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[Future of Athas.org] We are all curious

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#1
Grummore
Jun 10, 2010 7:20:17 Many questions or curiosity hit my mind currently, here what they are :

1- I've been in the athas.org staff section. Many are written there, are they still active and up to something?

2- If yes, what are they working on and do they need help?

3- If no, have you think in updating the list and seek new blood to complete 3.5e project and start 4e project?

4- Did wotc contacted you or did you contacted them in regard to the athas.org status versus continuing 3.5e material and/or 4e material and the limits they would give you?

5- What's the state of completion of the actual projects and with the speed you have seen in the last years, how long do you think it could take to conclude these with the staff you currently have?

6- At this point, if you dont think project arent enough fast, did you thought finding new members to the staff? I suppose that at one point or another in your life, you probably are less interested in producing stuff and would be more than happy to let other peoples do the dirty work while you concentrate on the guiding them. What's your thoughts?

7- While speaking of fresh flesh, what type of help would you need? Do you need help to update the site (which is vvvveeerrrryyyyy slow on the update)? We don't doubt on the current organizer ability, just that like I said many time, if you want to have more peoples coming to your site, you have to have something to show them, even if it's only just small news to write on the front page.

As for myself, I am not a good example of all this, not having update my web site for a loooooooooooooong time now. I basically keeping it alive. I will have to whip myself this summer. Or maybe someone doesnt have the money to keep a site online and would like to have one? Maybe I should find someone to help me with that? I have the cash, but not much time. Should I seek someone?

I have begin to wonder about that myself, maybe the athas.org team should too. I mean finding new exited members!

I'm pretty sure many of us, old timer, are stuck in the 2ed, 3ed or 3.5ed and having yet done a single game in 4e (which is the case for me). In that case, we need new peoples that urge for more (in 4e)!

If we are stuck with only fluff (in 4e), this is great! Let's do fan submission and produce quality documents with the fan material!?

Do a contest?! athas.org have the visibility and the credibility to host that kind of event!

We must be proactive, not dormant!

Grummore the preacher and believer
#2
Duke5150
Jun 10, 2010 18:47:28
I'v got a question. Since wotc isn't going to deal with anything beyond the tablelands, will athas.org be handling fan made content on other areas? If so, might I request the deadlands to begin with, since the deadlands are always sidelined.

Thanks.

[edit] The moment I get my hands on 4e DS, I'll be dropping my eberron game for at least a year to focus soley on DS. So I'd be more than willing to share everything I work on when it comes to 4e DS.

I believe I own everything darksun in 2e and revised, except novels. (only have 6 of them) And I'v downloaded everything (I think) athas.org as released. So I can work on conversions, custom adventures and more. Which I will do anyways, but like I said, I'm willing to share.

Just give me a link to a place I can submit my material and let me know total file size allowed per submission. (I put things in pdf)
#3
Grummore
Jun 10, 2010 22:25:39 It depend on what athas.org will have the right to put on their own site not to infringe their wotc agreement. I am more than willing to spare space on my unlimited space disk to put everything you will produce.

My site is there, still have it's share of peoples coming for information but it's no longer what it once was...

And as I said, if somenone wish to take a part of the job to update my site or redo it with a new nice presentation I'd be more than happy to give space for these peoples.
#4
sinott
Jun 13, 2010 23:17:26 Grummore, I hate to admit, but you´re right.
I don´t really say that fresh blood would be the answer, but certainly some blood that doesn´t have kids, wife, job and still a post-graduation to finish. It sucks to grow old and busy.

Duke, if you´re willing to share, I would host the adventures you create. Of course, if you allowed me to translate them to portuguese.

I have some MB free on my website. There´s no limit on file allowed per submission, but files smaller than 10MB would be easier to download.
#5
Grummore
Jun 14, 2010 8:31:15 I think we still need answers from the concerned peoples.

Like I always have said, if you want things to shine, you have to rub them. If you dont rub them a bit, it will tarnish and fade.

What do you really want?
#6
phoenix_m
Jun 14, 2010 13:39:48
I think we still need answers from the concerned peoples.

Like I always have said, if you want things to shine, you have to rub them. If you dont rub them a bit, it will tarnish and fade.

What do you really want?

A Harem, duh... Oh and a little place called Nibenay to keep them safe in.

You guys want any help? I have time on my side.
#7
Grummore
Jun 15, 2010 7:48:47 Come on, I dont want to throw any rocks. We all know the huge job you made with maintaining alive Darksun. You did a incredible work with darksun 3.0 and 3.5.

I sure, like many other here, would like to know what's up with Athas.org.

Thanks.
#8
visanidethdm
Jun 15, 2010 7:59:39 Isn't it safe to assume that the people at Athas.org are waiting to see how much need there will be for the site to still exist. If Wizards does a proper coverage of Dark Sun, probably very little; if the site can step back in to be the "mainstream" homebrew material and discussion site (which could be likely, after these boards), then it's too early to tell.

