Also if we make a new toon do we get to keep the items our current toon had if we make a new one because while it would be fun to make a toon myself our party has some pretty useful loot thats saved our skins a few times and losing it probably isn't worth it.
Check the encounters website for updates.
- No divine character classes or options
- No material from the Forgotten Realms® Player's Guide or the Eberron® Player's Guide
- Allowed character races are dragonborn, dwarf, eladrin, elf, half-elf, halfling, human, tiefling (PH1); goliath (PH2); minotaur (PH3); mul, thri-kreen (DSCS)
- Pick a character theme from the Dark Sun Campaign Setting
- Characters start at 3rd level with 620 gold to purchase equipment and receive their choice of a +1 magic weapon, +1 magic implement, +1 magic armor, or a +1 amulet of protection
So I guess a Shaman of Gulg is out? Darn I had that all planned and was about ready to go with it.
Why would a shaman be out?
Here's the exact rules from the email sent out to the Organizers.
- No divine character classes or options
- No material from the Forgotten Realms® Player's Guide or the Eberron® Player's Guide
- Allowed character races are dragonborn, dwarf, eladrin, elf, half-elf, halfling, human, tiefling (PH1); goliath (PH2); minotaur (PH3); mul, thri-kreen (DSCS)
- Pick a character theme from the Dark Sun Campaign Setting
- Characters start at 3rd level with 620 gold to purchase equipment and receive their choice of a +1 magic weapon, +1 magic implement, +1 magic armor, or a +1 amulet of protection
Does the 620 gp limit include the +1 magic item, or is that an extra bonus?Here's the exact rules from the email sent out to the Organizers.
- No divine character classes or options
- No material from the Forgotten Realms® Player's Guide or the Eberron® Player's Guide
- Allowed character races are dragonborn, dwarf, eladrin, elf, half-elf, halfling, human, tiefling (PH1); goliath (PH2); minotaur (PH3); mul, thri-kreen (DSCS)
- Pick a character theme from the Dark Sun Campaign Setting
- Characters start at 3rd level with 620 gold to purchase equipment and receive their choice of a +1 magic weapon, +1 magic implement, +1 magic armor, or a +1 amulet of protection
My read is that you get a +1 magic item AND 620gp to play with.
This is in lieu of the normal such character, according to the DMG. Normally, a level 3 character built like this would possess more. They'd have a 2nd, 3rd and 4th level magic item, and gold equal to a level 2 magic item's value.
They mean Gold Ceramic Bits which technically have the same value as a Gold Piece. But money isn't like standard campaigns where the gold standard rules.
In Dark Sun the Sorcerer kings use Fiat Money. The money is backed by the city state governments.
Uhm, isn't 620g a little bit to much for DS?
Does the 620 gp limit include the +1 magic item, or is that an extra bonus?Here's the exact rules from the email sent out to the Organizers.
- No divine character classes or options
- No material from the Forgotten Realms® Player's Guide or the Eberron® Player's Guide
- Allowed character races are dragonborn, dwarf, eladrin, elf, half-elf, halfling, human, tiefling (PH1); goliath (PH2); minotaur (PH3); mul, thri-kreen (DSCS)
- Pick a character theme from the Dark Sun Campaign Setting
- Characters start at 3rd level with 620 gold to purchase equipment and receive their choice of a +1 magic weapon, +1 magic implement, +1 magic armor, or a +1 amulet of protection
My read is that you get a +1 magic item AND 620gp to play with.
This is in lieu of the normal such character, according to the DMG. Normally, a level 3 character built like this would possess more. They'd have a 2nd, 3rd and 4th level magic item, and gold equal to a level 2 magic item's value.
So does that mean generic +1 Magic staff or could i add a +1 staff of Ruin or something...and should it be a lvl 3 item?
