows you to shift multiple squares).
Group Awareness: You grant non-elf allies within 5 squares a +1 racial bonus to Perception checks.
Ritual Casting
Equipment: Hide armor, dagger, longbow, quiver filled with arrows, holy symbol, adventuring gear.
Female Elf Cleric
Level 1 - Good
STR 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
CON 14 (+1) [7 pts] [14 base]
DEX 18 (+4) [11 pts] [16 base, +2 racial]
INT 10 (+0) [2 pts] [10 base]
WIS 18 (+4) [11 pts] [16 base, +2 racial]
CHA 09 (-1) [1 pt] [9 base]
Armor Class: 17 [3 armor, 4 Dex]
Fortitude Defense: 12 [2 Con]
Reflex Defense: 14 [4 Dex]
Will Defense: 16 [2 Cleric, 4 Wis]
Initiative: +4 [4 Dex]
Speed: 7 squares [Base 7]
Hit Points: 26 [12 Cleric, 14 Con]
Bloodied: 13 [1/2 max]
Healing Surge HP Healed: 6 [1/4 max]
Healing Surges/Day: 9 [7 cleric, 2 Con]
Basic Attacks
Dagger: +2 vs. AC (+7 thrown), damage 1d4-1 (1d4+4 thrown), range 5/10
[3 prof., -1 Str/+4 Dex]
Longbow: +6 vs. AC, damage 1d10+4, range 20/40, load free
[2 prof., -1 Str/+4 Dex]
Feats
Warrior of the Wild (Ranger multiclass: Nature training, Hunter's Quarry 1/encounter)
Skills
Passive Insight: 19
Passive Perception: 16
Acrobatics: +4 [+4 Dex]
Athletics: -1 [-1 Str]
Arcana: +5 [+0 Int, +5 Trained]
Heal: +9 [+4 Wis, +5 Trained]
Insight: +9 [+4 Wis, +5 Trained]
Nature: +11 [+4 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained (Warrior of the Wild)]
Perception: +6 [+4 Wis, +2 racial]
Religion: +5 [+0 Int, +5 Trained]
Prayers (Divine Powers)
Lance of Faith
At-Will - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 5
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d8+4 damage, and one ally you can see gains a +2 power bonus to his or her next attack roll against the target.
Sacred Flame
At-Will - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 5
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d6+4 damage, and one ally you can see makes an immediate saving throw.
Cause Fear
Encounter - Divine, Fear, Implement
Standard Action - Ranged 10
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Will
Hit: The target moves its speed + 2 squares away from you. The fleeing target avoids unsafe squares and difficult terrain if it can. This movement provokes opportunity attacks.
Channel Divinity: Divine Fortune
Encounter - Divine (Special: You can use only one Channel Divinity power per encounter.)
Free Action - Personal
Effect: You gain a +1 bonus to your next attack roll or saving throw before the end of your next turn.
Channel Divinity: Turn Undead
Encounter - Divine, Implement, Radiant (Special: You can use only one Channel Divinity power per encounter.)
Standard Action - Close burst 2
Target: Each undead creature in burst
Attack: Wis vs. Will
Hit: 1d10+4 radiant damage, and you push the target 5 squares. The target is immobilized until the end of your next turn.
Miss: Half damage, and the target is not pushed or immobilized.
Elven Accuracy
Encounter
Free action - Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Healing Word
Encounter - Divine, Healing (Special: You can use this power twice per encounter, but only once per round.)
Minor Action - Close burst 5
Target: You or one ally in burst
Effect: The target can spend a healing surge and regain an additional 1d6+4 hit points.
Hunter's Quarry
Encounter
Minor action - Ranged sight
Target: Closest enemy
Effect: The designated creature takes an additional 1d6 damage from one of your attacks per round. Remains active until quarry is defeated or encounter ends.
Cascade of Light
Daily - Divine, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action - Ranged 10
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +4 vs. Will
Hit: 3d8 + Wis radiant damage, and the target gains vulnerability 5 to all your attacks (save ends).
Miss: Half damage, and the target gains no vulnerability.
Other class and racial features
Elven Weapon Training: You gain proficiency with the longbow and the shortbow.
Wild Step: You ignore difficult terrain when you shift (even if you have a power that allows you to shift multiple squares).
Group Awareness: You grant non-elf allies within 5 squares a +1 racial bonus to Perception checks.
Ritual Casting
Equipment: Hide armor, dagger, longbow, quiver filled with arrows, holy symbol, adventuring gear.
Kage
Kage
Male Elf Ranger
Level 1 - Good
STR 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
CON 14 (+2) [7 pts] [14 base]
DEX 20 (+5) [18 pts] [18 base, +2 racial]
INT 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
WIS 16 (+3) [7 pts] [14 base, +2 racial]
CHA 08 (-1) [0 pt] [8 base]
Armor Class: 18 [3 armor, 5 Dex]
Fortitude Defense: 13 [1 Ranger, 2 Con]
Reflex Defense: 16 [1 Ranger, 5 Dex]
Will Defense: 13 [3 Wis]
Initiative: +5 [5 Dex]
Speed: 7 squares [Base 7]
Hit Points: 26 [12 Ranger, 14 Con]
Bloodied: 13 [1/2 max]
Healing Surge HP Healed: 6 [1/4 max]
Healing Surges/Day: 8 [6 cleric, 2 Con]
Basic Attacks
Short Sword: +2 vs. AC, damage 1d6-1
[3 prof., -1 Str]
Longbow: +8 vs. AC, damage 1d10+5, range 20/40, load free
[2 prof., +5 Dex, +1 Feat]
Feats
Lethal Hunter (Ranger Bonus)
Weapon Focus [+1 Attack with Longbow???] (Lvl 1)
Skills
Passive Insight: 13
Passive Perception: 20
Acrobatics: +10 [+5 Dex, +5 Trained]
Athletics: -1 [-1 Str]
Healing: +8 [+3 Wis, +5 Trained]
Insight: +3 [+3 Wis,]
Nature: +10 [+3 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained]
Perception: +10 [+3 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained]
Stealth: +10 [+5 Dex, +5 Trained]
Exploits (Martial Powers)
Careful Attack
At-Will * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged 20/40
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +12 vs AC
Hit: 1d10 damage
Nimble Strike
At-Will * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged 20/40
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +8 vs AC
Hit: 1d10+5
Special: Shift 1 square before or after you attack
Fox's Cunning
Encounter * Martial, Weapon
Immediate Reaction - Melee or Ranged 20/40
Trigger: An enemy makes a melee attack against you
Attack: You can shift 1 square, then make a basic attack against the enemy
Special: Gain a +2 power bonus to your basic attack roll
Split the Tree
Daily * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged Weapon 20/40
Targets: Two creatures within 3 squares of each other
Attack: +8 vs AC. Mke two attack rolls, take the better results, and apply it to both targetes.
Hit: 2d10+5
Hunter's Quarry
At Will * Martial, Weapon
Minor action - Weapon
Target: Nearest single enemy
Effect: The designated creature takes an additional 1d6 damage from one of your attacks per round. Remains active until quarry is defeated or encounter ends or you switch your quarry; only 1 quarry at a time).
Elven Accuracy
Encounter
Free action - Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Other class and racial features
Prime Sot: If none of your allies are nearer to your target than you are, gain +1 to ranged attacks against the target.
Elven Weapon Training: You gain proficiency with the longbow and the shortbow.
Wild Step: You ignore difficult terrain when you shift (even if you have a power that allows you to shift multiple squares).
