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| #1commissarAug 11, 2010 23:20:14 | Had a thought on an alternative spin on some aspects of Dark Sun: there are no gods of Athas but there is a Great Old One. This ancient, fecund being crashed to Athas long ago in a comet once hurtling blindly through the Outer Dark (space!). It bored beneath the surface and created a vast warren of dark tunnels and byways over the millennia (the Underdark). This being, the Mother of Monsters (also called Abhoth or She of the Thousand Young), is a grotesque, seething mass of ichor and protoplasm the size of a small lake. It has spawned many of the monsters that now inhabit Athas (some of its spawn are unique beings or true "monsters", others are the progenitors of whole races that torment the Athasian surface). She of the Thousand Young may have been summoned to Athas by the remants of the Aboleth still slumbering in their black lakes deep below the surface, or she may have spawned them too. The inscrutable Illithid have followed Abhoth to Athas, intending either to harness or destroy it for their trans-temporal schemes (originating from the final era before the Heat Death of the Universe, the time-hopping Illithid have a vast and maniacal scheme to attempt to counteract this cosmic event and so save themselves). Eldritch machines and arcane traps distinguish Illithid strongholds in the darkness below. Cults of the Mother of Monsters (no true clerics, of course, but using sorcery and powers of the mind) secretly plague the surface and even managed to engineer the fall of Kalak. Tyr will soon be rife with the hedonistic fertility cult that ultimately leads to very horrific... liaisons... with the tentacled horrors from beneath. Even the corrupt and evil order of the Sorcerer Kings is opposed by these devotees of absolute chaos, in whose fevered dreams all of Athas is rendered down into a boiling muck of protoplasm. You know, just to make Athas a little harsher. If there is interest, the 3rd party publisher called "Goodman Games" sells a PDF bestiary of Lovecraftian monsters for 4E as part of its "Critter Cache" line. The Shoggoth is a Level 18 Elite Brute; the Greater Shoggoth is a Level 24 Solo Brute and clearly has no sense of boundaries.I think it's also a way to introduce an Underdark to Athas without it being a place that's actually more hospitable than the surface! |
| #2ian.thomsonAug 12, 2010 10:46:14 | I've considered incorporating the Cthulhu Mythos into Dark Sun as well, I like the idea, but I think you're getting Abhoth mixed up with Shub-Niggurath. |
| #3FlashbackJonAug 12, 2010 11:03:33 | The Sea of Silt preview mentions the Dust Kraken, which has a very Cthulhu-esque feel to it, and apparently Marauders of the Dune Sea covers it further. Depending on how that actually turns out, they could prove a good launching point. |
| #4commissarAug 12, 2010 11:51:14 | Ian, I like a lot of your ideas. As I was reading your excellent idea about the Shan, I was thinking Draj, and then I saw that you had the same idea. Of course, given how bent Tectuktitlay is, it is doubtful anyone would notice. Good comment on Tsathoggua, too.
Well, I don't follow "Chaosium Orthodoxy" or anything like that. I'm actually more of a Clark Ashton Smith fan than a Lovecraft fan, and so I borrowed the name... you're right that what I put together is really a combination of Smith's Abhoth and later authors' conceptualizations of Lovecraft's Shub.Abhoth comes from Smith's Hyperborean story entitled "The Seven Geases". It is an absolute hoot and highly recommended. |
| #5tindalosihoundAug 12, 2010 12:11:37 | Getting Abhoth and Shub-Niggurath mixed up is a D&D tradition anyway. It dates back to first edition. |
| #6ian.thomsonAug 12, 2010 12:14:47 | I'm more of an REH fan myself (why the Cthulhu mythos seems appropriate for Athas to me), and then pan-mythos (except Derleth beyond "saying Haster will get you eaten by a Byakhee," and the distinction between the Great Old Ones and Elder Gods, although not the good-vs-evil aspect of that distinction, I prefer more of "local threat-vs-not-so-local-threat" deal). |
| #7lizardmageAug 12, 2010 16:40:29 | I'm sure that Cthulhu can survive without water;). Anyway my thought on it (as I feel the mythos has a place in Dark Sun also), was one of the "abandoned ruins." But I wanted to populate it with Mind Flayers has his new worshipers. |