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#1 nimblesloth Mar 31, 2010 21:59:33	i can not for the life of me find a few peaces of simple info about the world of the Dark Sun setting. I never got to play it but I am very interested in the world. To be specific the things I can not find amongst the wealth of DS info (maybe because I am an idiot) are.. -The common names for the sun and moons of athas -Do the sun and moons follow the same path as the "real world"..i.e...does the sun rise in the east set in the west.....same moon phases but 2 of them? -How  tides and other lunar effects handled Any help would be great
#2 Pennarin Mar 31, 2010 22:24:55	Sun, Ral, Guthay Yes Maybe there is some obscure reference to silt and tides, maybe double tides when the moons are in conjunction, but I cannot recall if it is so. If so, then many estuaries and inland silt basins would overflow during high tide, flooding the streets of nearby towns (North and South Ledopolus), cities (Balic), and ruins (Giustenal, Bodach)*. * Every 11 years, Ral and Guthay meet in an eclipse. This is described in the Revised Boxed Set. I think Abbey in her novels also refers to that as a period when the underground spring waters beneath Urik overflow from the tide and inundate the city and surrounding farm lands.
#3 nimblesloth Apr 01, 2010 10:32:15	Thank you ever so much. I was having a hard time finding those..and If I ever dare to take my characters there they would be interested in those things.
#4 Grummore Apr 01, 2010 11:30:01	I know it exist a windows freeware that simulate the ral and guthay cycle and how they appear in the sky. I will have a look if I can find it in my old stuff.
#5 Silverblade_The_Enchanter Apr 02, 2010 19:28:04	Didn't some folk think that Ral or Guthay (dunno which is larger) is actually a gas giant and Athas orbits it?
#6 Tsuul Apr 03, 2010 13:07:06	Didn't some folk think that Ral or Guthay (dunno which is larger) is actually a gas giant and Athas orbits it? That idea floated around the DS mailing list as an alternative. To add a twist to the "Alien world has two moons" cliche. Also on the mailing list, I found where someone was creating the Moon Freeware that Grummore was talking about (or perhaps a similar project). "Merchant's Calendar" But I can't find a download anywhere on the web. It was fun poking around year 2000 web pages with their "1 meg" mail attatchment download limits and 16 color graphics for modem downloading.
#7 jimsmaher Apr 03, 2010 20:19:31	Didn't some folk think that Ral or Guthay (dunno which is larger) is actually a gas giant and Athas orbits it? That idea floated around the DS mailing list as an alternative. To add a twist to the "Alien world has two moons" cliche. Also on the mailing list, I found where someone was creating the Moon Freeware that Grummore was talking about (or perhaps a similar project). "Merchant's Calendar" But I can't find a download anywhere on the web. It was fun poking around year 2000 web pages with their "1 meg" mail attatchment download limits and 16 color graphics for modem downloading. In the year 2000 ... there was a movie called 'Pitch Black', so the gas-giant/moon alternative was also derivative in nature.  Unless the Society for Creative Anachronism are dressing as Thri-Kreen now,
#8 Grummore Apr 06, 2010 9:44:30	I know it exist a windows freeware that simulate the ral and guthay cycle and how they appear in the sky. I will have a look if I can find it in my old stuff.  Found it. Very interesting!
#9 nimblegrund Apr 07, 2010 2:22:33	I know it exist a windows freeware that simulate the ral and guthay cycle and how they appear in the sky. I will have a look if I can find it in my old stuff.  Found it. Very interesting! got a link for us?
#10 Grummore Apr 07, 2010 7:25:50	I will try to set you this up. Stay tune.
#11 nimblegrund Apr 08, 2010 19:42:13	I will try to set you this up. Stay tune. It would be appreciated. I did find a web application, that was posted by Ignatius over at the GiantITP forums, that could do one, but I wasn't happy with it.  Here's the link: www.eightcharacters.com.au/calendar/Merc... Here is the app that made it: www.eightcharacters.com.au/calendar/ Original GiantITP post: www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t... My problems with the calendar are: 1) Doesn't display seasonal information (Hoard through Sedulous are High Sun, Fortuary through Hexameron are Sun Descending, and Morrow through Anabasis are Sun Ascending. ) 2) Doesn't display astrological information, which would be nice, and 3) The Ivory Triangle seems to suggest that that the 1st of a month should always be a Oneday.  It is always a Oneday for the first three months, until one of the 5 day festivals messes all that up.  It would seem, in order to keep that up, you would have to lose a sixday every festival.  The calendar maker can't account for that.  But if you like the calendar that way, well, there it is.
#12 Pennarin Apr 08, 2010 20:51:43	The Merchant Calendar is a small-windowed application in which you can type a year and day and see the positions and phases of the moons for that day, and learn the Athasian name of the month and year for that date, and from there allows you to see forward or backward in time with a click. It also helps as an automatic converter of King's Ages years into Free Tyr years, so FY -104 would be the _ _ th year of the _ _ _ th King's Age.
#13 RyndarLocke Apr 12, 2010 12:47:54	Google "Darksun Shattered lands" and play it through dosbox.
#14 Grummore Apr 13, 2010 11:04:13	Here you go! You take out all 3 .zip in here : siltskimmer.org/_documents/
#15 nimblegrund Apr 14, 2010 1:10:10	sorry, grumm.  Your link isn't working for me.
#16 jimsmaher Apr 14, 2010 5:05:46	tell the hamster: 'Balrog sent me' ...  that's the code for most 404 prompts
#17 Grummore Apr 27, 2010 7:31:02	I dont know why, but there is some sort of %C2%A0 that appear at the end. Remove it. It should work. Sorry for the delay!
#18 DoctorBadWolf Apr 27, 2010 18:10:43	speaking of dark sun nostalgia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Sun_Online