Group Awareness: You grant non-elf allies within 5 squares a +1 racial bonus to Perception checks.
Equipment: Hide armor, shortsword, longbow, quiver filled with arrows, adventuring gear.
Male Elf Ranger
Level 1 - Good
STR 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
CON 14 (+2) [7 pts] [14 base]
DEX 20 (+5) [18 pts] [18 base, +2 racial]
INT 08 (-1) [0 pts] [8 base]
WIS 16 (+3) [7 pts] [14 base, +2 racial]
CHA 08 (-1) [0 pt] [8 base]
Armor Class: 18 [3 armor, 5 Dex]
Fortitude Defense: 13 [1 Ranger, 2 Con]
Reflex Defense: 16 [1 Ranger, 5 Dex]
Will Defense: 13 [3 Wis]
Initiative: +5 [5 Dex]
Speed: 7 squares [Base 7]
Hit Points: 26 [12 Ranger, 14 Con]
Bloodied: 13 [1/2 max]
Healing Surge HP Healed: 6 [1/4 max]
Healing Surges/Day: 8 [6 cleric, 2 Con]
Basic Attacks
Short Sword: +2 vs. AC, damage 1d6-1
[3 prof., -1 Str]
Longbow: +8 vs. AC, damage 1d10+5, range 20/40, load free
[2 prof., +5 Dex, +1 Feat]
Feats
Lethal Hunter (Ranger Bonus)
Weapon Focus [+1 Attack with Longbow???] (Lvl 1)
Skills
Passive Insight: 13
Passive Perception: 20
Acrobatics: +10 [+5 Dex, +5 Trained]
Athletics: -1 [-1 Str]
Healing: +8 [+3 Wis, +5 Trained]
Insight: +3 [+3 Wis,]
Nature: +10 [+3 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained]
Perception: +10 [+3 Wis, +2 racial, +5 Trained]
Stealth: +10 [+5 Dex, +5 Trained]
Exploits (Martial Powers)
Careful Attack
At-Will * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged 20/40
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +12 vs AC
Hit: 1d10 damage
Nimble Strike
At-Will * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged 20/40
Target: 1 creature
Attack: +8 vs AC
Hit: 1d10+5
Special: Shift 1 square before or after you attack
Fox's Cunning
Encounter * Martial, Weapon
Immediate Reaction - Melee or Ranged 20/40
Trigger: An enemy makes a melee attack against you
Attack: You can shift 1 square, then make a basic attack against the enemy
Special: Gain a +2 power bonus to your basic attack roll
Split the Tree
Daily * Martial, Weapon
Standard Action - Ranged Weapon 20/40
Targets: Two creatures within 3 squares of each other
Attack: +8 vs AC. Mke two attack rolls, take the better results, and apply it to both targetes.
Hit: 2d10+5
Hunter's Quarry
At Will * Martial, Weapon
Minor action - Weapon
Target: Nearest single enemy
Effect: The designated creature takes an additional 1d6 damage from one of your attacks per round. Remains active until quarry is defeated or encounter ends or you switch your quarry; only 1 quarry at a time).
Elven Accuracy
Encounter
Free action - Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Other class and racial features
Prime Sot: If none of your allies are nearer to your target than you are, gain +1 to ranged attacks against the target.
Elven Weapon Training: You gain proficiency with the longbow and the shortbow.
Wild Step: You ignore difficult terrain when you shift (even if you have a power that allows you to shift multiple squares).
Group Awareness: You grant non-elf allies within 5 squares a +1 racial bonus to Perception checks.
Equipment: Hide armor, shortsword, longbow, quiver filled with arrows, adventuring gear.
Corrin (Week 2) vs Tira
Tira’s Tactics
First off, thanks for pitlording another playtest fight.
Tira will begin in the center of the front of her box, with wand in hand.
Notes
Whenever not threatened, move three squares away from Corrin (after Eyebite), in order to benefit from Shadow Walk.
Tira has Prime Shot and no allies, so she gets a +1 to all ranged attack rolls.
Whenever threatened, shift away before attacking.
As soon as I can, place Warlock's Curse on Corrin.
I am unaware of any official ruling on readying. Feel free to inquire about it once you have tactics from both of us, since it'll matter if I'm usually invisible and having concealment.
Eyebite does not have a "(save ends)" entry.
Move out immediately, looking for Corrin. As soon as I spot him, place Warlock's Curse on him and then, if possible, Eyebite. Just keep spamming Eyebite, with movement as mentioned in Notes.
That should do it. Since he doesn't have his daily power available and my at-will powers look like a tough thing for him to deal with, I can save my daily power for somebody with a daily power.
Salrantol
Tira will begin in the center of the front of her box, with wand in hand.
Notes
Whenever not threatened, move three squares away from Corrin (after Eyebite), in order to benefit from Shadow Walk.
Tira has Prime Shot and no allies, so she gets a +1 to all ranged attack rolls.
Whenever threatened, shift away before attacking.
As soon as I can, place Warlock's Curse on Corrin.
I am unaware of any official ruling on readying. Feel free to inquire about it once you have tactics from both of us, since it'll matter if I'm usually invisible and having concealment.
Eyebite does not have a "(save ends)" entry.
Move out immediately, looking for Corrin. As soon as I spot him, place Warlock's Curse on him and then, if possible, Eyebite. Just keep spamming Eyebite, with movement as mentioned in Notes.
That should do it. Since he doesn't have his daily power available and my at-will powers look like a tough thing for him to deal with, I can save my daily power for somebody with a daily power.
Salrantol
a) diagonals take only 1 square of movement in 4e, and i specified to run (makes 14 squares in a double move or 12 for move+charge)
b) corrin should still do lay on hands if below 20, even if he can't see her.
c) tira has combat advantage(+2) against corrin when he cannot see her.
d) i don't believe prime shot should work without allies, but this might be just me.
e) note if the fight goes further: as rumor has it, concealment only gives +2 to all defenses
mistakes:
a) diagonals take only 1 square of movement in 4e, and i specified to run (makes 14 squares in a double move or 12 for move+charge)
b) corrin should still do lay on hands if below 20, even if he can't see her.
c) tira has combat advantage(+2) against corrin when he cannot see her.
d) i don't believe prime shot should work without allies, but this might be just me.
e) note if the fight goes further: as rumor has it, concealment only gives +2 to all defenses
A, B fixed. Result changed. C is not true; the invisibility lasts only until the start of Tira's turn. D is contentious; one could equally argue that Shielding Smite shouldn't work on the Paladin himself. I think we're going to have to wait for the books on that one. E turned out to be irrelevant.
Also, the dice *really* turned on Tira.
=> the result should be changed back again.
i believe if there is any power like eyebite still in the final 4e game, it will have to be houseruled in coco.
Prime Shot does work (if you have no allies, none are closer than you), but Shielding Smite does not (in 4e, you are not considered your own ally). Not that Shielding Smite mattered here, because Tira never attacked AC.
I'm not entirely sure about readying either--you could definitely get one shot in as Tira becomes visible (even a charge), but I think that might give her 2 attacks for every 1 of yours. Readying rules are definitely different now (they don't interrupt).
Eyebite isn't so bad--it deals 1d6+Cha damage, not 2d6+Cha. And with 2-player teams it will be greatly mitigated.
usually, it's 1d6+cha+1d6(curse)
even for 2on2 i can see a paladin/warlock combo right now... mark the targets that want to attack the warlock, so they take damage if they take out what strategically should be taken out first, and then if it goes down to 1on1 warlock spams eyebites for the win.
readied actions were not in the rules preview the quick rules primer or any other thus far published informations. so we basically can only guess, like with concealment and some other options...
