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Epic Destinies and Dark Sun

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#1
friendlyfish
Jun 19, 2010 1:26:32 So which Epic Destinies don't make any sense anymore in the context of Dark Sun? Some of the more popular are obviously out- Demigod, Chosen, Punisher of the Gods...Godslayer...Saint, Archangel, Avatar of Anything...anything to do with the divine power source or referencing the Gods in any way shape or form.

Albeit perhaps unintentionally, the removal of anything divine from the setting takes a big fat chunk of the available EDs out of contention. If your dude can't be a Demigod, what exactly are they going to be?

#2
mouthymerc
Jun 19, 2010 1:36:29 Sorcerer-King? Dragon?
#3
zylo_drizzt
Jun 19, 2010 2:03:05 Undying warrior! thats like my favorite epic destiny and who says that you couldnt ascend to godhood? maybe even being one of the last god fragments that ascends to the throne. later characters could draw thier power from you a little as in maybe only being able to divine multi classes next few ascendd you reintroduce hybrids and then finally full dieties except characters and probably taking on an element of athas or something. or maybe you reflavor those divine as primal and instead of specific dieties maybe you have specific spirits? Actually might start this if I ever get a player to go along with it. How many dieties would you put into your campaigns if starting from scratch? How many players would have to ascend into godhood before you allowed full divine power source back into the game? or how many years after ascention?
#4
Neutronium_Dragon
Jun 19, 2010 2:07:19 I could easily see Mourning Savior from Eberron being adapted... though it would mean a bit of a change to the post-campaign world!
#5
Lady_Auralla
Jun 19, 2010 6:44:13 For those of you who like to preserve, I have one word for you....AVANGION.
#6
beej_silver
Jun 19, 2010 11:19:45 Personally, I would encourage my players to pick a DS-themed Epic Destiny, which I hope will be suitably awesome. The prospect of each advanced being getting an ED equivalent already makes me think that there will be quite a number of them (greater elemental priests, avangions, and dragon-kings!), and most of the martial ones will be worked in easily, as well.

That being said, we can't really tell if they will actually be good, optimal choices until we see them. But personally, the original thing that drew me to DS was that there was a good chance of literally turning into a dragon if you achieve that level of power. (It was easier said than done, though. @_@) I've since grown a deeper love for the setting overall, but that remains as one of the draws for me.
#7
gangisconn
Jun 20, 2010 7:44:03 I wouldn't limit any Epic Destinies. I do love Dark Sun, and I enjoy the no Gods aspect of it. I would even encourage (or at least work with players) to make the Divine power source class off limits, but I like the idea of PCs breaking the mold; changing the world in big meaningful ways.

I think letting the PCs become demi Gods is a good thing. Let them tear the Grey that separates Athas from the rest of the planes, or let them become Gods at the conclusion of your campaign; the PCs become the future source of divine power.

It would take some re-flavoring at low epic becuase of the divine type epic destinies do focus on becoming the prime example of a particular god. Also there is the tricky part that some of the EDs require a divine PC background. As with many things careful thought would have to go into each individual case; worked out between PC and DM.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 friendlyfish Jun 19, 2010 1:26:32	So which Epic Destinies don't make any sense anymore in the context of Dark Sun? Some of the more popular are obviously out- Demigod, Chosen, Punisher of the Gods...Godslayer...Saint, Archangel, Avatar of Anything...anything to do with the divine power source or referencing the Gods in any way shape or form. Albeit perhaps unintentionally, the removal of anything divine from the setting takes a big fat chunk of the available EDs out of contention. If your dude can't be a Demigod, what exactly are they going to be?
#2 mouthymerc Jun 19, 2010 1:36:29	Sorcerer-King? Dragon?
#3 zylo_drizzt Jun 19, 2010 2:03:05	Undying warrior! thats like my favorite epic destiny and who says that you couldnt ascend to godhood? maybe even being one of the last god fragments that ascends to the throne. later characters could draw thier power from you a little as in maybe only being able to divine multi classes next few ascendd you reintroduce hybrids and then finally full dieties except characters and probably taking on an element of athas or something. or maybe you reflavor those divine as primal and instead of specific dieties maybe you have specific spirits? Actually might start this if I ever get a player to go along with it. How many dieties would you put into your campaigns if starting from scratch? How many players would have to ascend into godhood before you allowed full divine power source back into the game? or how many years after ascention?
#4 Neutronium_Dragon Jun 19, 2010 2:07:19	I could easily see Mourning Savior from Eberron being adapted... though it would mean a bit of a change to the post-campaign world!
#5 Lady_Auralla Jun 19, 2010 6:44:13	For those of you who like to preserve, I have one word for you....AVANGION.
#6 beej_silver Jun 19, 2010 11:19:45	Personally, I would encourage my players to pick a DS-themed Epic Destiny, which I hope will be suitably awesome. The prospect of each advanced being getting an ED equivalent already makes me think that there will be quite a number of them (greater elemental priests, avangions, and dragon-kings!), and most of the martial ones will be worked in easily, as well. That being said, we can't really tell if they will actually be good, optimal choices until we see them. But personally, the original thing that drew me to DS was that there was a good chance of literally turning into a dragon if you achieve that level of power. (It was easier said than done, though. @_@) I've since grown a deeper love for the setting overall, but that remains as one of the draws for me.
#7 gangisconn Jun 20, 2010 7:44:03	I wouldn't limit any Epic Destinies. I do love Dark Sun, and I enjoy the no Gods aspect of it. I would even encourage (or at least work with players) to make the Divine power source class off limits, but I like the idea of PCs breaking the mold; changing the world in big meaningful ways. I think letting the PCs become demi Gods is a good thing. Let them tear the Grey that separates Athas from the rest of the planes, or let them become Gods at the conclusion of your campaign; the PCs become the future source of divine power. It would take some re-flavoring at low epic becuase of the divine type epic destinies do focus on becoming the prime example of a particular god. Also there is the tricky part that some of the EDs require a divine PC background. As with many things careful thought would have to go into each individual case; worked out between PC and DM.