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[DS3] How to provide feedback

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#1
flip
Jul 16, 2003 22:35:02 Okay, here's the deal.

I'm in the middle of uploading a 16 meg PDF of DS3. I'll post when it's available.

This is not the final version of DS3. The final version will come after we've audited everything for 3.5 compliance and gotten the intro chapter and credits in place.

However, at this point, the rules should be pretty static. Don't expect any major changes.

So, there are three types of feeback I'm looking for:

everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback
3.5 Feedback
Playtesting feedback

Everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback
Feedback on the document itself. Word spacings, random capital letters, grammer corrections and the like. I'm starting up a thread for this, where the first post will explain what format I want that in.

3.5 Feedback
Things will go a lot faster on checking 3.5 compliance if we get some of the checking done in a distrubuted way. Let us know if you catch references to things that no longer exist in 3.5, or notice other incompatabilities.

Playtesting Feedback
This is the meat and potatoes of what we need.

Obviously, this can't exist as a single thread ... there's probably too much, and that'd get way too confusing. However, let's try and keep it somewhat condenced. If you've got a playtesting comment, do the following:

All threads giving playtesting feedback should be titled as "Playtesting: section" (For example, A thread on how overpowered the half giant is would read "Playtesting: Half-Giant" ... a thread on spell feedback should read "Playtesting: Spells"
If you're posting something new, please search first. Keep all half-giant feedback to one thread, keep all Templar feedback to another. It takes a few seconds of effort on your part, but it'll save us an extrodinary amount of effort when we go to review things later.
Sections: Each chapter should get it's own thread, with the exception of Races and Classes. For those two, each Race or Class should get it's own thread.

Simple rules, but please follow them. It'll keep the feedback manageable, and might even help a few of us over here retain sanity (What little we have)

And, the upload has finished. You can find it at http://athas.org/releases/ds3/
Remember, this isn't quite final!
#2
Shei-Nad
Jul 17, 2003 0:05:45
Originally posted by flip
Everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback
Feedback on the document itself. Word spacings, random capital letters, grammer corrections and the like. I'm starting up a thread for this, where the first post will explain what format I want that in.

hihihi... :D

Nice work guys, by the way...
#3
zombiegleemax
Jul 31, 2003 2:30:41 Play test: Spells

Where is the 4th level spell Elemental Burst? Its not in the PHB or the Dark Sun Spells chapter.
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 05, 2003 12:39:47 Cerulean hail lists it as being a fury of storms 5 spell. The domain lists however show it as a cold malice 6 spell.

General note, would there not be at least one domain that offers the fly spell to air clerics?
#5
jon_oracle_of_athas
Aug 05, 2003 13:17:37 This thread is not a feedback thread in itself - it contains information on how to provide feedback in other threads.

Failure to comply will be sanctioned with lightning bolts.
#6
zombiegleemax
Aug 05, 2003 13:24:25 Sorry, I didn't see any other errata thread.
#7
jon_oracle_of_athas
Aug 05, 2003 14:52:33 You might have to dig a little, but they're there. And if you can't find an appropriate one, just start a new one.
#8
player1
Aug 05, 2003 15:23:35 "Sticking" them on top could help. :D
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 15:00:06 pick pocket does no longer exist, it is now called 'slight of hand'.

oops, and the bards conceal (i think thats what its called) ability would just add its bonus to slight of hand, because this ability replaces general dexterity checks.
#10
jon_oracle_of_athas
Sep 13, 2003 17:58:18 Again - This thread is not a feedback thread in itself - it contains information on how to provide feedback in other threads.
#11
dawnstealer
Dec 09, 2003 13:26:33 So should we provide feedback on this thread? I'm confused.

:invasion:
#12
nytcrawlr
Feb 04, 2004 21:59:44 So what are we suppose to post on this thread again? I can't remember.

#13
Markus.l
Apr 16, 2004 2:51:54 Hey Nathan, when will the "Full" [of pictures hopefully] PDF be available? I LOVE that Brom simple black line art that was done years ago...
#14
nytcrawlr
Apr 16, 2004 22:48:01
Originally posted by Markus.l
Hey Nathan, when will the "Full" [of pictures hopefully] PDF be available? I LOVE that Brom simple black line art that was done years ago...

Once all the errata gets done and in there.

A month or two maybe? Don't quote me on that though and be sure to take lots of salt.
#15
flip
Apr 17, 2004 12:51:10 Nyte's the wrong person to ask on that.