The paladin/warlock combo has been strongly considered. Worse is a single multiclass warlock/paladin--fortunately there doesn't seem to be any way to get both Eyebite and Divine Challenge on the same character at better than 1/encounter before level 11, but it's still icky, especially for us where there aren't many opponents.
Tira’s and Erais’ Tactics
First off, thanks for pitlording!
Notes:
Tira will use Warlock's Curse on each opponent as she is able. Note that it does not state that she can only have one up.
Whenever threatened, Tira will shift away before using a ranged power.
The first time he lands a power that deals radiant damage, Erais will use Power of Amaunator.
Both will begin in front of their starting box, as far away from each other as possible. Erais will be holding his hammer, Tira her dagger.
Erais will rush his opponents to try to get into melee with Riardon. Tira will try to get just in range 10 to use her powers.
When they are encountered, Tira will hit Riardon with Curse of the Dark Dream, and sustain it until it ends, sliding him closer to Erais. She will then use Witchfire on him, followed (for the rest of the encounter) by Eyebite. Whenever she has used a power, she will move three squares away from both foes (if possible) to activate Shadow Walk. If Corrin attempts to pursue her, she will target him with Eyebite instead and try to avoid him.
Meanwhile, Erais will try to get into melee with Riardon, unless Riardon is wielding his longsword, in which case he will try to stay within range 5. Either way, he will use Lance of Faith if Tira is either uninjured or targetting Riardon, and Sacred Flame otherwise. In either case, the beneficiary of the power will be Tira. If Erais is bloodied, he will use Healing Word on himself, and his Second Wind if he's expended both Healing Words.
If Corrin gets a Divine Challenge on Tira: She will use Eyebite on him, moving 3 squares away after each use as possible.
If Corrin gets a Divine Challenge on Erais: He will use Lance of Faith on him, and Tira will target Corrin on each round she gets the bonus.
Thanks again for pitlording,
Salrantol
Notes:
Tira will use Warlock's Curse on each opponent as she is able. Note that it does not state that she can only have one up.
Whenever threatened, Tira will shift away before using a ranged power.
The first time he lands a power that deals radiant damage, Erais will use Power of Amaunator.
Both will begin in front of their starting box, as far away from each other as possible. Erais will be holding his hammer, Tira her dagger.
Erais will rush his opponents to try to get into melee with Riardon. Tira will try to get just in range 10 to use her powers.
When they are encountered, Tira will hit Riardon with Curse of the Dark Dream, and sustain it until it ends, sliding him closer to Erais. She will then use Witchfire on him, followed (for the rest of the encounter) by Eyebite. Whenever she has used a power, she will move three squares away from both foes (if possible) to activate Shadow Walk. If Corrin attempts to pursue her, she will target him with Eyebite instead and try to avoid him.
Meanwhile, Erais will try to get into melee with Riardon, unless Riardon is wielding his longsword, in which case he will try to stay within range 5. Either way, he will use Lance of Faith if Tira is either uninjured or targetting Riardon, and Sacred Flame otherwise. In either case, the beneficiary of the power will be Tira. If Erais is bloodied, he will use Healing Word on himself, and his Second Wind if he's expended both Healing Words.
If Corrin gets a Divine Challenge on Tira: She will use Eyebite on him, moving 3 squares away after each use as possible.
If Corrin gets a Divine Challenge on Erais: He will use Lance of Faith on him, and Tira will target Corrin on each round she gets the bonus.
Thanks again for pitlording,
Salrantol
rd 3: riardon wanted to use fox's cunning, which could have been another hit. - won't matter though.
seeing this fight, i believe 2pcs played by one player is the way to go for 4e-tactics based fights. 1on1 leaves to many loopholes imo.
how long did it take to run that fight, callix?
we still can see, that lowest level means lots of dice luck. i naturally can't judge if my tactics were just superior, but i don't think so. and i pretty clearly won.
we still can see, that lowest level means lots of dice luck. i naturally can't judge if my tactics were just superior, but i don't think so. and i pretty clearly won.
This is liable to be true at all levels. One of 4e's rallying points is that the math remains more or less the same throughout, and this was the one factor that was playtested to death. Furthermore, it's been observed that, like many video games, PCs have fewer hit points but deal more damage than monsters, so while a PC vs. monster fight is going to be a reasonable length, a PC vs. PC fight will be very short (and a monster vs. monster fight very long).
As you can see, a PC can easily be dropped in 3-4 hits, which can happen in 2 rounds in a 2 on 2 fight. In this fight, Riardon actually got fairly low damage, and Corrin is a poor damage-dealer. Two strikers could probably take down an opponent in one round fairly reliably. So yeah, the dice will be a big factor.
hmm, nice. action point tactics worked out just fine.
rd 3: riardon wanted to use fox's cunning, which could have been another hit. - won't matter though.
seeing this fight, i believe 2pcs played by one player is the way to go for 4e-tactics based fights. 1on1 leaves to many loopholes imo.
how long did it take to run that fight, callix?
we still can see, that lowest level means lots of dice luck. i naturally can't judge if my tactics were just superior, but i don't think so. and i pretty clearly won.
The fight went fairly quickly; probaoly only about an hour. You know how it is when you get into the flow of a fight...
On the Fox's Cunning, you need to be hit by a melee attack, and Riardon never was.
And yes, the dice seemed to be a fairly big factor. Although the 40-square range was a bigger one.
On the Fox's Cunning, you need to be hit by a melee attack, and Riardon never was.
Actually, it's when "an enemy makes a melee attack against you," whether that attack succeeds or fails.
Any preferences for who you use this week? The character sheets from Keep on the Shadowfell have also been leaked, so those characters are now available; note that, as confirmed by Mike Mearls, the half-elf is missing a racial feature (one at-will power from another class, usable as an encounter power). The prerelease compilation is also pretty robust at this point if you want to dabble in character creation.
@Callix: if these are only taking you an hour, how do you feel about taking more than one? Or mediating a play-by-post fight, similarly to the recent Samuel/Longshot fight?
Actually, it's when "an enemy makes a melee attack against you," whether that attack succeeds or fails.
@Callix: if these are only taking you an hour, how do you feel about taking more than one? Or mediating a play-by-post fight, similarly to the recent Samuel/Longshot fight?
I'd really rather not; I'm short of time and end of semester is approaching. I'm happy to keep doing these, but with normal pitlording taking up a quite variable amount of time, I need to keep other commitments down. Exams and everything. Y'know?
as for my preferred team: corrin/riardon is really nice. but i like anything that is mixed in range and melee. pure melee is bound to make problems, like kathra/corrin. i'd rather not use leaked characters from an adventure, since that likely violates wotc intellectual property. (which is a major/important topic for me)
C&R’s Tactics
Hi Callix, sorry for being on the next day (again) and thanks for pitlording.
Since both could actually heal the other, i'll do my tactics completely random:
find the nearest opponent, corrin bases and marks, riardon quarries.
Riardon will use
-Careful Attacks most of the time
-Split the tree if the two opponents are close enough to each other
-Fox's Cunning in the first time he is hit in combat.
-An action point after Corrin is dead to attack a second time.
Corrin will use
-On Pain of Death if his current target is Arkemna
-Second Chance if he is hit by one of the dailies.
-Holy Strikes
Both will stay away from each other for at least 3 squares, Corrin will be the first to enter the center, and try to don't give cover to the opponents.