Also after getting that "free" item can I can purchase more magical items using the 620gp or is it just regular gear after that
Can I pass on my stuff that the pregen toon has onto my create character
How can we create a toon from a book that isn't even released yet...except for the "Core" Stores
So does that mean generic +1 Magic staff or could i add a +1 staff of Ruin or something...and should it be a lvl 3 item? Also after getting that "free" item can I can purchase more magical items using the 620gp or is it just regular gear after that Can I pass on my stuff that the pregen toon has onto my create character How can we create a toon from a book that isn't even released yet...except for the "Core" Stores
The former. It actually explicitly lists +1 magic armor, +1 magic weapon, +1 magic implement or +1 amulet of protection by name. So yes, it is JUST the generic such item.
The 620 gp can be spent on whatever equipment you want. It just says "equipment", not "mundane equipment", not "adventuring gear", just "equipment".
Uhm, isn't 620g a little bit to much for DS?
Not at all. A standard 3rd level character would have 2560g in items, total, and free adventuring gear. These characters have 980g and still have to pay for adventuring gear.
Also, does D&DE not use inherent bonuses or something?
Yeah, Encounters is using Inherent Bonuses. The +1 magic weapon is a waste.
That's what I thought. Weird.
Yeah, Encounters is using Inherent Bonuses. The +1 magic weapon is a waste.
Reckless Breakage?
Although, technically, you could gain the benefit of the armor or the neckpiece for exactly 1 level. The weapon and implement appear to be completely useless.
I don't see how Reckless Breakage factors into it at all, except that you can use this free weapon instead of paying for a nonmagical variant.
(All the above assumes that D&DE does, in fact, use inherent bonuses.)
The primary advantages of a +1 magic weapon (and implement for the second advantage below) are:
1) If ranged thrown, it returns automatically.
2) Critical hit bonuses (<---this is the real reason you'd want a magical weapon/implement).
AC, Defense, Attack, and Damage Bonuses: Without magic items, the PCs' attacks, defenses, and damage lag behind. You can solve this problem by giving the PCs flat bonuses as they advance in level. These bonuses stack.
Attack and Damage: All characters gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls at 2nd, 7th, 12th, 17th, 22nd, and 27th level.
Defenses: All PCs gain a +1 bonus to AC, Fortitude, Reflex, and Will at 4th, 9th, 14th, 19th, 24th, and 29th level.
EDIT: OK, never mind, I see it. The Dark Sun book says they don't stack. But the tables are the same. I hadn't looked carefully at the info in the Dark Sun book because I read somewhere online that it was the same as in DMG2.
Where does it say they don't stack? I'm not trying to be argumentative - I'm new to 4e and I'm happy to be proven wrong. But what I see in DMG2 on page 138 is [my emphasis added]:
AC, Defense, Attack, and Damage Bonuses: Without magic items, the PCs' attacks, defenses, and damage lag behind. You can solve this problem by giving the PCs flat bonuses as they advance in level. These bonuses stack.
Attack and Damage: All characters gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls at 2nd, 7th, 12th, 17th, 22nd, and 27th level.
Defenses: All PCs gain a +1 bonus to AC, Fortitude, Reflex, and Will at 4th, 9th, 14th, 19th, 24th, and 29th level.
EDIT: OK, never mind, I see it. The Dark Sun book says they don't stack. But the tables are the same. I hadn't looked carefully at the info in the Dark Sun book because I read somewhere online that it was the same as in DMG2.
Those inherent bonuses stack with each other, so they're cumulative. The higher lvl you are the more bonus you get (obviously)
Where does it say they don't stack? I'm not trying to be argumentative - I'm new to 4e and I'm happy to be proven wrong. But what I see in DMG2 on page 138 is [my emphasis added]:
The character builder lists them as enhancement bonuses if you look at the individual powers. It makes sense for them not to stack; they're supposed to be taking the place of magic item bonuses.
If we dont have the books yet or before the game, how do we select our theme and the powers associated with it?
You don't. Buy the books. That's what monies are for.