It'll be out after we've integrated the XPH stuff, and I get a chance to fix some other things. Plus, manipulating some of the artwork so it 1) looks good 2) doesn't destroy the file sizes is a bit of a task.
#16
Markus.l
Apr 17, 2004 18:26:43
Originally posted by flip
It'll be out after we've integrated the XPH stuff, and I get a chance to fix some other things. Plus, manipulating some of the artwork so it 1) looks good 2) doesn't destroy the file sizes is a bit of a task.

Any estimated time frame you can give? May, June... [gulp]... July...?
#17
zombiegleemax
Apr 26, 2004 21:18:33 Edit: I misunderstood the purpose of this thread ("This is not the feedback thread").
#18
zombiegleemax
Jun 18, 2004 3:51:13 I sent several error and mistake reporting mail to [email]ds3-errata@athas.org[/email] the past days. Up to now i got no answer. Is that normal ?
#19
nytcrawlr
Jun 18, 2004 20:22:20
Originally posted by PogS (FR)
I sent several error and mistake reporting mail to [email]ds3-errata@athas.org[/email] the past days. Up to now i got no answer. Is that normal ?

Yes, heh.

We are busy beavers here lately.

I'm sure your errata was looked at though.
#20
zombiegleemax
Aug 30, 2004 22:05:24

(just kidding)
#21
jon_oracle_of_athas
Oct 30, 2004 7:50:02 Since this is the only Sticky thread we have, I'll post the link to the FAQ on athas.org here. Read the FAQ before you ask questions about athas.org, DS3 or anything that lies between. It's not just recommended, it is a good idea.

http://www.athas.org/faq
#22
polipone
Dec 21, 2004 10:46:29 You should leave the 3.5 conversion last, and upload the final 3.0 "official" conversion before starting converting to 3.5. This way the work will be usable even by those (like myself) who still stick to 3.0. (BTW, I already downloaded a pdf about Athas 3.0, but I suspect it wasn't final)
#23
zombiegleemax
Dec 31, 2004 13:02:17
You should leave the 3.5 conversion last, and upload the final 3.0 "official" conversion before starting converting to 3.5. This way the work will be usable even by those (like myself) who still stick to 3.0. (BTW, I already downloaded a pdf about Athas 3.0, but I suspect it wasn't final)