Since both could actually heal the other, i'll do my tactics completely random:
find the nearest opponent, corrin bases and marks, riardon quarries.
Riardon will use
-Careful Attacks most of the time
-Split the tree if the two opponents are close enough to each other
-Fox's Cunning in the first time he is hit in combat.
-An action point after Corrin is dead to attack a second time.
Corrin will use
-On Pain of Death if his current target is Arkemna
-Second Chance if he is hit by one of the dailies.
-Holy Strikes
Both will stay away from each other for at least 3 squares, Corrin will be the first to enter the center, and try to don't give cover to the opponents.
but there are things that still hold true, even for 4e:
- the sewer is difficult terrarin
- shifting in difficult terrain is not possible.
- i believe you still cannot charge in difficult terrain
@mwb: the playtests in our terrain maps might be nice, but without actual terrain features to see for 4e, are pretty useless...
I agree that the special maps are of limited use, but I wanted to try maps that aren't totally wide open like the arena. The default assumption in 4e is fairly close quarters, and I think we should have a mind to that. In our 3e games, mobility rules, but many features in 4e only work properly when mobility is somewhat limited--defenders, fewer speed-enhancers, very heavily melee-only characters.
can't argue with dice, can you? (i'd argue some things, especially movement of riardon in a normal fight, but its not important...)
but there are things that still hold true, even for 4e:
- the sewer is difficult terrarin
- shifting in difficult terrain is not possible.
- i believe you still cannot charge in difficult terrain
@mwb: the playtests in our terrain maps might be nice, but without actual terrain features to see for 4e, are pretty useless...
I don't believe anyone actually shifts while threatened; think of it as moving slowly.
I let the charge happen because it seemed so contrary to what I'd heard of 4e philosophy to let the ranger get away so easily.
Barandor Stronghammer
Barandor Stronghammer
Male Dwarf Cleric of Moradin
Level 1, Lawful Good
Str 12 (+1) [2 pts]
Dex 8 (-1)
Con 16 (+3) [5 pts] [14, +2 racial]
Int 11 (+0) [1 pts]
Wis 18 (+4) [9 pts] [16, +2 racial]
Cha 14 (+2) [5 pts]
Hit Points 28 [12 (base) + 16 (con)]; Bloodied 14
Healing Surge (hp healed/per day): 7hp / 10/day [7 (cleric) + 3 (con)]
Second Wind: 7hp + 2 to all defenses until next action [Use as a Minor Action]
Armor Class 16 [10 + 0 (level) + 6 (Armor) +[0 (Int/Dex) in light armor]]
Fortitude Defense 13 [10 + 0 (level) + 3 (Str/Con)]
Reflex Defense 10 [10 + 0 (level) + 0 (Dex/Int)]
Will Defense 16 [10 + 0 (level) + 4 (Wis/Cha) +2 (cleric)]
Initiative -1
Speed 5 squares
Basic Attacks
Warhammer +3 vs AC [+1 Str, +2 proficiency], 1d10+3 dmg, Versatile [+1 dmg when wielded 2-handed]
Throwing Hammer +3 vs AC [+1 Str, +2 proficiency], 1d6+3 dmg, Range 5/10, Heavy Thrown, Off-hand
Feats
Dwarven Weapon Training [1st]
Ritual Casting [Cleric bonus]
Skills
+6 Dungeoneering (+4 Wis, +2 racial)
+4 Endurance (+3 Con, +2 racial, -1 ACP)
+9 Heal (+4 Wis, +5 trained)
+5 History (+0 Int, +5 trained)
+9 Insight (+4 Wis, +5 trained) [Passive 19]
+4 Perception (+4 Wis) [Passive 14]
+5 Religion (+0 Int, +5 trained)
Race and Class Features
Dwarf
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Cast-Iron Stomach: +5 to saving throws vs Poison
Dwarven Weapon Proficiency: Proficient with Throwing Hammer and Warhammer
Encumbered Speed: Move at normal speed even when it would normally be reduced by armor or heavy load.
Dwarven Resilience: Use Second Wind as a minor action
Stand your Ground: Move 1 square less when subject to a push, pull or slide; When knocked prone, make an immediate saving throw to stay standing
Cleric
Armor Proficiencies: Cloth, leather, hide, chainmail
Weapon Proficiencies: Simple Melee, Simple Ranged
Implement: Holy Symbol
Healing Lore: When healing with a cleric power with the healing key-word, add wisdom bonus to total healed
Prayers
At-will (2 base)
Sacred Flame (At will, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Ranged 5)
Priest's Shield (At will, Divine, Weapon, Standard)
Encounter (1 base +3 cleric)
Channel Divinity: Divine Fortune (Encounter, Divine, Free Action, Personal)
Channel Divinity: Turn Undead (Encounter, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Close Burst 2):
Healing Word (Encounter (special), Divine, Implement, Healing, Minor Action, Close Burst 5):
Cause Fear (Encounter, Divine, Fear, Implement, Standard, Ranged 10)
Daily (1 base)
Cascade of Light (Daily, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Ranged 10)
Ritual Book: Gentle Repose, Silence
Equipment
Chainmail [40lbs] [40gp]
Warhammer [5lbs] [15gp]
2 Throwing Hammers [4lbs] [10gp]
Holy Symbol [1lbs] [10gp]
Standard Adventurer's Kit [33lbs] [15gp]
Ritual Book [3lbs] [0gp]
10gp left
[86lbs] [90gp]
Barandor Stronghammer
Male Dwarf Cleric of Moradin
Level 1, Lawful Good
Str 12 (+1) [2 pts]
Dex 8 (-1)
Con 16 (+3) [5 pts] [14, +2 racial]
Int 11 (+0) [1 pts]
Wis 18 (+4) [9 pts] [16, +2 racial]
Cha 14 (+2) [5 pts]
Hit Points 28 [12 (base) + 16 (con)]; Bloodied 14
Healing Surge (hp healed/per day): 7hp / 10/day [7 (cleric) + 3 (con)]
Second Wind: 7hp + 2 to all defenses until next action [Use as a Minor Action]
Armor Class 16 [10 + 0 (level) + 6 (Armor) +
Fortitude Defense 13 [10 + 0 (level) + 3 (Str/Con)]
Reflex Defense 10 [10 + 0 (level) + 0 (Dex/Int)]
Will Defense 16 [10 + 0 (level) + 4 (Wis/Cha) +2 (cleric)]
Initiative -1
Speed 5 squares
Basic Attacks
Warhammer +3 vs AC [+1 Str, +2 proficiency], 1d10+3 dmg, Versatile [+1 dmg when wielded 2-handed]
Throwing Hammer +3 vs AC [+1 Str, +2 proficiency], 1d6+3 dmg, Range 5/10, Heavy Thrown, Off-hand
Feats
Dwarven Weapon Training [1st]
Ritual Casting [Cleric bonus]
Skills
+6 Dungeoneering (+4 Wis, +2 racial)
+4 Endurance (+3 Con, +2 racial, -1 ACP)
+9 Heal (+4 Wis, +5 trained)
+5 History (+0 Int, +5 trained)
+9 Insight (+4 Wis, +5 trained) [Passive 19]
+4 Perception (+4 Wis) [Passive 14]
+5 Religion (+0 Int, +5 trained)
Race and Class Features
Dwarf
Vision: Low-light
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Cast-Iron Stomach: +5 to saving throws vs Poison
Dwarven Weapon Proficiency: Proficient with Throwing Hammer and Warhammer
Encumbered Speed: Move at normal speed even when it would normally be reduced by armor or heavy load.