Just have a few weeks of patience.
#9
Grummore
Jun 15, 2010 12:48:19 If it's too early, they can tell us it is.
#10
flip
Jun 17, 2010 9:30:28 At the moment, Grummore, I'm doing some behind-the-scenes work on the site, just trying to get it upgraded to the latest version of Rails (the framework in which the site is written) ...

Once that's done, there are a couple of areas I'm planning on tinkering in, but I've got to get the groundwork in place. And beyond tinkering, I've got to get the wiki back up. I'm still trying to find the database backups for that, but I'm almost afraid that it might have died in a hard drive crash a couple years back....

It's not going away, but I think that, as an organization, we'll have to scale back to smaller-sized bits, rather than the large -- and far between -- products we've done in the past.
#11
Pennarin
Jun 17, 2010 11:00:03 We could do something everybody would like and could chime in, like an adventure. Even if you don't like the subject matter or plot, one can find fun with the encounters, designing monsters, working out treasure, writting read-aloud text, plotting the plot, making art. It's an immersive piece of work. And the lower the level the better.
#12
Grummore
Jun 17, 2010 13:01:23 Thank you very much for the reply Flip. I'm glad you arent dead somewhere between the deadlands and the black...!

I understand very well that there is a need to get smaller because you will probably no longer have any right to produce official things.

ALTHOUGH, I think it more than important to let know the fans that you arent gone. You're the only one that appointed over here! There are many staff on the site list, where are they!?

Shouldnt we start to produce fan stuff with athas.org staff behind us to support us?
Could you get new blood to help you with the new 4th ed or to finish us some 3.5 stuff?

There are many questions in my starting post that we'd all be glad to have the answer!
#13
Pennarin
Jun 17, 2010 13:27:32
@Gru: Like it's been mentionned here or elsewhere, any fan design group our age aquires new life responsibilities (you are aware of those, having them), and frankly gets burnt out doing the same stuff for a long time. We do need new blood, but it may not have to be at Athas.org. Jon has stated Flip is the one to talk to about the site's continuing future.
#14
Grummore
Jun 17, 2010 14:26:27 I know but athas.org is currently the center of the universe for DS-Fans.

Everybody understand life struggling and I do myself since I just have the time to play my little game each week or each 2 weeks and that's the only hobby I have for the entire week.

THOUGH, athas.org site could have a new webmaster which Flip would give the key (and of course choose to pay the site and no longer flip) and a new troup of young blood supervised to start with and then you give them the wheel.

I dont know. But it's kinda dead and you dont gather crowd around a dead cow, but around a toreador bull!