That and it's easier for those of us that are 3.5 to go 3.0->3.5 then 2.Whatver Version we have materail for -> 3.5
#24
zombiegleemax
Dec 31, 2004 15:20:56 In the interest of getting things out with less time in between items for those of us who stay current, I like the fact that Athas.org releases in the most current versions. For those who play 3.0, you can update your materials without buying new core books by getting the update downloads form the wizards dnd site.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 flip Jul 16, 2003 22:35:02	Okay, here's the deal. I'm in the middle of uploading a 16 meg PDF of DS3. I'll post when it's available. This is not the final version of DS3. The final version will come after we've audited everything for 3.5 compliance and gotten the intro chapter and credits in place. However, at this point, the rules should be pretty static. Don't expect any major changes. So, there are three types of feeback I'm looking for: everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback 3.5 Feedback Playtesting feedback Everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback Feedback on the document itself. Word spacings, random capital letters, grammer corrections and the like. I'm starting up a thread for this, where the first post will explain what format I want that in. 3.5 Feedback Things will go a lot faster on checking 3.5 compliance if we get some of the checking done in a distrubuted way. Let us know if you catch references to things that no longer exist in 3.5, or notice other incompatabilities. Playtesting Feedback This is the meat and potatoes of what we need. Obviously, this can't exist as a single thread ... there's probably too much, and that'd get way too confusing. However, let's try and keep it somewhat condenced. If you've got a playtesting comment, do the following: All threads giving playtesting feedback should be titled as "Playtesting: section" (For example, A thread on how overpowered the half giant is would read "Playtesting: Half-Giant" ... a thread on spell feedback should read "Playtesting: Spells" If you're posting something new, please search first. Keep all half-giant feedback to one thread, keep all Templar feedback to another. It takes a few seconds of effort on your part, but it'll save us an extrodinary amount of effort when we go to review things later. Sections: Each chapter should get it's own thread, with the exception of Races and Classes. For those two, each Race or Class should get it's own thread. Simple rules, but please follow them. It'll keep the feedback manageable, and might even help a few of us over here retain sanity (What little we have) And, the upload has finished. You can find it at http://athas.org/releases/ds3/ Remember, this isn't quite final!
#2 Shei-Nad Jul 17, 2003 0:05:45	Originally posted by flip Everybody-in-my-english-class-hates-me Feedback Feedback on the document itself. Word spacings, random capital letters, grammer corrections and the like. I'm starting up a thread for this, where the first post will explain what format I want that in. hihihi... :D Nice work guys, by the way...
#3 zombiegleemax Jul 31, 2003 2:30:41	Play test: Spells Where is the 4th level spell Elemental Burst? Its not in the PHB or the Dark Sun Spells chapter.
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 05, 2003 12:39:47	Cerulean hail lists it as being a fury of storms 5 spell. The domain lists however show it as a cold malice 6 spell. General note, would there not be at least one domain that offers the fly spell to air clerics?
#5 jon_oracle_of_athas Aug 05, 2003 13:17:37	This thread is not a feedback thread in itself - it contains information on how to provide feedback in other threads. Failure to comply will be sanctioned with lightning bolts.
#6 zombiegleemax Aug 05, 2003 13:24:25	Sorry, I didn't see any other errata thread.
#7 jon_oracle_of_athas Aug 05, 2003 14:52:33	You might have to dig a little, but they're there. And if you can't find an appropriate one, just start a new one.
#8 player1 Aug 05, 2003 15:23:35	"Sticking" them on top could help. :D
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 15:00:06	pick pocket does no longer exist, it is now called 'slight of hand'. oops, and the bards conceal (i think thats what its called) ability would just add its bonus to slight of hand, because this ability replaces general dexterity checks.
#10 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 13, 2003 17:58:18	Again - This thread is not a feedback thread in itself - it contains information on how to provide feedback in other threads.
#11 dawnstealer Dec 09, 2003 13:26:33	So should we provide feedback on this thread? I'm confused. :invasion:
#12 nytcrawlr Feb 04, 2004 21:59:44	So what are we suppose to post on this thread again? I can't remember.
#13 Markus.l Apr 16, 2004 2:51:54	Hey Nathan, when will the "Full" [of pictures hopefully] PDF be available? I LOVE that Brom simple black line art that was done years ago...
#14 nytcrawlr Apr 16, 2004 22:48:01	Originally posted by Markus.l Hey Nathan, when will the "Full" [of pictures hopefully] PDF be available? I LOVE that Brom simple black line art that was done years ago... Once all the errata gets done and in there. A month or two maybe? Don't quote me on that though and be sure to take lots of salt.
#15 flip Apr 17, 2004 12:51:10	Nyte's the wrong person to ask on that. It'll be out after we've integrated the XPH stuff, and I get a chance to fix some other things. Plus, manipulating some of the artwork so it 1) looks good 2) doesn't destroy the file sizes is a bit of a task.
#16 Markus.l Apr 17, 2004 18:26:43	Originally posted by flip It'll be out after we've integrated the XPH stuff, and I get a chance to fix some other things. Plus, manipulating some of the artwork so it 1) looks good 2) doesn't destroy the file sizes is a bit of a task. Any estimated time frame you can give? May, June... [gulp]... July...?
#17 zombiegleemax Apr 26, 2004 21:18:33	Edit: I misunderstood the purpose of this thread ("This is not the feedback thread").
#18 zombiegleemax Jun 18, 2004 3:51:13	I sent several error and mistake reporting mail to [email]ds3-errata@athas.org[/email] the past days. Up to now i got no answer. Is that normal ?
#19 nytcrawlr Jun 18, 2004 20:22:20	Originally posted by PogS (FR) I sent several error and mistake reporting mail to [email]ds3-errata@athas.org[/email] the past days. Up to now i got no answer. Is that normal ? Yes, heh. We are busy beavers here lately. I'm sure your errata was looked at though.
#20 zombiegleemax Aug 30, 2004 22:05:24	(just kidding)
#21 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 30, 2004 7:50:02	Since this is the only Sticky thread we have, I'll post the link to the FAQ on athas.org here. Read the FAQ before you ask questions about athas.org, DS3 or anything that lies between. It's not just recommended, it is a good idea. http://www.athas.org/faq
#22 polipone Dec 21, 2004 10:46:29	You should leave the 3.5 conversion last, and upload the final 3.0 "official" conversion before starting converting to 3.5. This way the work will be usable even by those (like myself) who still stick to 3.0. (BTW, I already downloaded a pdf about Athas 3.0, but I suspect it wasn't final)
#23 zombiegleemax Dec 31, 2004 13:02:17	You should leave the 3.5 conversion last, and upload the final 3.0 "official" conversion before starting converting to 3.5. This way the work will be usable even by those (like myself) who still stick to 3.0. (BTW, I already downloaded a pdf about Athas 3.0, but I suspect it wasn't final) That and it's easier for those of us that are 3.5 to go 3.0->3.5 then 2.Whatver Version we have materail for -> 3.5
#24 zombiegleemax Dec 31, 2004 15:20:56	In the interest of getting things out with less time in between items for those of us who stay current, I like the fact that Athas.org releases in the most current versions. For those who play 3.0, you can update your materials without buying new core books by getting the update downloads form the wizards dnd site.