Dwarven Resilience: Use Second Wind as a minor action
Stand your Ground: Move 1 square less when subject to a push, pull or slide; When knocked prone, make an immediate saving throw to stay standing
Cleric
Armor Proficiencies: Cloth, leather, hide, chainmail
Weapon Proficiencies: Simple Melee, Simple Ranged
Implement: Holy Symbol
Healing Lore: When healing with a cleric power with the healing key-word, add wisdom bonus to total healed
Prayers
At-will (2 base)
Sacred Flame (At will, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Ranged 5)
- Target: One Creature
- Attack: +4 [Wis] vs Reflex
- Hit: 1d6+4 [Wis] radiant damage and one ally in sight gains either +2 temporary HP [Cha + 1/2 level] or to make a saving throw
Priest's Shield (At will, Divine, Weapon, Standard)
- Target: One Creature
- Attack: +3 [Str +2 prof] vs AC
- Hit: 1[W] +3 [Str +2 feat] damage and one adjacent ally gains +1 power bonus to AC until the end of your next turn
Encounter (1 base +3 cleric)
Channel Divinity: Divine Fortune (Encounter, Divine, Free Action, Personal)
- Special: Only one channel divinity power can be used once per encounter
- Effect: +1 bonus to next attack roll or saving throw before your next turn
Channel Divinity: Turn Undead (Encounter, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Close Burst 2):
- Special: Only one channel divinity power can be used once per encounter
- Target: Each undead creature in burst
- Attack: +4 [Wis] vs Will
- Hit: 1d10+4 [Wis] radiant damage and you push the target 5 [3 + Cha] squares. The target is immobilized until your next turn
- Miss: Half damage, target is not pushed and not immobilized
Healing Word (Encounter (special), Divine, Implement, Healing, Minor Action, Close Burst 5):
- Special: can be used twice per encounter but only once per round.
- Target: You or one ally
- Effect: Target can spend a healing surge and regain an additional 1d6+4 [Wis] hit points
Cause Fear (Encounter, Divine, Fear, Implement, Standard, Ranged 10)
- Target: One Creature
- Attack: +4 [Wis] vs Will
- Hit: Target moves its speed +2 [Cha] squares away from you. Target can avoid dangerous/hindered squares, but still provokes opportunity attacks
Daily (1 base)
Cascade of Light (Daily, Divine, Implement, Radiant, Standard, Ranged 10)
- Target: One Creature
- Attack: +4 [Wis] vs Will
- Hit: 3d8+4 [Wis] radiant damage and the target gains vulnerability 5 to all your attacks (save ends)
- Miss: Half damage and no vulnerability.
Ritual Book: Gentle Repose, Silence
Equipment
Chainmail [40lbs] [40gp]
Warhammer [5lbs] [15gp]
2 Throwing Hammers [4lbs] [10gp]
Holy Symbol [1lbs] [10gp]
Standard Adventurer's Kit [33lbs] [15gp]
Ritual Book [3lbs] [0gp]
10gp left
[86lbs] [90gp]
actually, yes. your healing surges are 6+ con modifier, so 7, not 8.
fixed.. (was because i originally had 12 con as +2 not +1)
Your fortitude should be 11, I think.
i acually used the 22 point system #8 on the list
16, 16, 12, 10, 10, 10
with the +2 to cha and Dex..
But i may change it around some.. to
18, 13, 13, 10, 10, 8... Since fey pact Improved feat needs 13 int to take.. as well as i like not being dumb
your fortitude defense, not your con score *g*
*mutters* ok it's fixed as well as hps and bloodied.. (i think i need a 6 for int for myself) or i can Just Blame McJarvis like always
Brag
Gender and Race: Male Bugbear
Height and Weight: 6' 11'' 255lb
Age: 18
Alignment: Unaligned
ECL: Rogue 1
Experience: 0/1000
Attributes
STR 18 (+4) [09 pts] [16 Base, +2 racial]
DEX 18 (+4) [09 pts] [16 Base, +2 racial]
CON 12 (+2) [02 pts] [12 Base]
INT 08 (-1) [00 pts] [08 Base]
WIS 10 (+0) [00 pts] [10 Base]
CHA 12 (+1) [02 pts] [12 Base]
Miscellaneous Statistics
Hit Points: 24[1 HD] [12(rogue 1) + 12(Con)]
Healing Surges: 7/day
Armor Class: 16[10 Base, +4 Dex, +2 Armor]
Fortitude Defense: 14[10 Base, +4 Str]
Reflex Defense: 16[10 Base, +4 Dex, +2 Rogue]
Will Defense: 11[10 Base, +1 Cha]
Initiative: +4
Speed (Land): 6 squares
Attacks:
Basic Attack:
Attack: +8 [+4 Str, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str]
Piercing Strike[At-Will]:
Attack: +8 vs Reflex [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex]
Riposte Strike[At-Will]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex],
If the target attacks you before the start of your next turn, you make your riposte against the target as an immediate interrupt:
Riposte Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Str, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Riposte Hit: 1d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str]
Torturous Strike[Encounter]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Damage: 2d6+8[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex, +4 Str]
Easy Target[Daily]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 2d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str], Target is slowed and grants combat advantage to you (save ends both).
Miss: Half damage, and the target grants combat advantage to you until the end of your next turn.
Class Features:
First Strike
Rogue Tactics(Brutal Scoundrel)
Rogue Weapon Talent
Sneak Attack(+2d6+4)
Racial Features:
+2 Str, +2 Dex
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Languages: Common, Goblin
Vision: Low-light
Skill Bonuses: +2 Intimidate, +2 Stealth
Oversized: You can use weapons of your size or one size larger than you as if they were your size.
Predatory Eye[Encounter]:
Minor Action
Effect: If you have combat advantage against a target, you deal +1d6 damage on the next attack you make against that target. You must apply this bonus before the end of your next turn.
Feats
Nimble BladeLvl 1 +1 attack with light & heavy blades while having combat advantage
Skills
Acrobatics: +9 [+4 Dex, +5 Training]
Arcana: -1 [-1 Int]
Athletics: +9 [+4 Str, +5 Training]
Bluff: +1 [+1 Cha]
Diplomacy: +1 [+1 Cha]
Dungeoneering: +0 [+0 Wis]
Edurance: +1 [+1 Con]
Heal: +0 [+0 Wis]
History: -1 [-1 Int]
Insight: +0 [+0 Wis]
Intimidate: +8 [+1 Cha, +5 Training, +2 Bugbear]
Nature: +0 [+0 Wis]
Perception: +5 [+0 Wis, +5 Training]
Religion: -1 [-1 Int]
Stealth: +11 [+4 Dex, +5 Training, +2 Bugbear]
Streetwise: +1 [+1 Cha]
Thievery: +9 [+4 Dex, +5 Training]
Equipment Worn and Carried
4x Large Dagger 4gp
Leather Armor 25gp
10x Large Shuriken 2gp
Standard Adventurers Kit 15gp
Thieves’ tools 20gp
Climbers Kit 11gp
23gp
Gender and Race: Male Bugbear
Height and Weight: 6' 11'' 255lb
Age: 18
Alignment: Unaligned
ECL: Rogue 1
Experience: 0/1000
Attributes
STR 18 (+4) [09 pts] [16 Base, +2 racial]
DEX 18 (+4) [09 pts] [16 Base, +2 racial]
CON 12 (+2) [02 pts] [12 Base]
INT 08 (-1) [00 pts] [08 Base]
WIS 10 (+0) [00 pts] [10 Base]
CHA 12 (+1) [02 pts] [12 Base]
Miscellaneous Statistics
Hit Points: 24[1 HD] [12(rogue 1) + 12(Con)]
Healing Surges: 7/day
Armor Class: 16[10 Base, +4 Dex, +2 Armor]
Fortitude Defense: 14[10 Base, +4 Str]
Reflex Defense: 16[10 Base, +4 Dex, +2 Rogue]
Will Defense: 11[10 Base, +1 Cha]
Initiative: +4
Speed (Land): 6 squares
Attacks:
Basic Attack:
Attack: +8 [+4 Str, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str]
Piercing Strike[At-Will]:
Attack: +8 vs Reflex [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex]
Riposte Strike[At-Will]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 1d6+4[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex],
If the target attacks you before the start of your next turn, you make your riposte against the target as an immediate interrupt:
Riposte Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Str, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Riposte Hit: 1d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str]
Torturous Strike[Encounter]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Damage: 2d6+8[d6 large dagger, +4 Dex, +4 Str]
Easy Target[Daily]:
Attack: +8 vs AC [+4 Dex, +3 Prof, +1 Rogue]
Hit: 2d6+4 [d6 large dagger, +4 Str], Target is slowed and grants combat advantage to you (save ends both).