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#1 Grummore Jun 10, 2010 7:20:17	Many questions or curiosity hit my mind currently, here what they are : 1- I've been in the athas.org staff section. Many are written there, are they still active and up to something? 2- If yes, what are they working on and do they need help? 3- If no, have you think in updating the list and seek new blood to complete 3.5e project and start 4e project? 4- Did wotc contacted you or did you contacted them in regard to the athas.org status versus continuing 3.5e material and/or 4e material and the limits they would give you? 5- What's the state of completion of the actual projects and with the speed you have seen in the last years, how long do you think it could take to conclude these with the staff you currently have? 6- At this point, if you dont think project arent enough fast, did you thought finding new members to the staff? I suppose that at one point or another in your life, you probably are less interested in producing stuff and would be more than happy to let other peoples do the dirty work while you concentrate on the guiding them. What's your thoughts? 7- While speaking of fresh flesh, what type of help would you need? Do you need help to update the site (which is vvvveeerrrryyyyy slow on the update)? We don't doubt on the current organizer ability, just that like I said many time, if you want to have more peoples coming to your site, you have to have something to show them, even if it's only just small news to write on the front page. As for myself, I am not a good example of all this, not having update my web site for a loooooooooooooong time now. I basically keeping it alive. I will have to whip myself this summer. Or maybe someone doesnt have the money to keep a site online and would like to have one? Maybe I should find someone to help me with that? I have the cash, but not much time. Should I seek someone? I have begin to wonder about that myself, maybe the athas.org team should too. I mean finding new exited members! I'm pretty sure many of us, old timer, are stuck in the 2ed, 3ed or 3.5ed and having yet done a single game in 4e (which is the case for me). In that case, we need new peoples that urge for more (in 4e)! If we are stuck with only fluff (in 4e), this is great! Let's do fan submission and produce quality documents with the fan material!? Do a contest?! athas.org have the visibility and the credibility to host that kind of event! We must be proactive, not dormant! Grummore the preacher and believer
#2 Duke5150 Jun 10, 2010 18:47:28	I'v got a question. Since wotc isn't going to deal with anything beyond the tablelands, will athas.org be handling fan made content on other areas? If so, might I request the deadlands to begin with, since the deadlands are always sidelined. Thanks. [edit] The moment I get my hands on 4e DS, I'll be dropping my eberron game for at least a year to focus soley on DS. So I'd be more than willing to share everything I work on when it comes to 4e DS. I believe I own everything darksun in 2e and revised, except novels. (only have 6 of them) And I'v downloaded everything (I think) athas.org as released. So I can work on conversions, custom adventures and more. Which I will do anyways, but like I said, I'm willing to share. Just give me a link to a place I can submit my material and let me know total file size allowed per submission. (I put things in pdf)
#3 Grummore Jun 10, 2010 22:25:39	It depend on what athas.org will have the right to put on their own site not to infringe their wotc agreement. I am more than willing to spare space on my unlimited space disk to put everything you will produce. My site is there, still have it's share of peoples coming for information but it's no longer what it once was... And as I said, if somenone wish to take a part of the job to update my site or redo it with a new nice presentation I'd be more than happy to give space for these peoples.
#4 sinott Jun 13, 2010 23:17:26	Grummore, I hate to admit, but you´re right. I don´t really say that fresh blood would be the answer, but certainly some blood that doesn´t have kids, wife, job and still a post-graduation to finish. It sucks to grow old and busy. Duke, if you´re willing to share, I would host the adventures you create. Of course, if you allowed me to translate them to portuguese. I have some MB free on my website. There´s no limit on file allowed per submission, but files smaller than 10MB would be easier to download.
#5 Grummore Jun 14, 2010 8:31:15	I think we still need answers from the concerned peoples. Like I always have said, if you want things to shine, you have to rub them. If you dont rub them a bit, it will tarnish and fade. What do you really want?
#6 phoenix_m Jun 14, 2010 13:39:48	I think we still need answers from the concerned peoples. Like I always have said, if you want things to shine, you have to rub them. If you dont rub them a bit, it will tarnish and fade. What do you really want? A Harem, duh... Oh and a little place called Nibenay to keep them safe in. You guys want any help? I have time on my side.
#7 Grummore Jun 15, 2010 7:48:47	Come on, I dont want to throw any rocks. We all know the huge job you made with maintaining alive Darksun. You did a incredible work with darksun 3.0 and 3.5. I sure, like many other here, would like to know what's up with Athas.org. Thanks.
#8 visanidethdm Jun 15, 2010 7:59:39	Isn't it safe to assume that the people at Athas.org are waiting to see how much need there will be for the site to still exist. If Wizards does a proper coverage of Dark Sun, probably very little; if the site can step back in to be the "mainstream" homebrew material and discussion site (which could be likely, after these boards), then it's too early to tell. Just have a few weeks of patience.
#9 Grummore Jun 15, 2010 12:48:19	If it's too early, they can tell us it is.
#10 flip Jun 17, 2010 9:30:28	At the moment, Grummore, I'm doing some behind-the-scenes work on the site, just trying to get it upgraded to the latest version of Rails (the framework in which the site is written) ... Once that's done, there are a couple of areas I'm planning on tinkering in, but I've got to get the groundwork in place. And beyond tinkering, I've got to get the wiki back up. I'm still trying to find the database backups for that, but I'm almost afraid that it might have died in a hard drive crash a couple years back.... It's not going away, but I think that, as an organization, we'll have to scale back to smaller-sized bits, rather than the large -- and far between -- products we've done in the past.
#11 Pennarin Jun 17, 2010 11:00:03	We could do something everybody would like and could chime in, like an adventure. Even if you don't like the subject matter or plot, one can find fun with the encounters, designing monsters, working out treasure, writting read-aloud text, plotting the plot, making art. It's an immersive piece of work. And the lower the level the better.
#12 Grummore Jun 17, 2010 13:01:23	Thank you very much for the reply Flip. I'm glad you arent dead somewhere between the deadlands and the black...! I understand very well that there is a need to get smaller because you will probably no longer have any right to produce official things. ALTHOUGH, I think it more than important to let know the fans that you arent gone. You're the only one that appointed over here! There are many staff on the site list, where are they!? Shouldnt we start to produce fan stuff with athas.org staff behind us to support us? Could you get new blood to help you with the new 4th ed or to finish us some 3.5 stuff? There are many questions in my starting post that we'd all be glad to have the answer!
#13 Pennarin Jun 17, 2010 13:27:32	@Gru: Like it's been mentionned here or elsewhere, any fan design group our age aquires new life responsibilities (you are aware of those, having them), and frankly gets burnt out doing the same stuff for a long time. We do need new blood, but it may not have to be at Athas.org. Jon has stated Flip is the one to talk to about the site's continuing future.
#14 Grummore Jun 17, 2010 14:26:27	I know but athas.org is currently the center of the universe for DS-Fans. Everybody understand life struggling and I do myself since I just have the time to play my little game each week or each 2 weeks and that's the only hobby I have for the entire week. THOUGH, athas.org site could have a new webmaster which Flip would give the key (and of course choose to pay the site and no longer flip) and a new troup of young blood supervised to start with and then you give them the wheel. I dont know. But it's kinda dead and you dont gather crowd around a dead cow, but around a toreador bull!