Miss: Half damage, and the target grants combat advantage to you until the end of your next turn.
Class Features:
First Strike
Rogue Tactics(Brutal Scoundrel)
Rogue Weapon Talent
Sneak Attack(+2d6+4)
Racial Features:
+2 Str, +2 Dex
Size: Medium
Speed: 6 squares
Languages: Common, Goblin
Vision: Low-light
Skill Bonuses: +2 Intimidate, +2 Stealth
Oversized: You can use weapons of your size or one size larger than you as if they were your size.
Predatory Eye[Encounter]:
Minor Action
Effect: If you have combat advantage against a target, you deal +1d6 damage on the next attack you make against that target. You must apply this bonus before the end of your next turn.
Feats
Nimble BladeLvl 1 +1 attack with light & heavy blades while having combat advantage
Skills
Acrobatics: +9 [+4 Dex, +5 Training]
Arcana: -1 [-1 Int]
Athletics: +9 [+4 Str, +5 Training]
Bluff: +1 [+1 Cha]
Diplomacy: +1 [+1 Cha]
Dungeoneering: +0 [+0 Wis]
Edurance: +1 [+1 Con]
Heal: +0 [+0 Wis]
History: -1 [-1 Int]
Insight: +0 [+0 Wis]
Intimidate: +8 [+1 Cha, +5 Training, +2 Bugbear]
Nature: +0 [+0 Wis]
Perception: +5 [+0 Wis, +5 Training]
Religion: -1 [-1 Int]
Stealth: +11 [+4 Dex, +5 Training, +2 Bugbear]
Streetwise: +1 [+1 Cha]
Thievery: +9 [+4 Dex, +5 Training]
Equipment Worn and Carried
4x Large Dagger 4gp
Leather Armor 25gp
10x Large Shuriken 2gp
Standard Adventurers Kit 15gp
Thieves’ tools 20gp
Climbers Kit 11gp
23gp
My first team is ready for playtest fights. Anyone interested?
So we doing teams or individual characters?
How about the cavern map?
And if you are amenable - how about we run three consecutive fights - four if we're up to it?
well, so basically you're saying forced movement is defined as push, pull or slide, and nothing else. i don't see this anywhere written down in the phb, so what about applying some common sense instead of interpreting a definition that's not in there?
forced movement is everything that is not done voluntarily. so a forced teleportation is still, well, forced.
P. 285: "Whether you’re pulling, pushing, or sliding a target, certain rules govern all forced movement." So forced movement = push, pull, or slide. Besides, some of the rules under "forced movement" (which, BTW, is under the "Push, Pull, and Slide" heading) make no sense when applied to involuntary teleportation.
well, so basically you're saying forced movement is defined as push, pull or slide, and nothing else. i don't see this anywhere written down in the phb, so what about applying some common sense instead of interpreting a definition that's not in there?
forced movement is everything that is not done voluntarily. so a forced teleportation is still, well, forced.
Actually, I was wrong about swaps, those are defined in the forced movement section as a slide and a shift, and thus are affected by the force movement rules.
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summary: i feel like hamsters and microwaves are only the top of the ice....
You and me both. Hmm... does this mean I should start up new Courtroom of (winning poll name here)/Council of (winning poll name here) threads if I'm already trying to get powers clarified or reigned in that I think are poorly defined/balanced?
"push pull and slide are all forced movement", the contrary is not necessarily true.
compare it to this statement:
whether it's a rat, a cat or a dog, certain features are true for all mammals.
and @joe: no, spatha has not really won yet.
@mwb: while this holds true for the statement
"push pull and slide are all forced movement", the contrary is not necessarily true.
compare it to this statement:
whether it's a rat, a cat or a dog, certain features are true for all mammals.
and @joe: no, spatha has not really won yet.
True, but the fact that "forced movement" is a subset of the Push/Pull/Slide rules means the exact opposite.
True, but the fact that "forced movement" is a subset of the Push/Pull/Slide rules means the exact opposite.
its a subchapter, yes but: why make a difference without saying that forced movement consists out of those 3?
it's not like every chapter and rule in the dmg and phb is at the right place. the severity of a fall you can find under forced movement in the dmg, and the hitpoints of objects under the heading of dungeon walls.
also, finding things like conditions is hard with them being under attack results...
and @joe: no, spatha has not really won yet.
Nope but i am Campaining for it...And not just cause i want a Warrior to yell before a Battle "I AM SPATHA"
Amavelle Sheharath
Amavelle Sheharath
Female Elf Fighter / Medium Fey Humanoid - Good
Hit Points....32......Bloodied...16
Healing Surge..8......Surges/day..10
Initiative....+4......Speed.......7
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....15......14......12
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+7(greatsword)..Damage: 1d10+3
(+0 level, +3 Str, +1 class, +3 prof, +0 enh)
Ranged Basic..+6(longbow).....Damage: 1d10+4...Range 20/40
(+0 level, +4 Dex, +2 prof, +0 enh)
+2 attack on OAs
At-Will Powers:
Reaping Strike
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+3 damage.
Miss: 3 damage.
Cleave
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+3 damage, and another adjacent enemy takes 3 damage.
Encounter Powers:
Steel Serpent Strike
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 2d10+3 damage, and target is slowed and cannot shift until end of next turn.
Elven Accuracy
Free Action....Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Daily Power:
Villain's Menace
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 2d10+3 damage, and gain +2 attack/+4 damage against target for rest of encounter.
Miss: Gain +1 attack/+2 damage against target for rest of encounter.
Ability Scores
Ability....Check......... Ability....Check
Scores....Modifier....... Scores....Modifier
STR 16.....+3............ CON 12.....+1
DEX 18.....+4............ INT 10.....+0
WIS 14.....+2............ CHA 08.....-1
Feats
Toughness (+5 HP/tier)
Class Features
Combat Challenge (Mark opponent until end of next turn on attack; as an immediate interrupt, make basic attack against marked opponents who shift or attack an ally)
Combat Superiority (+Wis to OAs and stop movement)
Racial Features
Fey Origin
Group Awareness (+1 Perception to non-elf allies within 5)
Wild Step (Shift through difficult terrain)
Low-light vision
Skills
Acrobatics.......+3
Arcana...........+0
Athletics (T)....+7
Bluff............-1
Diplomacy........-1
Dungeoneering....+2
Endurance (T)....+5
Heal (T).........+7
History..........+8
Insight..........+2
Intimidate.......-1
Nature...........+4
Perception.......+4
Religion.........+2
Stealth..........+3
Streetwise.......-1
Thievery.........+3
Equipment:
Hide armor [30 gp][25 lb]
Greatsword [30 gp][8 lb]
Longbow [30 gp][3 lb]
Arrows, 60 [2 gp][6 lb]
Sunrods, 2 [4 gp][2 lb]
Total: 96/100 gp, 44/160 lb
Female Elf Fighter / Medium Fey Humanoid - Good
Hit Points....32......Bloodied...16
Healing Surge..8......Surges/day..10
Initiative....+4......Speed.......7
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....15......14......12
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+7(greatsword)..Damage: 1d10+3
(+0 level, +3 Str, +1 class, +3 prof, +0 enh)
Ranged Basic..+6(longbow).....Damage: 1d10+4...Range 20/40
(+0 level, +4 Dex, +2 prof, +0 enh)
+2 attack on OAs
At-Will Powers:
Reaping Strike
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+3 damage.
Miss: 3 damage.
Cleave
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+3 damage, and another adjacent enemy takes 3 damage.
Encounter Powers:
Steel Serpent Strike
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 2d10+3 damage, and target is slowed and cannot shift until end of next turn.
Elven Accuracy
Free Action....Personal
Effect: Reroll an attack roll. Use the second roll, even if it's lower.
Daily Power:
Villain's Menace
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 2d10+3 damage, and gain +2 attack/+4 damage against target for rest of encounter.
Miss: Gain +1 attack/+2 damage against target for rest of encounter.
Ability Scores
Ability....Check......... Ability....Check
Scores....Modifier....... Scores....Modifier
STR 16.....+3............ CON 12.....+1
DEX 18.....+4............ INT 10.....+0
WIS 14.....+2............ CHA 08.....-1
Feats
Toughness (+5 HP/tier)
Class Features
Combat Challenge (Mark opponent until end of next turn on attack; as an immediate interrupt, make basic attack against marked opponents who shift or attack an ally)
Combat Superiority (+Wis to OAs and stop movement)
Racial Features
Fey Origin
Group Awareness (+1 Perception to non-elf allies within 5)
Wild Step (Shift through difficult terrain)
Low-light vision
Skills
Acrobatics.......+3
Arcana...........+0
Athletics (T)....+7
Bluff............-1
Diplomacy........-1
Dungeoneering....+2
Endurance (T)....+5
Heal (T).........+7
History..........+8
Insight..........+2
Intimidate.......-1
Nature...........+4
Perception.......+4
Religion.........+2
Stealth..........+3
Streetwise.......-1
Thievery.........+3
Equipment:
Hide armor [30 gp][25 lb]
Greatsword [30 gp][8 lb]
Longbow [30 gp][3 lb]
Arrows, 60 [2 gp][6 lb]
Sunrods, 2 [4 gp][2 lb]
Total: 96/100 gp, 44/160 lb
Well, I am busy as well. We don't need to limit ourselves to 1 fight each week so with playtest fights you can challenge more than one opponent with the same characters and even fight multiple fights at the same time.
Said this, I see no problems in waiting if you have an exam or the like. I'll probably be offline the whole weekend and perhaps a few days of the upcoming week. We can stay pitlord free and use the playtest account to roll dices everytime one of us is online.
If you still prefer waiting to have more time, not a problem ;)
I'm happy to start. It might just move a bit slowly.
Grrrntag
Grrrntag
Male Bugbear Ranger
Hit Points....29......Bloodied...14
Healing Surge..7......Surges/day..7
Initiative....+4......Speed.......6
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....15......15......11
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+7(longsword)..Damage: 1d10+5
(+0 level, +4 Str, +3 prof, +0 enh)
Ranged Basic..+6(longbow)....Damage: 1d12+4...Range 20/40
(+0 level, +4 Dex, +2 prof, +0 enh)
At-Will Powers:
Hit and Run
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+5 damage.
Effect: If you move after this attack, the first step does not provoke OA from the target.
Twin Strike
Melee or Ranged weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks, 1 or 2 targets)
Hit: 1d10+1 melee damage/1d12 ranged damage.
Encounter Powers:
Predatory Eye
Minor Action....Personal
Effect: If you have combat advantage, the next attack before end of next turn deals +1d6 damage.
Two-Fanged Strike
Melee or Ranged weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks)
Hit: 1d10+5 melee damage/1d12+4 ranged damage. If both attacks hit, add 1 damage.
Daily Power:
Jaws of the Wolf
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks)
Hit: 2d10+5 damage.
Miss: Half damage.
Ability Scores
Ability....Check......... Ability....Check
Scores....Modifier....... Scores....Modifier
STR 18.....+4............ CON 12.....+1
DEX 18.....+4............ INT 08.....-1
WIS 12.....+1............ CHA 10.....+0
Feats
Toughness (+5 HP/tier)
Weapon Focus: Heavy Blade (+1 damage)
Class Features
Two-Blade Fighting Style (can use 1-hand weapons as off-hand)
Hunter's Quarry (designate nearest enemy as minor, +1d6 damage 1/round)
Prime Shot (if no ally closer to target, +1 to ranged attacks)
Racial Features
Oversized (can use Large weapons)
Low-light vision
Skills
Acrobatics (T)...+8
Arcana...........-1
Athletics (T)....+8
Bluff............+0
Diplomacy........+0
Dungeoneering....+1
Endurance........+1
Heal.............+1
History..........-1
Insight..........+1
Intimidate.......+2
Nature (T).......+6
Perception (T)...+6
Religion.........-1
Stealth (T).....+10
Streetwise.......+0
Thievery.........+3
Equipment:
Hide armor [30 gp][25 lb]
Longsword [15 gp][4 lb]
Longsword [15 gp][4 lb]
Longbow [30 gp][3 lb]
Arrows, 60 [2 gp][6 lb]
Sunrods, 2 [4 gp][2 lb]
Total: 96/100 gp, 44/160 lb
Male Bugbear Ranger
Hit Points....29......Bloodied...14
Healing Surge..7......Surges/day..7
Initiative....+4......Speed.......6
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....15......15......11
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+7(longsword)..Damage: 1d10+5
(+0 level, +4 Str, +3 prof, +0 enh)
Ranged Basic..+6(longbow)....Damage: 1d12+4...Range 20/40
(+0 level, +4 Dex, +2 prof, +0 enh)
At-Will Powers:
Hit and Run
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC
Hit: 1d10+5 damage.
Effect: If you move after this attack, the first step does not provoke OA from the target.
Twin Strike
Melee or Ranged weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks, 1 or 2 targets)
Hit: 1d10+1 melee damage/1d12 ranged damage.
Encounter Powers:
Predatory Eye
Minor Action....Personal
Effect: If you have combat advantage, the next attack before end of next turn deals +1d6 damage.
Two-Fanged Strike
Melee or Ranged weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks)
Hit: 1d10+5 melee damage/1d12+4 ranged damage. If both attacks hit, add 1 damage.
Daily Power:
Jaws of the Wolf
Melee weapon....+7 vs. AC (two attacks)
Hit: 2d10+5 damage.
Miss: Half damage.
Ability Scores
Ability....Check......... Ability....Check
Scores....Modifier....... Scores....Modifier
STR 18.....+4............ CON 12.....+1
DEX 18.....+4............ INT 08.....-1
WIS 12.....+1............ CHA 10.....+0
Feats
Toughness (+5 HP/tier)
Weapon Focus: Heavy Blade (+1 damage)
Class Features
Two-Blade Fighting Style (can use 1-hand weapons as off-hand)
Hunter's Quarry (designate nearest enemy as minor, +1d6 damage 1/round)
Prime Shot (if no ally closer to target, +1 to ranged attacks)
Racial Features
Oversized (can use Large weapons)
Low-light vision
Skills
Acrobatics (T)...+8
Arcana...........-1
Athletics (T)....+8
Bluff............+0
Diplomacy........+0
Dungeoneering....+1
Endurance........+1
Heal.............+1
History..........-1
Insight..........+1
Intimidate.......+2
Nature (T).......+6
Perception (T)...+6
Religion.........-1
Stealth (T).....+10
Streetwise.......+0
Thievery.........+3
Equipment:
Hide armor [30 gp][25 lb]
Longsword [15 gp][4 lb]
Longsword [15 gp][4 lb]
Longbow [30 gp][3 lb]
Arrows, 60 [2 gp][6 lb]
Sunrods, 2 [4 gp][2 lb]
Total: 96/100 gp, 44/160 lb
I'm happy to start. It might just move a bit slowly.
My girlfriend came home a day earlier. I'll open the thread on Monday
Shadow of the Woods
Shadow of the Woods
Male Human Ranger (Archer Ranger)
Hit Points....22......Bloodied...11
Healing Surge..5......Surges/day..6
Initiative....+5......Speed.......6
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....12......17......10
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+2(Handaxe)...Damage: 1d6
Range Basic...+7(Handaxe)...Damage: 1d6 (5-10)
Range Basic...+7(Longbow)..Damage: 1d10 (20-40)
At-Will Powers:
Careful Attack
Ranged Weapon
Hit: Dexterity + 2 vs. AC
Damage 1[W]
Nimble strike
Ranged Weapon
Special:Shift 1 square before or after you attack
Hit: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier damage.
Twin Strike
Range: Melee or ranged
Hit: Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks
Damage: 1[W] damage per attack
Encounter Powers:
Two-Fanged Strike
Ranged weapon
Hit: Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks
Damage: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier damage (ranged)
Special: If both attacks hit, you deal extra damage equal to your Wisdom modifier.
Daily Powers:
Hunter’s Bear Trap
Ranged weapon
Hit:2[W] +Dexterity modifier damage (ranged), and Target is slowed and takes an ongoing 5 damage (save ends both)
Miss: 1/2 damage and is slowed till end of my next turn
Healing Word. Minor Action
close burst 5
Target:self or 1 ally
Effects: Target can spend a Healing surge and regain and extra 1d6 hps
Ability Scores
Ability....Check..........Ability....Che ck
Scores....Modifier........Scores....Modi fier
STR 13.....+1.............INT 10.....+0
CON 10.....+0.............WIS 13.....+1
DEX 20.....+5.............CHA 8.....-1
Feats
Initiate of the Faith [Multiclass Cleric]
Agile Hunter When you score a critical hit with a melee attack against the target of your Hunter’s Quarry, you can shift as a free action, and the enemy takes a –2 penalty on attack rolls against you until the end of your next turn.
Defensive Mobility: You gain a +2 bonus to AC against opportunity attacks.
Class Feature
Archer Fighting Style
Hunter’s Quarry +1d6 damage
prime shot +1 bonus if your the closest to the target
Skills
Acrobatics(T)....10
Arcana ..............0
Athletics.............1
Bluff.................-1
Diplomacy..........-1
Dungeoneering.....1
Endurance(t).......5
Heal ................1
History...............0
Insight...............1
Intimidate..........-1
Nature (T)..........6
Perception(t)......6
Religion .............0
Stealth(t)..........10
Streetwise........-1
Thievery............5
Equipment
Longbow 30 gp 3 lbs
handaxe (4) 20 gp 12 lbs
Leather armor 25 gp 15 lbs
Arrows (30) 1 gp 3 lbs
Sunrods (4) 8 gp 4 lbs
Holy Symbol 10 gp 1 lb
(94 gp spent)
Shadow of the Woods
Male Human Ranger (Archer Ranger)
Hit Points....22......Bloodied...11
Healing Surge..5......Surges/day..6
Initiative....+5......Speed.......6
AC....Fort....Ref.....Will
17.....12......17......10
Attacks:
Melee Basic...+2(Handaxe)...Damage: 1d6
Range Basic...+7(Handaxe)...Damage: 1d6 (5-10)
Range Basic...+7(Longbow)..Damage: 1d10 (20-40)
At-Will Powers:
Careful Attack
Ranged Weapon
Hit: Dexterity + 2 vs. AC
Damage 1[W]
Nimble strike
Ranged Weapon
Special:Shift 1 square before or after you attack
Hit: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier damage.
Twin Strike
Range: Melee or ranged
Hit: Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks
Damage: 1[W] damage per attack
Encounter Powers:
Two-Fanged Strike
Ranged weapon
Hit: Dexterity vs. AC (ranged), two attacks
Damage: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier damage (ranged)
Special: If both attacks hit, you deal extra damage equal to your Wisdom modifier.
Daily Powers:
Hunter’s Bear Trap
Ranged weapon
Hit:2[W] +Dexterity modifier damage (ranged), and Target is slowed and takes an ongoing 5 damage (save ends both)
Miss: 1/2 damage and is slowed till end of my next turn
Healing Word. Minor Action
close burst 5
Target:self or 1 ally
Effects: Target can spend a Healing surge and regain and extra 1d6 hps
Ability Scores
Ability....Check..........Ability....Che ck
Scores....Modifier........Scores....Modi fier
STR 13.....+1.............INT 10.....+0
CON 10.....+0.............WIS 13.....+1
DEX 20.....+5.............CHA 8.....-1
Feats
Initiate of the Faith [Multiclass Cleric]
Agile Hunter When you score a critical hit with a melee attack against the target of your Hunter’s Quarry, you can shift as a free action, and the enemy takes a –2 penalty on attack rolls against you until the end of your next turn.
Defensive Mobility: You gain a +2 bonus to AC against opportunity attacks.
Class Feature
Archer Fighting Style
Hunter’s Quarry +1d6 damage
prime shot +1 bonus if your the closest to the target
Skills
Acrobatics(T)....10
Arcana ..............0
Athletics.............1
Bluff.................-1
Diplomacy..........-1
Dungeoneering.....1
Endurance(t).......5
Heal ................1
History...............0
Insight...............1
Intimidate..........-1
Nature (T)..........6
Perception(t)......6
Religion .............0
Stealth(t)..........10
Streetwise........-1
Thievery............5
Equipment
Longbow 30 gp 3 lbs
handaxe (4) 20 gp 12 lbs
Leather armor 25 gp 15 lbs
Arrows (30) 1 gp 3 lbs
Sunrods (4) 8 gp 4 lbs
Holy Symbol 10 gp 1 lb
(94 gp spent)
I don't know.. i am just tossing stuph out there.. still someone saids something.. keeps my mind active..
Higher lvl PCs should limit the amount of daily powers as well.
If a playtest is going to be a of single fight, the PCs should have either action points or daily powers.
Higher lvl PCs should limit the amount of daily powers as well.
The playtests are more than one fight per day. People are conserving their resources somewhat, though not excessively. We're being careful about this.
I can also do leveled up versions if you want.
Regardless, your call on map. I got my pick against Crazy.
They're only 9-11 posts above this one....
*Slaps self*
I'll take the Savages. Your choice of map.